MS has to know that there are millions and millions of fans like me asking for the Marcus Fenix collection in UE5. All the multiplayer and modes. Not to mention it will pull in new players for the upcoming show. Gears 6 can take its time and we all win.
@Grumblevolcano their messaging has been poor on a lot of things i would say. I am just saying MS want’s to sell GP and they aren’t bringing GP to PS, so they need to be careful giving away the bigger franchises to Sony. Not saying it won’t happen cause well MS does MS things. But i think they are going to be very case by case games and not just here’s everything. But at the moment there is still very much a reason to have a Xbox for their games. We can’t just turn on our PS5 and play every Xbox game. 😀
@NEStalgia agreed on both fronts. One the value of the digital Series X is great for gamers but hard to create marketing buzz around and two the PR speech of Sony and MS aren’t great. This is an industry where talk is cheap tho. Let the games do the talking and i think MS has the edge in June. I will throw my $1300 dollar iPad Pro to the ceiling in joy if they announce Gears of War Marcus Fenix collection in June and show Gears 6 both in UE5. Sony don’t have a game that i would be that excited for.
I think Pro’s sell ok for who they are marketed too and also due to the fact they are more expensive and have half the lifespan. Not saying they are a catch all do it right. But i ran with the One X and PS4 Pro and found them to be better for me and my style. Not sure about PS5 Pro tho. If it can’t hit 60 across the board i will be half as excited for it.
Please say they are going back to Intel and NVIDA. AMD is trash with machine learning and AI. Let Sony and AMD play with that tech and jump back into the real power. That alone would make them more powerful and explain the comment about the team making sure games work well on next gen Xbox’s.
@Grumblevolcano thats strange i just booted up my PS5 and i didn’t see Halo Gears or Forza on there. Silly me but i guess i need to turn on my Xbox to play those. Joking aside we still don’t know what exclusives will or won’t come to PS and we for sure don’t know what benefits this new gen console will bring to games.
@NEStalgia i fully agree that i like to hear MS doubling down on backwards compatibility and game preservation. Thats such a strong part of Xbox. I am excited and confused on what their next console looks like. But i hope we get to see that handheld soon. However i really hope the leaked pics of a white digital series X isn’t true. I don’t see that doing anything positive for the brand. Digital foundry ripped it and many others are saying whats the point. However i like Sarah Bond continuing to say big leap next gen, i think that is MS’s way of saying forget about the Pro console we don’t have and other’s do. Next gen is going to be the place to be and if it is coming in 2026 then all the better. Interesting times ahead. I am hoping they nail the June showcase and really start to flex all those studios and show they have loads of games in development.
@Grumblevolcano they might go with an external add on disc drive for a while. As disc drives get harder and harder to get it’s going to be a problem at some point in time. Digital going forward should be fairly easy to manage. Good to see them trying as it is important 😊
@NEStalgia the moment i seen Switch i was like this works cause i think it’s what they sort of had in mind for Wii U but there were some limits in tech or they just didn’t have the idea and vision fully ironed out. Now i won’t say i knew it would sell 140 million. I expected upper 80’s to 90’s seeing as it plays into their strengths with handheld. Plus not having to develop separate games.
It’s going to be up to the dev’s to make sure games like the last of Us don’t launch on PC in a bad state. They need to stop thinking the brute power of PC will iron out the lack of optimization consoles need. Plus games like GTA6 in the future need to be there day one and not locked to a PS console. That game is going to be such an attraction for consoles as it will be the only place it’s at. I said it once and i repeat i am just a little confused how all this is going to look. I like the sound of it, i think it makes sense from what i can get my head around. But i want to see what consumers think. What dev’s do to make sure games are running well across the board. I mean the Series S upset so many dev’s, yet PC has 100’s of configurations if not a 1000. Maybe i am just getting old and tech is starting to take a turn on me that i need to see and feel to say yeah thats the one i want and like. As always i enjoy our chats, your knowledge and insight. I always learn something talking with you. Sorry i am out on a limb on this at the moment. I guess i just need to see more of what MS has in store. If the Xbox Deck is real, i buy that day one but the rumor was they would also have a under the Tv console to go alongside it. That is what i want to see what it is.
