Hopefully this won't pester you to spend money on microtransactions as a way of not forcing you to grind for hours, in a game that shouldn't have ridiculous amounts of grinding due to the fact its not a sodding RPG!
The fact they have gone all out with the tech speaks volumes. This gen was very weak power wise, with even PS4 Pro and Xbox One X hamstrung by their inadequate CPUs.
I think the combination of seriously powerful hardware, and SSD with load times pretty much eliminated, means we are going to be playing some amazing looking games. And that's what it all comes down to in the end, I can't wait to see what is coming.
I'm confident Phil Spencer has put in place a system that will be great. It really does feel like the Microsoft of 2005 is back, however, we need to see games. Microsoft has rested on Halo, Forza and Gears for far too long, and while the fact they went around bringing companies like Ninja Theory and Obsidian into Xbox game studios, I am optimistic that there will be amazing games coming down the line. Ninja Theory especially, people don't realise what an amazing developer they are
Well like he said if it's in the supply chain someone will leak it. We know it's real for starters, even tho Microsoft haven't even announced anything.
It remains to be seen how this will play out. There's still the feeling that it could potentially hold Series X back. We shall see
@gingataisen I hear you. Sick of these 'remasters'. Fortunately smart delivery should put an end to that, and further expose scummy companies like EA (who you can bet will try and weasel their way out of it), as someone who doesn't care about games.
Yes to next gen games. No to current gen 'remasters'. Tho you can probably bet when the consoles do come out certain sites will be full of people going "plz port xxxx in 60fps!!!!!!"
@BlueOcean I never said you were claiming that, I said you were hinting as such by the way you said it.
Those consoles did not shift the numbers they did due to piracy. The Dreamcast didn't even have to be modded, it ran burnt cds and yet still never got noticed.
And yes Gran Turismo sold 10 million and GTA 17 million. So what? Most games don't even hit double digit sales. The software sales for those two consoles were a million miles from what companies got on the other consoles. What's your point?
@BlueOcean but what you posted was factually incorrect. Your original post basically insinuated that the only reason PSOne and PS2 dominated was due to them being easy to pirate games for. And you asked if the two consoles had better libraries, and I answered that they did. I don't see how the original Xbox had a better library than PS2. It had a weaker library than GameCube for starters, at least that console had Nintendo making games for it. Sony didn't get 'lucky'. Not by a long shot.
@BlueOcean yes actually, the PS2 DID have a much better library than GameCube and Xbox. There were times when I was starved for games on GameCube yet with PS2 I was subjected to a barrage of great games. The PS2 is considered a classic for a reason, and it did not sell 150 million due to the fact it played DVD. The PSOne was a perfect storm with amazing exclusives such as Gran Turismo to Silent Hill, whereas the Saturn never got many 3rd party games despite using CDs, and Nintendo just plodded along thinking they would be alright in the end.
And as for the PS4, I already said Sony finished the gen stronger than Microsoft. They'd closed one hell of a gap, and fired out games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo 6, to name a few, whereas Microsoft relied on Kinect towards the end of the 360, and seemingly rested on Gears, Forza, and Halo (a fact that Phil Spencer has attempted to rectify), before Mattrick went off on his crazy talk of stick with 360, and Kinect privacy issues.
I'm kinda amazed at the fact some people think Sony only dominated because they 'got lucky'. Right. Because the fact the PSOne had an endless supply of great games that the other two didn't have, and the same with the PS2, didn't play into it at all.
The PS4 was Sony firing on all cylinders. Microsofts self implosion (Don Mattrick telling people without Internet to buy a 360 has to be one of the worst comments the games industry has ever witnessed) certainly helped, as did privacy issues around Kinect (Edward Snowdon blowing the whistle on what the US government was doing came at a really bad time for Microsoft with its always watching, always listening Kinect), but Sony certainly finished the generation in a stronger position. They'd broadened their games library (something Spencer has tried to address), and carried on supporting the PS3 up until the end with Gran Turismo 6. Whereas Microsoft had, for some reason, descended into a farce with Kinect games, some daft e3s that focused on casuals (remember Usher?), and a ceo that seemed to be losing the plot (and he did!).
