@Ocat It’s DAY 1 along with Gears 5 upgrade and some other titles.
Higher resolution textures
Improved anisotropic filtering
Higher-resolution volume fog
Higher quality depth of field
Extremely far draw distances with high level of object detail
Shadow resolution and shadow distance
High-quality screen-space reflections
Post processing improvements like bloom, lens flare, light shafts, ect.
That said, The Coalition is also working on some new Xbox Series X features, including Screen Space Global Illumination, higher particle counts, and yes, the ability to play MP at up to 120fps.
Contact Shadows
This allows extremely realistic shadowing as each pixel on screen traces back to the light source to eliminate any shadow biasing artifacts or fill in missing shadows.
Screen Space Global Illumination
Integrated from UE4 4.24 this feature allows us to achieve full realtime GI at 4K/60fps.
SSGI's AO pass replaces the more traditional SSAO giving a much more naturalistic broad real-time AO.
Higher particle counts
Our particle counts are 50% higher than PC Ultra spec.
This game is very beautiful yet easily misunderstood to be simple in rendering performance. Hats off to Moon Studios they have done lot of high quality custom engine work to make it run on Switch at 60fps.
@Medic_Alert He’s obviously referring to the possible bottleneck due to AMD powershift which is evident in some crossgen titles like DMC5, Spiderman etc where some next-gen noticeable visual fidelity has to be comprised in CPU heavy scenarios. There’s absolutely no certainty that when CPU runs at 3.5ghz in low latency scenarios then the GPU will NOT drop to severely underpowered 1.2ghz mode. Xbox hardware team has tried this tech and decided to go for a locked predictable sustained performance without any boost peak mode for less uncertainty.
“Now, let’s say the average load time with those SSDs on next-gen will be 10 seconds,” posits Thomas Mahler (game director at Moon Studios). “And let’s be generous and say that the PS5 SSD and throughput is twice as fast as the [Xbox Series X] — At that point you’d have a 10s load times vs. 5s load times (keep in mind that loading often is more than just shuffling data around, so this isn’t in any way accurate). I don’t know if I’d care that much about 5 seconds saved every time I load if what I give up for is framerate or resolution. And I guess that’s the bet that Microsoft made here — more power rather than faster data transfer.”
So I guess we have to wait and see which one turns out to be a diminishing return.
@GamingFan4Lyf In Larry’s podcast the developer told that he could very well avoided the resolution drop but he didn’t due to some silly reasons which he could have very well optimised for using lot of next-gen rendering techniques. He was a Skyrim modder and might be too much work for one guy.
@BAMozzy Maybe it’s a little bit of too much work for one guy (check Larry’s podcast) otherwise the game could have been optimised much more than even Gears 5.
A PWA solution will work which Amazon Luna is leveraging as an alternative way for it’s streaming service. But there will always be some extra iOS system level restrictions for web apps although chances are it may not matter that much for only streaming.
Really nothing to see here. Atleast Microsoft has sent this prototype units to hundreds and some usual suspects are twisting words from 1 or 2 individuals without quoting their full original statements and the biased media has jumped into the bandwagon with it. PC components generate heat too and runs at almost twice as high as 45C. It means Series X is operating properly and ventilating heat efficiently as it’s supposed to without any noise.
@AJDarkstar Yes I’ve seen the controlled environment breakdown video and according to it only removing the warranty tape will make the warranty void. But I’m not sure if it’s going to be hot swappable too.
@redd214 No external SSD will be able to exactly match the architecture of the internal or the expansion card. Maybe a thunderbolt 3/4 external nvme enclosure will be able to outmatch the speed but it’s just not only about that but also the hardware architecture of the system/XVA.
We all know there will be a 3% traffic from outside who will love to crack open the lid and possibly make the warranty void. Now little Timmy’s grandmother will be easily able to buy a compatible PCIe4 m.2 drive correctly and install it on the board.
@StonyKL Really nothing to tell from this. Atleast Microsoft has sent this prototype units to hundreds and some usual suspects are twisting words from 1 or 2 individuals without quoting their full original statements and the media has jumped into the bandwagon with it. PC components generate heat too and runs at almost twice as high as 45C. It means Series X is operating properly and ventilating heat efficiently as it’s supposed to without any noise.