@NEStalgia i agree with some of that. My push back would be if Sony can still sell close to 100 million units and we don’t know yet if they can or not or for how long. They will be making good money and have plenty of support for the console from dev’s. Same with Nintendo, another 100 million switch 2’s and they will get some kind of support. MS selling launcher skins on PC might work but only if it has Steam of course cause thats where that player base has 100’s of games at. Hence the Steam Deck was a good idea. I do agree that the time is now for MS to bring out a handheld, i actually think it could do fairly well for them. But in the console space or PC with a Xbox skin over the Ui, i am just not sure about that. I guess i like the idea so i want to say yes to it. But i am not sure the console experience purists won’t just go to PS or an actually PC running Steam. You are talking from the business side of it and i largely agree, i am more coming from the consumer side and i have questions on that strategy. Hope it works out. I like Xbox and would hate to see them not pushing something forward in the industry. I know the CEO wants no exclusives and to stop losing so much on console unit sales. So this approach seems to fit that.
@NEStalgia ok Beer goggles off and my mind is still thinking the same way, only had a few. Haha let’s dive in. I want to say first that MS has done such a poor job with their messaging that every week a leak or a game release rumor on PS5 is making it harder and harder to see the road forward for a Xbox Console. I get what you are saying they can just rebrand Xbox as a PC but that would just lump them into the crowded PC market where Steam is king and still having MS fighting for table scraps. Something i think that is true is the console market isn’t growing but it’s not shrinking yet either. PS5 will still hit over 100 million and likely so will switch 2. The only market shrinking is MS’s cause of no games at launch. Then a messy release of Halo. Then a dud with Redfall and since then i feel like it’s been swimming up river. Down almost 50% in Europe. PS is 5.7 million ahead in USA and while i do like the whole play games anywhere. Gamers like us think thats great but 7 out of 10 gamers see that as weakness and MS needing PS to succeed going forward so why not just stick to PS. I even seem some on this site say if such and such games go to PS5 they are selling their Xbox and just playing on PS. At what point does MS look at Xbox and say we are out of toes to shoot off? Let’s say the future of PS shrinks some and it’s only 75-90 million consoles worldwide plus PC day and date. That would be enough with smart budgeting to make it more than worth sticking around. I agree with a lot of your points but a lot of good things would have to happen for MS to make that even worth it and for gamers to care. Steam on Xbox would be cool, not sure the legal implications to make that work. Would that be a court case as well? I don’t see Nintendo going mobile only cause of how much Nintendo values making their hardware a certain why that impacts the characters they develop and how the games are played. Plus Nintendo sells loads of consoles at a profit. Think that is safe for a long while for them. Throw in the extra money they are getting with the movies and theme parks and they seem to be the last one standing if i had to bet. I get what you mean about the hardware runs the store but spitting store money with steam seems odd if they go the windows PC Xbox. I guess i am just confused on this change coming to the industry. Normally i can understand the industry changes better. This one just seems like MS trying to hang on and of course i want them to right the ship and find their groove. But the market just seems to cast them aside outside of the 35-40 million hardcore fans like ourselves. Which at the moment would have Series consoles performing worse than Xbox One. Which i never seen coming. I’m just babbling now, but overall i am just confused as to how this is going to look, work and go over with players. If we see Halo, Gears and Forza on PS5, i am not sure any PC skin looking to be a Xbox moves the needle for them that much. Keeps them in the hardware game sure. Just trying to think if I’d support that or not. Probably.
@nomither6 thats what i would think also. Plus at this point it might be the only Gears game we get on Series, if Gears 6 really is closer to 2026 or 2027. Then it could launch on the newer hardware. So clearly it would make sense to have something for Gears fans. I am even hoping the collection comes out this year or the latest early 2025. Plus i want that new controller so we can hear the chainsaw in the controller.
Just announce Gears of war Marcus Fenix collection and i am head over heels for the showcase. The other stiff seems fine and will live on GP and do well. But Gears of War collection is my game of the generation any console hands down. A Quake reboot wouldn’t hurt my feelings but i am sure ID is working on the next Doom game.