You can see the difference with Spencer. He is a gamer, as well as a ceo. Mattrick was a former EA exec.
@BlueOcean yes you and me might think it's straightforward, we're gamers. I'm just talking broadly where it can be confusing for the masses, because they get confused quite easily. I'm not saying that the naming WILL be a Nintendo style mistake, just that it has the potential to be a problem.
@sixrings it's usually not a good idea to just abandon the current console when you release another one. Usually it's positioned as a considerably cheaper alternative.
The Series X has a power advantage, but what will that advantage be in practice? Will it be like the PS4/One, where it was quite clear, or will it be like PS3/360 where it was only clear in Sonys games.
Probably Sony did get caught off guard. But then Microsoft were quite clearly hell bent on, after having the weaker console two generations in a row, having the console with the superior spec. However, I think we all know Sonys games will look amazing like they always have done. And we still have heard very little from Sony. This is a company that has squashed the competition flat in three out of four generations, and managed to turn the PS3 round from its disaster of a launch to actually finishing the generation in second place, so you'd have to be naive to underestimate them, and I doubt Microsoft are making that mistake. I do get the feeling they are being evasive for a reason, only for them to come out with a drop the mic moment. But as of right now, Microsoft are getting the positive limelight
@gingataisen I don't think Microsoft have announced they are phasing them out. They might have slashed the price of the X but I wouldn't say that's phasing it out. Since series x games work on Xbox One I guess they won't be phasing it out straight away
@gingataisen that's true but now we have Xbox One S Xbox One X Xbox Series X Potentially Xbox Series S
General rule of thumb would be to assume society is thick, because it is, and they need to be told what to buy. It might not happen where people get confused but the possibility is there. Even with the Wii U people thought it was a new controller for the Wii, not an actual new console
Will be interesting if this launches at a price that surprises everyone. There is the slight worry that it could hold series x back. That remains to be seen, and hopefully it won't, but time will tell.
If Sony releases PS5 and nothing like lockhart it could be a coup for Microsoft. Of course, if they call it series s they could back themselves into a corner where people get confused over the naming like people did with 3DS/Wii U
@Incarna remember you can't spell ignorant without ign.
I'm really looking forward to this coming out, unless they really blow it (unlikely) its pretty much guaranteed to be a great game. How great tho remains to be seen.
The proof will be in the pudding. They can hype it as much as they want, and it's quite exciting to hear going into next gen, but we'll have to see how it turns out in practice.
Would anyone be surprised at this? They are gearing up for project xcloud. And companies are removing their games from this.
You could argue its wrong (and I don't see a problem with people streaming games they have already bought elsewhere), but you can't deny its naive of nvidia to just believe that companies would simply be okay with this and just keep their games on out of the goodness of their hearts.
Well they have to start showing games soon. Tho I really believe neither will release this year, I don't even think there will be a massive appetite for a £400-£500 console this year, going on the fact unemployment is skyrocketing and economies are tanking
He deserves a £60 fine for breaking the lockdown, but I have no sympathy for any driver that doesn't have insurance. I hope that the financial penalty is so crippling he won't dream of trying something like this on again
The problem with PC is cheating is rampant. So when you get cross play you are opening yourselves up to all sorts of crap. And yes, I'm sure that legit PC gamers get frustrated when they have to play these people too.
I haven't played this in years, but I did like it. Jumped from PS3 to PS4.
Not sure what the hold up is in bringing it to Xbox. Some bonkers red tape somewhere. I'm not interested in getting it on Xbox personally, but a Switch version I wouldn't mind
I never had a 360, only a PS3 so cross game chat wasn't something I was used to, but I didn't use in game chat. Full of abusive people, loud music, people arguing about how their country was better than someone else's country, whiny children playing a game that's rated way above their age. So I just muted em all.
Its why I don't care you can't chat on Nintendo Switch Online, I don't have to worry about any of that stuff
The HD rumble also works really well in Animal Crossing. I'm kinda amazed that people are unable to tell the difference, it literally doesn't feel like rumble that the other two consoles have
@Octane yeah the Joy Con's are certainly different to the Xbox One and PS4 controllers. I'd agree that the rumble isn't massively different from 3rd party games, because 3rd parties never make any extra effort to do something cool. Only really Nintendo games use it.
