
It's official! Microsoft, Xbox and Activision Blizzard have won their court case against the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, as the judge has denied the FTC's request for a preliminary injunction over Microsoft's attempted takeover of Activision Blizzard. Here's a sample from the 53-page document filed earlier today:
"After considering the parties' voluminous pre-and-post hearing writing submissions, and having held a five-day evidentiary hearing, the court DENIES the motion for preliminary injunction.
The FTC has not shown it is likely to succeed on its assertion the combined firm will probably pull Call of Duty from Sony PlayStation, or that its ownership of Activision content will substantially lessen competition in the video game library subscription and cloud gaming markets."
The FTC originally filed the request for an injunction (and a temporary restraining order) due to concerns that Microsoft and Activision Blizzard were trying to close their deal before the regulator could determine whether it "violates U.S. antitrust law". A date of August 2nd had previously been set by the FTC for an in-house evidentiary hearing.
Ultimately, today's decision paves the way for the takeover to go through in the United States, although keep in mind that the UK Competition and Markets Authority recently blocked the deal, so we're still not over the finish line yet.
Update: Microsoft and the CMA have agreed to pause legal proceedings following today's verdict.
Here's what Microsoft's Brad Smith had to say in a statement this afternoon:
"We're grateful to the Court in San Francisco for this quick and thorough decision and hope other jurisdisctions will continue working towards a timely resolution. As we've demonstrated consistently throughout this process, we are committed to working creatively and collaboratively to address regulatory concerns."
What are your thoughts? Tell us down in the comments section below.
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its done? thank god. i didn't care which way it goes, im just tired of hearing about it lol.
Holy snow balls.
It is about time.
"We are disappointed in this outcome given the clear threat this merger poses to open competition in cloud gaming, subscription services, and consoles" from a FTC spokesperson.
So at the end of the day, it WAS just about cloud gaming.
Now that chapter is closed. What all other arbitrary forums are holding this up? Is it just the CMA?
Hopefully means the CMA can be handled one way or another (ABK UK subsidiary until CAT tribunal or a deal with CMA) and this can finally close.
Then a) we can reap the Game Pass benefits and b) we can finally stop hearing about it!
EDIT: CMA may not be such an issue https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23791149/microsoft-activision-blizzard-uk-regulators-cma-appeal
So does this mean now that MS can buy Activision-Blizzard?
Huuuuuge news! That's it done and dusted at last!
Well done Xbox. They put forward a very decent case to the judge and the FTC were shown up for the uninformed organisation they were.
Thank God it's finally done! Have next to no interest in Act/Blizz games but just sick of hearing about it.
The article could probably do with adding what this actually means regarding the deal.
Finally happened. I think this is the correct decision. I wonder if FTC will bother with the appeal and whether xbox will work with the UK or around the UK.
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All I can say is wow, LETS GO!!
Xbox community stand up!!!!!
Ooh! Does this mean we could see some Tony Hawk games come to game pass?? Hahah!
@Kaloudz I hope @FraserG is ready for this comment section to go to hell when the Sony Pony trolls start popping up in here.
Xbros...we f***ing won
Finally! Now there’s an outside shot for a resurgence in IP like Tony Hawk, Spyro and more. Which is what I’m excited for! And gamepass benefits of course!
@abe_hikura We can't type that fast! That's why we use the "developing..." bit at the end of articles sometimes
Oh this is going to be fun 😈
YES FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
I've been holding off buying Crash Bandicoot for a long time waiting for this deal to be approved but now I finally get to play it on Game Pass, Hopefully soon as well.
If the CMA is still saying no though, are Microsoft still able to purchase ABK? CMA has to agree right.
Wow about time, the end is in sight! Now we just need the CMA to get a grip of itself, they are literally the only ones who are being awkward and it will say a lot more about them than ever before.
Just going to nip out and get myself a bag of popcorn for when Pushsquare put up an article about it 🍿 😁
Competition is alive.