@Ryall 45C is considered a normal operating temperature of PC components. People just go along with unconfirmed exaggerated claims picking up 2/3 words from whole statement by 1 or 2 folks out of hundreds of reviewers without making any logical sense these days.
This get more affordable and will come with various options with time as seen in the usual YoY flash memory price fall.
Proprietary format enables it to be easily hot swappable by any average joe.
Looks like another Hollywood production quality level exclusive in the works by Playground.
Aaron Greenberg talked about this in RDX podcast today, it’s not only just new IPs that they gained but also a huge manpower of developers, artists, publishers, PR etc. who could easily cross collaborate with each other very efficiently without taking much financial risks. They said that they were already seeing this happening with their existing studios.
Each studios also have several teams working on multiple projects. To sum it up, Microsoft has a bandwidth of approx 35-36 teams right now mostly working on new games.
Chill, there are more important stuff to work on right now for Xcloud especially transitioning to Series X server blade next year. It will look gorgeous on 4K TVs.
There’s a reason why only Xbox has been transparent all along, they have disclosed a full naked hardware breakdown with Digitalfoundry way back in February. There’s a reason why Microsoft waited longer before locking down on specs, which’s why devs got their kits way later. Everything will be ultimately revealed crystal clear later this year when Digitalfoundry shows the Cyberpunk gameplay comparison finally.
I guess they have also made a video explanation about this. Also you might wanna checkout the earlier Xbox Wire articles. And yes I had watched the HDTVTest video when it came out.
@BAMozzy I might be wrong but that custom H/W acceleration block is designed only for things like FFT, video encoding, spatial audio processing etc. Unlike Nvidia Tensor cores, these next-gen consoles don’t have separate custom hardware for matmul ops and other similar things. Instead they have powerful CUs which can do low precision calculations in parallel and thus aiming for “economical upgrade to traditional rendering, not a complete replacement” in things like RT.
@BAMozzy It doesn’t work that way. There’s no static algorithm available to generate heat maps dynamically or atleast it won’t work as good as a stochastic solution. You need to use a ML inference model using DirectML which will ofcourse benefit from extra GPU headroom. When this feature matures further and becomes generalised like DLSS 2.0 for ALL games, along with other things like AI super sampling, AI inference for character behaviour, DXR etc. these will be greatly benefitted from additional headroom.
@Lupaie79 GP hasn’t been a huge deal back then like it’s now but from now on everything Xbox owns will be hitting GP day 1. They have confirmed this in July event and several times afterwards.
@SpacemanJupiter I know that channel and have been following his content regularly for years as I’m a huge enthusiast of not only computer graphics and deep learning/AGI but also computer science, physics and mathematics in general.
@InterceptorAlpha “I do wanna see Xbox fail given that I have more play time on it than my Switch and PS4, possibly even PC, combined.” my brain hurts just reading that line, can’t endure so much of BS reasoning. Also please spare us from reading another line of your idiotic argument. GET HELP and GET WELL SOON!
@mousieone “DF still has the preview unit” Now see that’s a speculation and honestly no one expect them anymore to have same level of confidence with hardware transparency.
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Re: Microsoft Has Spent 500K Hours Testing Back Compat Xbox Games For Series X|S
Honestly this is a way better approach then leaving up to the consumer’s fate to test the 99.9% titles by themselves day 1.
Re: Forza Horizon 4 Perk Now Available With Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
@Ocat It’s DAY 1 along with Gears 5 upgrade and some other titles.
Higher resolution textures
Improved anisotropic filtering
Higher-resolution volume fog
Higher quality depth of field
Extremely far draw distances with high level of object detail
Shadow resolution and shadow distance
High-quality screen-space reflections
Post processing improvements like bloom, lens flare, light shafts, ect.
That said, The Coalition is also working on some new Xbox Series X features, including Screen Space Global Illumination, higher particle counts, and yes, the ability to play MP at up to 120fps.
Contact Shadows
This allows extremely realistic shadowing as each pixel on screen traces back to the light source to eliminate any shadow biasing artifacts or fill in missing shadows.