@BlueOcean that's true. The original Resi 3 is actually my favourite of the series and I really thought it was a stronger title than Resi 2. But then came the reviews that it had a load of cut content, Nemesis was badly used, and its not too long. So I decided to wait. Even if it does have replayability, I've sunk 22 hours into Final Fantasy VII already, and I don't think Resi can touch that level of time for me, and I don't go and replay a game once I've done it. I always wait a while. So I'll try it when it's price drops from its lofty £49 price I keep seeing everywhere.
I was all set to get Resi 3 but 5 hour campaign was a put off. But Game shipped Final Fantasy VII a week early so I've been pretty content playing that masterpiece
@BlueOcean exactly. I'm glad the DualSense doesn't have a big light bar across the top, but certainly I hope we can turn it off. I get its needed for VR but for everything else it's an irritation
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Re: Ubisoft Is Revealing The Setting For The Next Assassin's Creed Game Right Now
Hopefully this won't pester you to spend money on microtransactions as a way of not forcing you to grind for hours, in a game that shouldn't have ridiculous amounts of grinding due to the fact its not a sodding RPG!
Re: Phil Spencer Explains Why The Feel Of Xbox Series X Games Will 'Change Dramatically'
The fact they have gone all out with the tech speaks volumes. This gen was very weak power wise, with even PS4 Pro and Xbox One X hamstrung by their inadequate CPUs.
I think the combination of seriously powerful hardware, and SSD with load times pretty much eliminated, means we are going to be playing some amazing looking games. And that's what it all comes down to in the end, I can't wait to see what is coming.
Re: Guide: When Is Gears Tactics Coming To Xbox One?
Splash Damage? I still haven't forgotten Brink.
Re: Poll: How Much Confidence Do You Have In Xbox Right Now?
I'm confident Phil Spencer has put in place a system that will be great. It really does feel like the Microsoft of 2005 is back, however, we need to see games. Microsoft has rested on Halo, Forza and Gears for far too long, and while the fact they went around bringing companies like Ninja Theory and Obsidian into Xbox game studios, I am optimistic that there will be amazing games coming down the line. Ninja Theory especially, people don't realise what an amazing developer they are
Re: UK Charts: GTA V Climbs Back Into The Top Five Yet Again
Go Isabelle, go!
Re: Xbox Lockhart Will Be "Surprisingly Small In Volume", Suggests Insider
Well like he said if it's in the supply chain someone will leak it. We know it's real for starters, even tho Microsoft haven't even announced anything.
It remains to be seen how this will play out. There's still the feeling that it could potentially hold Series X back. We shall see
Re: Microsoft's Jason Ronald Provides New Xbox Series X Hints
New surprises? Like bringing Fable back?
Re: DOOM Eternal Sold 3x More Digital Copies Than DOOM (2016) At Launch
No surprise considering people can't go to the shops and buy it. Digital sales everywhere are soaring
Re: Is This An Early Look At Forza Motorsport On Xbox Series X?
That doesn't look very next gen at all, so hopefully when they start showing stuff off it will look amazing
Re: All Of These 20+ Games Are Coming To Xbox One Next Week
@XBontendo well yes but I wanted it on Switch, not Xbox, yet its free here. I'll probs just get the Switch version
Re: All Of These 20+ Games Are Coming To Xbox One Next Week
I wish streets of rage 4 wasn't coming to gamepass, I want it on my Switch. Now I don't know what to do 🤷♀️
Re: There's A New Adventures Of Tintin Game In The Works
Will be keeping an eye out for this one
Re: Phil Spencer Talks Xbox Series X Reveal Plans, Says He's "Never Been More Excited"
@gingataisen I hear you. Sick of these 'remasters'. Fortunately smart delivery should put an end to that, and further expose scummy companies like EA (who you can bet will try and weasel their way out of it), as someone who doesn't care about games.
Yes to next gen games. No to current gen 'remasters'. Tho you can probably bet when the consoles do come out certain sites will be full of people going "plz port xxxx in 60fps!!!!!!"