I hope MS treats the Activision back catalog more respectfully than Activision currently does on its own. I’m looking forward to hopefully seeing things like Pitfall on Gamepass!
Judge Corley was amazing. Professional and unbiased the whole way. She alone was able to understand the gaming market better than the CMA.
Perfect timing i just signed up to gamepass for $1 and out of curiosity created a new account afterwords to see if I could create multiple gamepass profiles for each month to get gamepass for $1 and it actually worked. Somehow gamepass is shared with all accounts on the Xbox so I don't need to buy gamepass for my 200+k gs account.
I could be playing CoD and Diablo 4 for $1 in the future with this and that's awesome.
And so they should - the Argument was extremely weak and even if ABK games 'never' come to Playstation, its not as if Sony can't 'compete' with their OWN 'exclusives'. Not only that, there are literally hundreds of Studios making games, lots of Publishers too so Sony will still get AMAZING games as well.
It was NEVER going to monopolise gaming or impact on Sony, Nintendo, Steam, Epic, EA, Ubisoft, TenCent, Embracer etc etc etc competing for gamers money and their 'time' playing their games...
Currently, the UK is the 'only' blockers of this deal where over 40 other regions have agreed this deal poses NO threat to Competition and wouldn't give MS the monopoly or ability to 'control' gaming. They cleared it with regards to 'hardware' and stated clearly that the deal poses no threat to Sony, their concerns related to 'Cloud' - which they got completely wrong...
About time, and great news for all gamers I feel, there's a lot of salt over at EG, which I find odd.
It's good for ABK as they need help, re-shape and re-form.
Get it done so we can all move on!
Finally, excited for Gaz sauce video!!
@Wheatly FTC trial is August from what I recall - so whether they handle the UK and close ahead of the deadline, or extend it to after the CAT tribunal then close after winning that, it's almost certain now (short of a shock loss on an FTC appeal) that MS will close ABK before the FTC in-house trial.
The FTC can then decide it requires MS to divest of ABK - but MS will likely fight that in the federal courts right the way up to the Supreme Court so it could take a year or two, during which they may please the courts by not fully merging ABK in but keeping it running as a separate entity within MS (which is often their default anyway)
Never a doubt!
@Ep_13 The Sauce will be GLORIOUS.
@Ep_13 There's a lot of salt on IGN as well
@BAMozzy CMA will still say no and not agree so it makes no difference.
Finally, the end is in sight. Fingers crossed the CMA buckle on this, rather than the deal being closed around them.
I actually don't want it to be over !!! I don't mean the deal but the court case I actually enjoyed listening to it , quick get some other gaming company to sue another one lol
@Snake_V5 Nope. All that means will that MS and Activision-Blizzard couldn't do business in CMA territories.
@Tasuki I'm here don't worry 😇
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@Snake_V5
If the CMA is still saying no though, are Microsoft still able to purchase ABK? CMA has to agree right
You sound brokenhearted by this outcome mate, but don't be. These are huge corporations that don't give a damn about personal feelings😂.
I don't like where this could lead but then again, I haven't liked a lot about the modern game industry anyway. It is what it is, just happen this deal can finally go through and maybe some good can come out of it. Xbox Game Studios now owns the perfect non-Nintendo development team to bring back Banjo-Kazooie.
@Martsmall don't worry once the whole things settles down
In 2026-2027 they will be releasing a whole 2 hour movie about this deal
Okay. Now get double fine on kings quest and ID on hexen.
Not surprising given what was reported on about the FTC's arguments in the trial though the result is still disappointing.
It's been so wonderful playing Square Enix games on my Switch and it's so sad that's going to be taken away all because regulators allowed Microsoft to start an acquisition war. CoD on Nintendo hardware is a terrible consolation prize.
@FraserG "collar gif"
Fair enough
@Tasuki No offence but you are baiting for Sony fans to respond (me including). BTW, I do remember you visiting Push square fairly often. What happened? Is it the Gordon Ramsey look a like?
OT: Thank god it’s over! Hopefully this has levelled the playing field and both Sony and Microsoft stop taking over companies.