Screen Space Global Illumination
Integrated from UE4 4.24 this feature allows us to achieve full realtime GI at 4K/60fps.
SSGI's AO pass replaces the more traditional SSAO giving a much more naturalistic broad real-time AO.
Higher particle counts
Our particle counts are 50% higher than PC Ultra spec.
Real-Time Cinematics in 4K 60fps
Xbox One X cinematics were 4K 30fps
120fps Multiplayer support
Re: Two More Ex-Naughty Dog Talents Join New Xbox Studio The Initiative
@StonyKL I think Initiative has someone from Rockstar too.
Re: Yakuza: Like A Dragon Lets You Choose Between 1440p & 900p On Xbox Series S
Horribly optimised and poorly scaled dragon engine doesn’t even run on 4K60 on 2080 PC. Shame on such lazy trash developers from a well known studio.
Re: Interview: Getting Musical With Ori And The Will Of The Wisps Composer Gareth Coker
This game is very beautiful yet easily misunderstood to be simple in rendering performance. Hats off to Moon Studios they have done lot of high quality custom engine work to make it run on Switch at 60fps.
Re: Dirt 5 Preview Build For Xbox Series X Is 'Weeks' Old, Confirms Dev
Series X vs PS5 boot time.
https://youtu.be/eYR0qyjN59s
@Menchi @playstation_king Diminishing returned in yo face.
In the end truth shall prevail. 🦄🤧🤮
Re: Roundup: First Impressions Of Dirt 5 Running On Xbox Series X
This happens when you use 10 dolla capture cards along with the trashy low bitrate youtube compression artifacts.
Re: Team Xbox Has 'More To Come' In The Final 4 Weeks To Series X|S Launch
Yes yes bring it on 💚🙌💚
Re: The Falconeer Dev 'Surprised By How Powerful The Xbox Series S Is'
@PhhhCough Except they didn’t as much as Gears 5 devs had done with some really incredible graphics features.
Re: PSA: You Don't Need To Clog Your Xbox Series X Storage With Old Games
@Medic_Alert He’s obviously referring to the possible bottleneck due to AMD powershift which is evident in some crossgen titles like DMC5, Spiderman etc where some next-gen noticeable visual fidelity has to be comprised in CPU heavy scenarios. There’s absolutely no certainty that when CPU runs at 3.5ghz in low latency scenarios then the GPU will NOT drop to severely underpowered 1.2ghz mode. Xbox hardware team has tried this tech and decided to go for a locked predictable sustained performance without any boost peak mode for less uncertainty.
“Now, let’s say the average load time with those SSDs on next-gen will be 10 seconds,” posits Thomas Mahler (game director at Moon Studios). “And let’s be generous and say that the PS5 SSD and throughput is twice as fast as the [Xbox Series X] — At that point you’d have a 10s load times vs. 5s load times (keep in mind that loading often is more than just shuffling data around, so this isn’t in any way accurate). I don’t know if I’d care that much about 5 seconds saved every time I load if what I give up for is framerate or resolution. And I guess that’s the bet that Microsoft made here — more power rather than faster data transfer.”
So I guess we have to wait and see which one turns out to be a diminishing return.
Re: Xbox Series X Aims To Make Cabling More Accessible Than Ever Before
Xbox engineering team has really done a great job going for a very thoughtful, functional and unique design for easier user experience. 🥳🙌💚
https://youtu.be/VL2r3BmZ_Fg
Re: The Falconeer Has A 120FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X|S
@GamingFan4Lyf In Larry’s podcast the developer told that he could very well avoided the resolution drop but he didn’t due to some silly reasons which he could have very well optimised for using lot of next-gen rendering techniques. He was a Skyrim modder and might be too much work for one guy.
https://youtu.be/mJK95OKwSgc
Re: The Falconeer Has A 120FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X|S
@BAMozzy Maybe it’s a little bit of too much work for one guy (check Larry’s podcast) otherwise the game could have been optimised much more than even Gears 5.
Re: The Falconeer Has A 120FPS Performance Mode On Xbox Series X|S
I thought he told in the podcast that it’s almost 4K@120fps on Series X with 1800p QHD+ render resolution in some places.