Re: Have Another Two Games Just Been Confirmed For Xbox Game Pass?
I've had my eye on control for awhile. I was umming and ahing about getting it. That's a bit of money saved then
Re: Phil Spencer Talks Xbox Series X Reveal Plans, Says He's "Never Been More Excited"
We're all excited for what Phil will bring. Since this is his baby, he's got a point to prove after Mattricks disaster. Xbox is in good hands.
Now show us the games Phil! We want Halo!
Re: Former Sony Designer Suggests The Xbox Series X Is "A Beast" Compared To PS5
@BlueOcean I never said you were claiming that, I said you were hinting as such by the way you said it.
Those consoles did not shift the numbers they did due to piracy. The Dreamcast didn't even have to be modded, it ran burnt cds and yet still never got noticed.
And yes Gran Turismo sold 10 million and GTA 17 million. So what? Most games don't even hit double digit sales. The software sales for those two consoles were a million miles from what companies got on the other consoles. What's your point?
Re: Former Sony Designer Suggests The Xbox Series X Is "A Beast" Compared To PS5
@BlueOcean but what you posted was factually incorrect. Your original post basically insinuated that the only reason PSOne and PS2 dominated was due to them being easy to pirate games for. And you asked if the two consoles had better libraries, and I answered that they did. I don't see how the original Xbox had a better library than PS2. It had a weaker library than GameCube for starters, at least that console had Nintendo making games for it. Sony didn't get 'lucky'. Not by a long shot.
Re: Surprise! Red Dead Redemption 2 Is Coming To Xbox Game Pass
I never got around to playing this. Will do now
Re: Former Sony Designer Suggests The Xbox Series X Is "A Beast" Compared To PS5
@BlueOcean yes actually, the PS2 DID have a much better library than GameCube and Xbox. There were times when I was starved for games on GameCube yet with PS2 I was subjected to a barrage of great games. The PS2 is considered a classic for a reason, and it did not sell 150 million due to the fact it played DVD. The PSOne was a perfect storm with amazing exclusives such as Gran Turismo to Silent Hill, whereas the Saturn never got many 3rd party games despite using CDs, and Nintendo just plodded along thinking they would be alright in the end.
And as for the PS4, I already said Sony finished the gen stronger than Microsoft. They'd closed one hell of a gap, and fired out games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo 6, to name a few, whereas Microsoft relied on Kinect towards the end of the 360, and seemingly rested on Gears, Forza, and Halo (a fact that Phil Spencer has attempted to rectify), before Mattrick went off on his crazy talk of stick with 360, and Kinect privacy issues.
Re: Former Sony Designer Suggests The Xbox Series X Is "A Beast" Compared To PS5
I'm kinda amazed at the fact some people think Sony only dominated because they 'got lucky'. Right. Because the fact the PSOne had an endless supply of great games that the other two didn't have, and the same with the PS2, didn't play into it at all.
The PS4 was Sony firing on all cylinders. Microsofts self implosion (Don Mattrick telling people without Internet to buy a 360 has to be one of the worst comments the games industry has ever witnessed) certainly helped, as did privacy issues around Kinect (Edward Snowdon blowing the whistle on what the US government was doing came at a really bad time for Microsoft with its always watching, always listening Kinect), but Sony certainly finished the generation in a stronger position. They'd broadened their games library (something Spencer has tried to address), and carried on supporting the PS3 up until the end with Gran Turismo 6. Whereas Microsoft had, for some reason, descended into a farce with Kinect games, some daft e3s that focused on casuals (remember Usher?), and a ceo that seemed to be losing the plot (and he did!).
You can see the difference with Spencer. He is a gamer, as well as a ceo. Mattrick was a former EA exec.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Lockhart To Feature 4TF GPU, Could Be Revealed "Any Day Now"
@BlueOcean yes you and me might think it's straightforward, we're gamers. I'm just talking broadly where it can be confusing for the masses, because they get confused quite easily. I'm not saying that the naming WILL be a Nintendo style mistake, just that it has the potential to be a problem.
@sixrings it's usually not a good idea to just abandon the current console when you release another one. Usually it's positioned as a considerably cheaper alternative.