@Kaloudz Genuine question - Why do you care so much? You already have access to every ABK game so this gains you absolutely nothing. All it does is monopolise a huge segment of the gaming industry so unless you are a shareholder this is literally nothing to celebrate. And I'm a Nintendo fanboy btw so I have no horse in this race.
It would not suprise me if after this, the FTC dropped their trial in August, as no matter what, they need a federal judge to side with them.
The FTC does not have the power to block or divest, a federal court does.
It's a really bad day for the FTC, especially as they failed on every one of their points. It's also a really bad day for the CMA, who now have no support from any regulator or judge around the world
Us judge cleared it before Sony signed any 10 year deal. Does this mean Microsoft can move forward without promising Sony anything? Cause nothing would make me happier than if Microsoft makes the next call of duty exclusive to punish Sony for the ***** they pulled here.
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Still doesn’t really tell us what will happen in the UK? I seriously doubt like some claim, that Microsoft will simply dump and leave the UK market. But also no idea what will happen, if we will ever get ABK games on Game Pass in the UK. Still a long way to go yet as far as I’m concerned. But at least the deal will close now.
@Snake_V5
CMA will still say no and not agree so it makes no difference
It actually does, it means the CMA will ensure Xbox customers with GamePass will get a worse deal here in UK than anywhere else and that's bull sh"t
@Lucylu1983 you just know netflix are thinking about the film rights right now lol
@Snake_V5 xbox and the CMA have both asked the CAT appeal of the CMA block to pause litigation after hearing the FTC ruling. It appears a deal with CMA is on the horizon.
It's done. I hope it means a more competitive environment for every company in this industry. Now, Xbox have a good leverage for avoid shady exclusivity contracts.
@Wheatly Looks like CMA about to back down:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23791149/microsoft-activision-blizzard-uk-regulators-cma-appeal
@Tasuki Sorry did not know that. Liked your contributions and hope you will return someday. Maybe after Herman Hulst (also a douchebag) and Jimbo leave 😂
@Sol4ris Not at all, I'm just telling you it makes no difference.
@Snake_V5 As @Somebody mentioned, CMA already looking like they're backing down:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23791149/microsoft-activision-blizzard-uk-regulators-cma-appeal
So despite your desire in every post to see this blocked, it doesn't look like it will be - if it's just pessimism to avoid getting hopes up then my apologies
For all those saying they got to get past the cma first etc ,they already trying to make a deal
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/11/23791149/microsoft-activision-blizzard-uk-regulators-cma-appeal
Well, I'm not exactly overjoyed by the news, but I couldn't honestly see why this deal wouldn't get backed outside of the teenager, fan boy, vitriol.
Looks like the CMA are backing down already and have asked for a stay of litigation to try and settle this without the CAT.
"In a further development today, Microsoft president Brad Smith has said the FTC's decision has prompted it and the CMA to agree that a "stay of litigation" is now "in the public interest" - sparking further hope for Microsoft of a breakthrough on these shores.
"After today's court decision in the US, our focus now turns back to the UK," Smith said today in a statement shared to Eurogamer. "While we ultimately disagree with the CMA's concerns, we are considering how the transaction might be modified in order to address those concerns in a way that is acceptable to the CMA.
In order to prioritise work on these proposals, Microsoft and Activision have agreed with the CMA that a stay of the litigation in the UK would be in the public interest and the parties have made a joint submission to the Competition Appeal Tribunal to this effect."
CMA are going to agree to remedies and it will be a big win for the UK regulator. This is what the FTC should have done the whole time but unfortunately ideology got in the way
Hell effin yes!
@somnambulance you made me snort my coffee - pitfall 😂
@Kaloudz They could have put the ABK games on game pass without having to buy the company though. Wouldn't have cost them $69 billion either. I just don't understand why people are celebrating like their football team just won the league just because they now have a slightly different way of paying for how they consume their games.
@Martsmall That is the most excellent news! Let’s hope Microsoft can adapt its deal and concessions to please the CMA to approve the deal.