Re: Moon Studios Says It's 'Leaving The Door Open' For Another Ori Game
Here’s to hoping for a beautiful trilogy. 🥂
Re: Xbox Kicks Off Series X|S Marketing Campaign With Spectacular Trailer
Looks like they are teasing both Halo Infinite and Starfield.
Re: Next-Gen Horror The Medium Releases This December For Xbox Series X|S
YES YES YES 🙌 Let’s go!
Re: Xbox Reportedly Planning A 'Browser Solution' For Game Pass On iOS
A PWA solution will work which Amazon Luna is leveraging as an alternative way for it’s streaming service. But there will always be some extra iOS system level restrictions for web apps although chances are it may not matter that much for only streaming.
Re: Microsoft Cools Concerns About Xbox Series X Heat Production
Really nothing to see here. Atleast Microsoft has sent this prototype units to hundreds and some usual suspects are twisting words from 1 or 2 individuals without quoting their full original statements and the biased media has jumped into the bandwagon with it. PC components generate heat too and runs at almost twice as high as 45C. It means Series X is operating properly and ventilating heat efficiently as it’s supposed to without any noise.
Re: The Xbox Series X & PS5 Have Wildly Different Ways Of Expanding Storage
@AJDarkstar Yes I’ve seen the controlled environment breakdown video and according to it only removing the warranty tape will make the warranty void. But I’m not sure if it’s going to be hot swappable too.
Re: The Xbox Series X & PS5 Have Wildly Different Ways Of Expanding Storage
@redd214 No external SSD will be able to exactly match the architecture of the internal or the expansion card. Maybe a thunderbolt 3/4 external nvme enclosure will be able to outmatch the speed but it’s just not only about that but also the hardware architecture of the system/XVA.
Re: The Xbox Series X & PS5 Have Wildly Different Ways Of Expanding Storage
We all know there will be a 3% traffic from outside who will love to crack open the lid and possibly make the warranty void. Now little Timmy’s grandmother will be easily able to buy a compatible PCIe4 m.2 drive correctly and install it on the board.
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
@StonyKL Really nothing to tell from this. Atleast Microsoft has sent this prototype units to hundreds and some usual suspects are twisting words from 1 or 2 individuals without quoting their full original statements and the media has jumped into the bandwagon with it. PC components generate heat too and runs at almost twice as high as 45C. It means Series X is operating properly and ventilating heat efficiently as it’s supposed to without any noise.
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
@Ryall 45C is considered a normal operating temperature of PC components. People just go along with unconfirmed exaggerated claims picking up 2/3 words from whole statement by 1 or 2 folks out of hundreds of reviewers without making any logical sense these days.
Re: Xbox Reminds Us It Will Offer Multiple Expandable Storage Options Moving Forward
This get more affordable and will come with various options with time as seen in the usual YoY flash memory price fall.
Proprietary format enables it to be easily hot swappable by any average joe.
Re: There's Reportedly A Next-Gen Game That Runs At 8K, 60FPS
@JON22 That’s funny but a launch exclusive called The Falconeer will be probably the first game on Xbox Series X to run at 8K.
https://youtu.be/rl3Oi2M_KFA
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/10/01/inside-xbox-series-x-optimized-the-falconeer/
Re: John Wick Hex Finally Makes Its Debut On Xbox This December
Looks like Keanu gonna end this year with some bangers.
Re: Forza Studio Turn 10 Might Be Providing Support On The New Fable
Looks like another Hollywood production quality level exclusive in the works by Playground.
Aaron Greenberg talked about this in RDX podcast today, it’s not only just new IPs that they gained but also a huge manpower of developers, artists, publishers, PR etc. who could easily cross collaborate with each other very efficiently without taking much financial risks. They said that they were already seeing this happening with their existing studios.
Each studios also have several teams working on multiple projects. To sum it up, Microsoft has a bandwidth of approx 35-36 teams right now mostly working on new games.
https://youtu.be/n6i000LevFY
Re: Xbox Is Working On Bringing Game Pass Streaming To Consoles & PC
Chill, there are more important stuff to work on right now for Xcloud especially transitioning to Series X server blade next year. It will look gorgeous on 4K TVs.