Re: Former Sony Designer Suggests The Xbox Series X Is "A Beast" Compared To PS5
The Series X has a power advantage, but what will that advantage be in practice? Will it be like the PS4/One, where it was quite clear, or will it be like PS3/360 where it was only clear in Sonys games.
Probably Sony did get caught off guard. But then Microsoft were quite clearly hell bent on, after having the weaker console two generations in a row, having the console with the superior spec. However, I think we all know Sonys games will look amazing like they always have done. And we still have heard very little from Sony. This is a company that has squashed the competition flat in three out of four generations, and managed to turn the PS3 round from its disaster of a launch to actually finishing the generation in second place, so you'd have to be naive to underestimate them, and I doubt Microsoft are making that mistake. I do get the feeling they are being evasive for a reason, only for them to come out with a drop the mic moment. But as of right now, Microsoft are getting the positive limelight
Re: Rumour: Xbox Lockhart To Feature 4TF GPU, Could Be Revealed "Any Day Now"
@gingataisen I don't think Microsoft have announced they are phasing them out. They might have slashed the price of the X but I wouldn't say that's phasing it out. Since series x games work on Xbox One I guess they won't be phasing it out straight away
Re: This Is What The New Xbox Series X Logo Looks Like
It's alright, it is what it is
Re: Rumour: Xbox Lockhart To Feature 4TF GPU, Could Be Revealed "Any Day Now"
@gingataisen that's true but now we have
Xbox One S
Xbox One X
Xbox Series X
Potentially Xbox Series S
General rule of thumb would be to assume society is thick, because it is, and they need to be told what to buy. It might not happen where people get confused but the possibility is there. Even with the Wii U people thought it was a new controller for the Wii, not an actual new console
Re: Rumour: Xbox Lockhart To Feature 4TF GPU, Could Be Revealed "Any Day Now"
Will be interesting if this launches at a price that surprises everyone. There is the slight worry that it could hold series x back. That remains to be seen, and hopefully it won't, but time will tell.
If Sony releases PS5 and nothing like lockhart it could be a coup for Microsoft. Of course, if they call it series s they could back themselves into a corner where people get confused over the naming like people did with 3DS/Wii U
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Designer Suggests It Could Be One Of The Best RPGs Ever
@Incarna remember you can't spell ignorant without ign.
I'm really looking forward to this coming out, unless they really blow it (unlikely) its pretty much guaranteed to be a great game. How great tho remains to be seen.
Re: Halo Co-Creator Explains The Importance Of Xbox Series X And PS5's SSDs
The proof will be in the pudding. They can hype it as much as they want, and it's quite exciting to hear going into next gen, but we'll have to see how it turns out in practice.
Re: Nvidia's GeForce Now Service Is Losing Xbox Game Studios Titles
Would anyone be surprised at this? They are gearing up for project xcloud. And companies are removing their games from this.
You could argue its wrong (and I don't see a problem with people streaming games they have already bought elsewhere), but you can't deny its naive of nvidia to just believe that companies would simply be okay with this and just keep their games on out of the goodness of their hearts.
Re: Random: This Xbox Series S Concept Design Is Totes Adorbs
I quite like it. Probably will be a bit bigger but would be pretty cool if they released it that size
Re: This Is The Final Limited Edition Xbox One X That Will Ever Be Released
Looks great. If I didn't have a white x, I'd probably buy it
Re: Rumour: Xbox Series X And PS5 Will Get Major Reveals In May
Well they have to start showing games soon. Tho I really believe neither will release this year, I don't even think there will be a massive appetite for a £400-£500 console this year, going on the fact unemployment is skyrocketing and economies are tanking
Re: Random: Driver Loses Car, Gets Court Summons While Picking Up An Xbox
He deserves a £60 fine for breaking the lockdown, but I have no sympathy for any driver that doesn't have insurance. I hope that the financial penalty is so crippling he won't dream of trying something like this on again
Re: Poll: How Many Games Have You Bought For Your Xbox One?
I have about 7 that I've bought and the rest on gamepass. Granted I did only get it last year.