Well to be fair when her sons job is on the line here she had to side with them.
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Now dust off the Vivendi Games, Sierra Entertainment, Vicarious Visions, Neversoft catalogues, we don't care about call of duty trying to be fartnite with stupid super heroes.
Now Sony can buy Square and 2K (if Microsoft doesn’t beat them to it) … watch this space
@Kaloudz You mean 50 Call of Duty games you can already pick up for £1.99 from CeX? Yeah great. Anyway I guess this finally means the end of Bobby Kotick so good riddance to that creep at least.
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@Gollum Yes Vacarious Visions did a great job with the Pro Skater 1 & 2 remake... would love to see that on Game Pass.
The CMA now have the perfect justification to back down. There were accusations that they and the FTC had colluded on blocking this deal IIRC. They just didn’t bargain on the FTC making such a dreadful job of the PI hearing.
Now it would be easy for them to back down saying that the situation has changed and U.K. consumers stand to lose out.
The FTC 4 the Playe… PlayStation 😂
Glad they lost, their whole argument was protecting Sony with little regard for the actual consumer. It was fascinating to see and follow.
Activision Blizzard are the sh*ts I’m not a fan of them but I’m glad this whole saga is closer to being over. Now let’s see if Sony buy SE and we get to see the double standard of that community.
Diablo is coming to gamepass!!!! Except for those currently under the CMAs protection? Clearly they gotta do a settlement as MS was already signaling they would close around them. World knows the UK is an island.... don't need to highlight it in this merger.
@Nickhyazaki
Given that a couple of Xbox execs swore under oath that they wouldn’t take COD off Playstation they’d be very foolish to attempt to go back on that.
@Moonglow ABK said this PRIOR to them being owned by Microsoft. Microsoft can do what they feel is best going forward. We don't know what that is, but it's their decision, not ABK.
The status of Lina Khan is currently: Big Mad.
Come on gamepass COD this year!
@AlwaysPlaying No joke, I’ve been wanting to try the game again for like 25 years, but in, y’know, a legal way. I would really like an Activision moldy oldies compilation like Rare Replay. I trust in Xbox to get us this!
@WallyWest
Well to be fair when her sons job is on the line here she had to side with them
Yeah mate that's priceless, but why not go full circle and post about that dude who is with the CMA and used to/or working(?) for Sony😁? Never mind all this will be yesterday news once Sony aquire Squeenix....
@RetroMan71 Yeah man, I'm hoping they bring Scarface, GUN, and Simpsons Hit & Run for example but I think they have their eyes on the live service type of games only to be honest because the current Activision Blizzard catalogue is just that really along with Microsoft's games at the moment excluding hi-fi rush, I dislike them all but I do enjoy a bit of Minecraft with the family.
@Grumblevolcano I honestly wouldn't worry too much about the possibility. Square might be prone to dumb decisions, but they have to know how much they would lose by cutting ties with Nintendo. Besides, considering how much of a kerfuffle this whole deal has been, any future buyout attempts by any company will go through a lot of scrutiny, to say the least.
This is the best the greatest day in history for video games..
@Gollum
While they are at it maybe they can also revive Soldier of Fortune and the Interstate series. I loved Interstate 76 back in 1997 ha! I wonder how many guys here even heard of it, let alone played it.
@Kaloudz plus all the secret new IP’s Blizzard was unable to talk about until it closes …. 2-3 rumored
@gollumb82 Great shout i emulated SOF not so long ago but not many, they will think they are crap, most people only play COD, FIFA, Fortnite these days.
This is a seismic shift in the gaming industry. I didn't really care about Call of Duty, but MS owning Blizzard to me is huge!
@Sol4ris Conflict of interest is a thing, the fact she was the judge should not have been allowed. Of course this is the US they favour corps and corruption.
As for Sony buying SE i bloody hope not.
@Gollum
True that, sadly. One can dream, though. I'd like to think Phil has already browsed through their entire catalogue and highlighted at least some legacy games and IPs in their portfolio that could and should make a comeback. I believe he even made a statement on it a while ago.