Re: Random: Xbox Taiwan Pokes Fun At PS5 With Funny Social Media Post
That’s absolutely hilarious! 😂
Re: Microsoft: We Know People Want To See More Xbox Series X Gameplay
There’s a reason why only Xbox has been transparent all along, they have disclosed a full naked hardware breakdown with Digitalfoundry way back in February. There’s a reason why Microsoft waited longer before locking down on specs, which’s why devs got their kits way later. Everything will be ultimately revealed crystal clear later this year when Digitalfoundry shows the Cyberpunk gameplay comparison finally.
Re: Video: Here's How Auto HDR Enhances Games On Xbox Series X|S
@BAMozzy Like I said, this feature is absolutely leveraging machine learning. This has also been confirmed by Digitalfoundry earlier this year.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs
I guess they have also made a video explanation about this. Also you might wanna checkout the earlier Xbox Wire articles. And yes I had watched the HDTVTest video when it came out.
Re: What's All This About The Xbox Series X Running Hot?
Jez is a funny guy.
Re: Video: Here's How Auto HDR Enhances Games On Xbox Series X|S
@BAMozzy I might be wrong but that custom H/W acceleration block is designed only for things like FFT, video encoding, spatial audio processing etc. Unlike Nvidia Tensor cores, these next-gen consoles don’t have separate custom hardware for matmul ops and other similar things. Instead they have powerful CUs which can do low precision calculations in parallel and thus aiming for “economical upgrade to traditional rendering, not a complete replacement” in things like RT.
Re: NBA 2K21 Has Some Seriously Impressive Next-Gen Graphics
It’s funny that the concerned 🦄 trolls will get to play the title only after Xbox fans get it.
Re: Video: Here's How Auto HDR Enhances Games On Xbox Series X|S
@BAMozzy It doesn’t work that way. There’s no static algorithm available to generate heat maps dynamically or atleast it won’t work as good as a stochastic solution. You need to use a ML inference model using DirectML which will ofcourse benefit from extra GPU headroom. When this feature matures further and becomes generalised like DLSS 2.0 for ALL games, along with other things like AI super sampling, AI inference for character behaviour, DXR etc. these will be greatly benefitted from additional headroom.
Re: Video: Here's How Auto HDR Enhances Games On Xbox Series X|S
Like I said those extra CUs WILL ABSOLUTELY MATTER.
Re: Dishonored, Prey & Wolfenstein Games Rated For Xbox Series X|S
This won’t be a shocker honestly.
Re: Xbox Exec: Series X Pre-Orders Broke Records Within Seconds
@BlueOcean Oh alright thanks I get it now. Yeah it’s not wrong to be a fan but always try to demand better. 😅
Re: Video: This Is How Quickly The Xbox 360 Emulator Loads On Xbox Series X
Gotta give credit to Microsoft’s transparency for sending prototype consoles to random people without any major “controlled environment” restrictions.
Re: Random: Family Member Builds Series X Piggy Bank For Xbox Fan
Seriously who would have thought this? 😂
Re: Reminder: Forza Motorsport 7 Races Onto Xbox Game Pass Later This Week
@Lupaie79 GP hasn’t been a huge deal back then like it’s now but from now on everything Xbox owns will be hitting GP day 1. They have confirmed this in July event and several times afterwards.
Re: Reminder: Forza Motorsport 7 Races Onto Xbox Game Pass Later This Week
There were some licensing issues which they needed to fix before hitting GP.
Re: Phil Spencer: We're Years Away From 8K Being Standard In Games
@SpacemanJupiter I know that channel and have been following his content regularly for years as I’m a huge enthusiast of not only computer graphics and deep learning/AGI but also computer science, physics and mathematics in general.
Re: Xbox Celebrates A Record Year For Its First-Party Studios
@InterceptorAlpha “I do wanna see Xbox fail given that I have more play time on it than my Switch and PS4, possibly even PC, combined.” my brain hurts just reading that line, can’t endure so much of BS reasoning. Also please spare us from reading another line of your idiotic argument.
GET HELP and GET WELL SOON!
Re: More Details On Xbox Series X|S Launch Titles Are Coming Soon
@mousieone “DF still has the preview unit” Now see that’s a speculation and honestly no one expect them anymore to have same level of confidence with hardware transparency.