Re: Xbox Players Are Disabling Crossplay To Avoid PC Cheaters In Call Of Duty: Warzone
The problem with PC is cheating is rampant. So when you get cross play you are opening yourselves up to all sorts of crap. And yes, I'm sure that legit PC gamers get frustrated when they have to play these people too.
Best way is no crossplay with PC. Console only.
Re: Cliff Bleszinski Says He Hasn't Been Approached To Consult On The Gears Franchise
Do they need to contact him? Gears 4 and 5 are awesome as it is. The Coalition know what they are doing.
Re: Poll: Which Is The Best Xbox Dashboard Of All Time?
Blades because it was simple. And fast. Rather than what we have now, where the ui on Xbox One is slower than a slug crawling through molasses
Re: Random: Lots Of People Are Noticing Slow Download Speeds On Xbox Live
Yes they are painfully slow for me.
Re: No Plans To Put Final Fantasy XIV On Xbox Game Pass, Says Dev
I haven't played this in years, but I did like it. Jumped from PS3 to PS4.
Not sure what the hold up is in bringing it to Xbox. Some bonkers red tape somewhere. I'm not interested in getting it on Xbox personally, but a Switch version I wouldn't mind
Re: Talking Point: Do You Ever Use In-Game Chat On Xbox One?
I never had a 360, only a PS3 so cross game chat wasn't something I was used to, but I didn't use in game chat. Full of abusive people, loud music, people arguing about how their country was better than someone else's country, whiny children playing a game that's rated way above their age. So I just muted em all.
Its why I don't care you can't chat on Nintendo Switch Online, I don't have to worry about any of that stuff
Re: Poll: Which Controller Do You Prefer? Xbox Series X Or PS5?
@mousieone yeah the controllers go crazy when catching a large fish like a sea bass, but only do little teeny rumbles when catching a butterfly fish
Re: Sony's Shuhei Yoshida Praises Xbox In Tweet To Phil Spencer
@ThePrettySenshi maybe, but that console war between Sega and Nintendo was pretty badass
Re: Poll: Which Controller Do You Prefer? Xbox Series X Or PS5?
The HD rumble also works really well in Animal Crossing. I'm kinda amazed that people are unable to tell the difference, it literally doesn't feel like rumble that the other two consoles have
Re: Poll: Which Controller Do You Prefer? Xbox Series X Or PS5?
@Octane yeah the Joy Con's are certainly different to the Xbox One and PS4 controllers. I'd agree that the rumble isn't massively different from 3rd party games, because 3rd parties never make any extra effort to do something cool. Only really Nintendo games use it.
But when it is used its noticeable
Re: UK Charts: Resident Evil 3 Misses Out On First Place, But Just Barely
@BlueOcean that's true. The original Resi 3 is actually my favourite of the series and I really thought it was a stronger title than Resi 2. But then came the reviews that it had a load of cut content, Nemesis was badly used, and its not too long. So I decided to wait. Even if it does have replayability, I've sunk 22 hours into Final Fantasy VII already, and I don't think Resi can touch that level of time for me, and I don't go and replay a game once I've done it. I always wait a while. So I'll try it when it's price drops from its lofty £49 price I keep seeing everywhere.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Coming To Japan, Phil Spencer Comments
You have to give it to them, despite nearly 20 years of being completely rejected by Japan they still give it a go.
Re: Poll: Which Controller Do You Prefer? Xbox Series X Or PS5?
@BlueOcean well I've seen a lot of people talking about is as HD rumble so if it's not they need to clarify it some more.
Talking about how gravel impacts the vibration screams HD rumble. I suppose we will see what it's like when we get our hands on it
Re: Microsoft Explains How External Storage Will Work On Xbox Series X
I hope they have larger sizes available. If I can slot in a 4tb ssd it will be preferable
Re: UK Charts: Resident Evil 3 Misses Out On First Place, But Just Barely
I was all set to get Resi 3 but 5 hour campaign was a put off. But Game shipped Final Fantasy VII a week early so I've been pretty content playing that masterpiece
Re: Random: The New 'Xbox Controller' For PlayStation 5 Is Now Trending On Social Media
@BlueOcean exactly. I'm glad the DualSense doesn't have a big light bar across the top, but certainly I hope we can turn it off. I get its needed for VR but for everything else it's an irritation