@Gamer83 I dont like where it could lead either. I always expected this to go through and grew tired of the drama owning both anyway but I just hope it doesnt become the start of industry consolidation.
MS wont stop at ABK and Sony wont stop at Bungie either.
@Kaloudz I personally think as I've said before that the CMA has valid concerns. But I also think MS can come up with a solution to appease the concerns they had. Fingers crossed that's what happens and is folks in Blighty can get the same treatment as everyone outside the CMA jurisdiction.
@gollumb82 Yeah I remember that, hopefully it is the case man I would love that.
@Moonglow yup. It's over. It's all over next week.
Thank god for this.
Maybe gamers will get a chance to talk and enjoy games again instead of sniping at one another for the sake of tribalism. I really hope so....
Maybe I'll get to play diablo 4 if its on GP and I don't directly contribute towards it? Its tempting...
@WallyWest @WallyWest
Conflict of interest is a thing, the fact she was the judge should not have been allowed
I'm quite sure the FTC would have objected to her appointment if they thought it was necessary, they clearly didn't.
Of course this is the US they favour corps and corruption
After living through the whole Brexit shenanigans and a Boris Johnson led Tory government, I can say with utter confidence from my perspective, we are not in a position to preach about coruption to anyone just yet.
@Jaxx420
Yup, and Sony has to respond now. There will be those who say 'consolidation happens, it isn't a big deal.' I vehemently disagree. We'll see where things go. Hopefully it's concern over nothing...
Common sense prevailed just as I expected.
Exactly that. Hopefully, it will be considered illegal to pay third parties to hurt the competition as it is in the rest of the markets (markets in general).
Can we finally move on and all get back to gaming! Little will change. Onwards!
@Ooccoo_Jr as a Nintendo fan you should be glad MS will own Activision since they are to bring cod to Nintendo, no?
@FraserG What about a list of IPs that ABK own and polls about what IPs do we want to see the most? Now is the time. The acquisition is going through because the unfounded and contradictory concerns about cloud gaming voiced by the CMA are meaningless. 😊
Now Spyro and Crash can keep Banjo and Conker cozy in the wet, dark gaol, because this is where MS will keep 90s platform mascots.
@RareFan I want to disagree with this as a massive Crash fan but I cant lol. This buyout is all about the money makers and mobile. I do hope they will continue with some of the more fun IPs but it is a worry.
@Utena-mobile Regulators in the UK and US wanted to block the deal for different reasons, none of which were valid. Sony's complaints gave them some traction to raise concerns. The backup was a nonexistent cloud market that largely hinges on MS being interested in such a thing for it to every materialize in the first place.
Through ignorance and hollow, disingenuous arguments, the regulators were able to stall the acquisition to this point. There never should have been this much clamour about it.
@Kaloudz @Banjo It's something we'll look into tomorrow The news dropped late in the UK afternoon, immediately prior to an ID@Xbox Showcase, so we've definitely got our hands full today!
@Kaloudz Absolutely! I can see many studios doing things with those IPs and the games that they want to make and not just supporting Call of Duty development as they have been doing lately. I trust Microsoft when they say that they want a varied game library for all kind of players because that makes Game Pass more appealing.
@Utena-mobile Dude — that is exactly what I have been envisioning the end of this. When the news hit a few hours ago, I almost posted, "Alright! Party in the Ewok village!"
@Kaloudz 🤣😂🤣🤣 I shall read and follow what the CMA do and how they do exactly as you said, as a fellow Brit I know they'll do just that! They'll word it as a win for them 🤣
@Snake_V5
Well... it seems the CMA changed their mind, so it made a difference.
I've said from the beginning this was all grandstanding. The fact the CMA is now "willing" to pause litigation is a signal they would rather negotiate concessions vs having MS win on appeal with zero concessions.
It's "curious" to also see the FTC do nothing about Sony's anticompetitive behavior brought to light during the hearing....
It is all over for the CMA now, they're doomed and looking like an utter clown organization.
Honestly I'm not really that surprised by this at all, it feels more like a formality. FTC had a terrible case, a terrible argument, and the judge was sounding pretty frustrated with their entire line of reasoning, but I still wouldn't have put money down on it because this whole thing has been wildcards. Glad to see the Judge was pretty transparent in her tone from the start with the way her reasoning went, and glad this is over for the US. Now it's down to CMA which is now in pause on the proceedings, so it sounds like things are pretty much wrapping up kind of on schedule.
It's kind of sad. Now that we're in the era where we choose between games with 15 hours of senescences or 32 hours of cutscenes, this was really the best Ace Attorney game to date. Capcom made a great choice outsourcing this one to Activision. It's one of those games that when the story's done it feels like life has no meaning anymore. I guess except for playing Call of Duty for free, but that's really just saying the same thing.
@Snake_V5 No, in the US this means the merger goes ahead without the courts preventing it. The FTC can continue to challenge it with a trial at a later date but the argument has to be based on separating a partially joined company rather than just preventing it from happening which is much, much harder. With negotiations now being revisited in UK, it's unlikely a workable agreement won't be met there either. It's really just Kahn's lone crusade to save face for the party at this point. No matter where one stands on Jim or Microsoft, one universal truth is Kahn is the worst of the bunch. Neither an anti-competitive pseudo monopoly nor an excessively rich company failing in the entertainment market buying market share, just a partisan apparatchik with an axe to grind and an origin story to build before throwing her hat into an election ring.
Holy crap! Game Pass love dropping in 5-4-3.... Now let's go read some Push Square boards.
@Kaloudz Once all the games from Activision hit Game Pass it’s just going to make the recent price hike of GPU slightly more justified, I would of kept paying it each month regardless of whether the merger went through or not but seeing as it most likely is now, the value of GPU will just be much more astronomical.
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@Kaloudz The only Cinder I know is a character from Killer Instinct 😂. Even if Bobby doesn't like Game Pass because Call of Duty doesn't need it, he won't be able to decide anything about Xbox games. I wonder if he will be dismissed because the employees don't seem happy with him.
Like i said from the off the deal will happen lets GO !! Adults with brains at last.
@Moby I would say is it something to do with having two cases running at the same time? But didn't the EU open some investigation into Sony based in the evidence given?
Good news. But what happens next?
Apparently according to a certain User over at EG I'm not welcome at PX? Never read so much horse plop in a while.
Pleased the deal has gone through. The amount of Salt in certain places is crazy.
Let's hope we can all move on now!
@S1ayeR74 The EU agency approved the deal. The CMA is the UK agency that is currently under appeal. The CMA was ridiculously biased during the first review that no one is surprised they have done nothing to Sony. They all but threw a tantrum over fears MS could make CoD an exclusive, even though Sony was busted admitting it wasn't really anticompetitive.
@Solidchief yep people can't accept positive XBOX and gaming news. Very odd. EG and the Toxic regulars are kicking off. Thankfully mod team is already removing some of the crap they post.
@Ep_13 EG went to the dogs years ago mate. I do frequent it for Digital Foundry as that team do some interesting stuff but other than that its a fanboyfest.
@Moonglow it is positive for Xbox owners worry is what its going to spark now. An acquisition arms race does the industry no good.
Hard to distinguish between the Sony defenders and those genuinely concerned though. That "other place" certainly has a fair few of the former.
@Banjo- I give it days, weeks at most after it closes before Bobby goes. He should have been shafted years ago.
Just a shame he will go with a big fat pay packet.
CMA Agreement is in place apparently. "Microsoft and CMA have agreed on a small divestiture to address the regulators concerns. Any divestiture would be related to cloud gaming in the UK." CNBC David Faber
@Moonglow PC Market is bigger but industry consolidation impacts that market the least as save for Nintendo, the others release their games on PC at various points anyway. It impacts the console market the most.
We are far away from it on paper but I expect it to accelerate over the next 2-3 years now. Reality is Xbox is a fraction of Microsofts overall profit base. Playstation is a vast majority of Sonys so they will react now and then Microsoft will react again in kind, it will speed up.
What happens after that remains to be seen. Competition creates quality so as long as the quality isnt impacted, things will probably be okay. But no one knows if that will end up being the case.
@Moonglow ABK are bigger than EA for revenue albeit marginally. MS and ABK together? Different beast.
It could go the way of TV streaming and there will remain room for many big players. Time will tell. The industry is big enough just depends how aggressive all the major companies will now get in buying others up.
If the gaming news sites and YouTube channels play their cards right, they can get 3 or 4 posts on every xbox release's will they/won't they be exclusive discussion for the rest of our lives.
Well we need a Winners/Loser list 🤟
@rustyduck yep. Today is a momentous day, for today we are one step closer to not having to hear and/or read the words "Microsoft", "Activision Blizzard" or the name of some regulatory body or other in the same sentence ever again.
@CutchuSlow MS and the CMA have apparently agreed to a small divesture relating to cloud in the UK. The deal will probably close on Monday. FTC can try to appeal, but there simply isn't enough time for them to get any sort of judge to do the work for them to stop anything. FTC can try to fight MS in the administrative court to force a divesture, but considering how badly MS just humiliated them, that probably wouldn't go their way either. Some of us have been saying from the start that it basically takes an act of God to stop a vertical merger, and this basically proves that.
@Utena-mobile maybe it as a bit anti climatic but we got a nice court case with some dirty laundry to digest. I love legal battles like this XD
Also, love the sharpie redacted material hehehe ^^ although my fellow Americans play too much COD.
@Grumblevolcano sony’s business practices started this its just that Microsoft came along with a bigger chequebook thats all
@Nickhyazaki no they said at court that they won’t go exclusive but maybe in a few years after this dies down they’ll stop CoD on PS.
@DaddyDuder Exactly. It was all fun and games when Sony could out-spend and eliminate Sega, but now it's suddenly a bad thing for anyone to compete with them.
@Snake_V5 Really??
MS were happy and willing to take the CMA to court, just like they were prepared to go to court to get this deal done with the FTC. The fact that the Judge has ruled that the FTC cannot 'prevent' the deal from closing, having not proved any 'Harm' or Anti-competitive reasons to 'block' has massive impact on the CMA's argument and likelihood of winning their argument in 'court' - Hence they have 'pulled out' of court to 'negotiate' a settlement - a way this deal moves forward in the UK without issue.
The deal isn't 'closed' yet - the FTC can 'appeal' but would need 'new' evidence to stand a chance of winning that appeal. The Judge basically said the FTC had no proof this would harm any relevant market and actually benefits all those markets. Basically said the FTC would lose any case and therefore not expected to appeal. That ruling carries a LOT of weight and the CMA will realise they'll 'lose' in a UK court too so best 'resolve' outside of court to save 'face' and not look as bad as the FTC do right now...
@Moby The CMA did not really have COD as its reason for blocking, also they had a valid point over monopoly concerns of cloud gaming, the EU commission themselves stated the exact same concerns, but believed that the concessions made by Microsoft would alleviate those concerns. The CMA isn’t equipped, apparently, to manage those same concessions the EU had implemented. So I await to see how they do equip themselves for a workaround to be implemented. You need to remember, without the concessions made both the EU and UK commissions had concerns over Microsoft creating a monopoly in cloud gaming. The FTC also believed this but decided to push the COD angle mainly,
So whilst people were quick to slag off these regulators as stupid, all three of the biggest markets for Xbox believed Microsoft could create a monopoly in cloud gaming, so concessions had to be made to ensure that doesn’t happen, in fact the EU came up with their idea and told Microsoft take it or leave it I think, MS took it and expanded it beyond the required remit.
Hopefully we can get some of the mid-era Tony Hawk, Crash and Spyro games added to backwards compatibility and Gamepass. E.g. American Wasteland, Legend of Spyro, Crash Twinsanity etc.
With the acquisition there are probably a few licensing issues that just got cleared up in a positive way! (Hexen too right?). This will help bolster that “13% of classic games pre-2010 are preserved” (IGN, Time Extension) by at least a handful of games.
Sony will try to buy Square now, and the FTC needs to try to block it for the same reason they blocked Microsoft. Unlike with Microsoft, judge would have no reason to block FTC there, since Sony has proved in the past they will keep games off XBOX
@Kaloudz
😀 I’m British as well and you’re totally right. As soon as this verdict was handed down you knew the CMA would be looking for a way out. They know their arguments have been ruined by the EU and Japan approving and then the FTC getting shot down. They can now make the case that ‘the situation has changed, for us to block it alone would damage U.K. consumers so reluctantly we will remove our objection (they won’t say approve) as long as MS proposed remedies are signed.’
@S1ayeR74
Agreed. The Cloud market is the one where there are legitimate concerns, and only the CMA and EU tried to fix that. The FTC went all in on ‘well Sony said it would be bad’ and scored a massive own goal.
@Jaxx420 I'm a fan of Xbox!
PS5 & Series S Owner
Looking forward to savings $100s of dollars by getting Call Of Duty, Crash and whatever else comes to gamepass Day 1.
Not loyal to either brand. I just want to play games.
@Sifi I hope that it cost them a fortune. Objectively, I think that Sony knew that what they were claiming didn't make any sense because they are paying for Xbox exclusion contracts with third parties and have first-party exclusives on top of that, as the intelligent judge realised immediately. Sony wanted to hide those documents with excuses such as that they couldn't find them or are in Japanese and when the judge asked them if they would make Call of Duty a Playstation exclusive, they didn't answer. Nobody but Sony should pay for all this.
@NEStalgia ‘It's kind of sad. Now that we're in the era where we choose between games with 15 hours of senescences or 32 hours of cutscenes’
Or both in FF16’s case 😂
@Ep_13 Why do you care what anyone over at EG or anywhere else says? My advice, don’t.
@Ep_13 you're always welcome here. Anyone and everyone is welcome on this site 👍
@pip_muzz thanks dude good to know
@Kaloudz I hope that you are right and this is over next week. I can't see Microsoft waiting for the CMA to start and finish a new merger investigation. Microsoft has won worldwide so there must be something that we don't know. Maybe Microsoft will send that acquisition modification but they already know what to do if the CMA still refuses to make sense. I wonder what Microsoft will do to deal with them before more time is wasted because of the CMA's nonsense.
Just reading that the FTC are definitely going to appeal.
Great news indeed. Not unexpected but a long time coming. This will definitely make Xbox more competitive and level the playing field a bit in the console space. Now get to adding ABK’s games to Game Pass. I expect the deal to be finalized before the weekend.
As to all the people worried about a consolidation war that rages out of control., I just don’t see it. Any additional big acquisitions by MS at this point will just be scrutinized that much more and this one alone took a lot of time and work to get through the finish line.
And those thinking because MS just made a couple big acquisitions opens the door for Sony to make some, not necessarily. They could probably get away with Square, but they are still the dominant market leader and any big acquisitions of publishers is going to be extremely hard for Sony to get passed. Many of the arguments the FTC was trying to make against the ABK acquisition would actually become true for a big Sony acquisition. This ruling does not just open the door to any acquisition by any game company. Sony in particular is not in a good position to be adding huge publishers being the dominant market leader. I expect Sony to make some smaller acquisitions or maybe Square and things will cool off for awhile.
@Sanquine I doubt I will return, I am mostly on NL and here on PX nowadays.
@S1ayeR74 MS proved their cloud market share right now is primarily existing console users, which negates even the impression that MS could take over the cloud market with a monopoly.The CMA has known this since before the original denial. That is the flimsy excuse they are using even after it's obvious there are currently no real concerns of MS having a monopoly or being able to unduly influence the cloud market.
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