@NEStalgia I’ll do my best to tackle your well made points. One i don’t think Sony would raise the 30%, cause they were built on mostly good relations with 3rd party. To do that would surely damage relationships. Yes MS has a few bones to chew on to stay in the console market. But it’s seeming more and more like table scraps at this point in time than the meat and potatoes they are chasing. Sure kids will buy expensive graphics cards cause they can stream and work and play and do all sorts of things with it that they can’t do on a console. Outside of Apple closed walled gardens are being left behind for do it all devices. As for AAA gaming i think it will live on for years to come but become less risky and of course much slower to market. Sure PS and Xbox want a few AAA games at launch or console end to start and end on high notes. But i am not sure we will see a ton of AAA as MS once said 4 a year. This year is already at the 1/4th mark and we have seen nothing of sorts from MS. This industry changes all the time as any other tech industry. But for as much as it changes it stays the same. Gamers want to be where the games are and they flock to the most golden egg games. It’s no longer Mario vs Sonic or Halo vs Killzone. Mascot’s no longer lead the platforms. It’s where do i get my best bang for the buck and what does my neighbors and friends play on. At the moment that is Mobile, PS and PC. Xbox needs to figure a way to become that next golden egg that people seek after. HellBlade and Avowed aren’t the games that move that needle. Put Gears of War and Halo on PS5 and there’s no turning it around. Unless they want to be the masters of turning table scraps into 5 course meals. Funny how beer makes me use analogies that i feel we have built a friendship into understanding. 😀🍺
@NEStalgia Meanwhile Apple will be leading still in games revenue on Mobile as not even the PC out gain’s mobile gaming. I still think the future in 1-2 gens is Mobile, PC and cloud with consoles being a niche thing for people that prefer it or need it due to cloud infrastructure being an issue. No one under the age of 25 hardly wants to buy a $500 dollar box that only plays games. 80’s-90’s and some early 2000’s kids are keeping consoles going. Kid’s born after 2005 or so are not into consoles like we were as kids and Phil has lightly touched on this. Apple and Google products are just way more desirable to kids and young adults than MS products.
@NEStalgia over on Push they have a article that says leaks are saying that if Sea of Thieves does well on PS5 , MS will be bringing over more game to the PS5 including possibly Gears of War and Starfield. Well if they are going to do that than i am not sure why they would even make more hardware as PS would be the console version of a PC, that runs all games from all companies. The only games Sony and PC would be missing is Nintendo as i see world peace before Nintendo brings Mario Kart to other consoles.
@Weapon_Wheel same here. I will play Gears 6 when it comes out of course. But i want the Marcus Fenix Collection first and way more. I love the first 3 games and to have the online multiplayer back with full lobbies is my dream Series X game. Hope it get’s revealed with a release date and then they can say something cheesy like but wait there’s more and go into the Gears 6 trailer.
World of Warcraft even tho i know that is HIGHLY unlikely to ever happen. I have all the Diablo games and i sort of play COD online until it makes me so mad i have to sit it down and lose all the skills I’ve gained.
@Sakko yeah it’s normally the same old games on sale. I suppose there isn’t much new games to discount. Only thing i am excited for in gaming is the Xbox June Showcase and i want to see if they release the updated controller. Otherwise I’ll just stay the the games i am grinding on now. Well… unless that Final Fantasy 16 to Xbox rumor is true. I would get that even tho i have it on PS5.
@Sakko I was wondering that myself. On my Ps5 the Spring Sales started but not on my Series X. I don’t have steam but sounds like even they are live. There’s not to much i need but i like to at least look.
@Fiendish-Beaver i actually never did try any of those games as I’m afraid i will get addicted to it like i am in real life. I used to play Super Black Bass on the Super NES when I was young.
@OldGamer999 yeah they need to capitalize on Sony and Nintendo being quiet this year. Plus outside of Switch 2, i don’t think Sony and for sure MS don’t have a game that can over shadow GTA 6 if it comes out in 2025. I honestly think Sony is just going to throw out some more marvel titles and wait for GTA6. Unless we see something with Naughty Dog. All their other studios seem to be coming off canceled projects and probably need more time. At the June showcase we need to see Perfect Dark, Fable and Gears 6 all looking next gen.
@OldGamer999 i can agree with that. We need some killer titles on Xbox for sure. I think once we see Gears 6, Fable and a few others we will see the power of the Series . Heck even Hell Blade 2 looks crazy good. Xbox needs to create something big to go along side their 3 core games. Just not sure what that would be.
@OldGamer999 yeah i think that is a good strategy. Launch first with some killer games and build up some momentum and then keep a killer title back for when PS6 launches to keep some hype around Xbox. Should be all good. Happy to hear them continue to double down on more hardware is coming.i prefer their ecosystem more than the others.
I played around 12 matches online this month and it was still very fun. Some newer maps i haven’t played. Gameplay is very good, they just didn’t have the content drops early. Otherwise a very good Halo game.
@Fiendish-Beaver just happy you are alive and well my friend. Gaming is a great hobby. I just did my outdoor hobby this morning which is bass fishing and wow is my arm sore from casting. Probably hit up the Xbox here in a few.
@OldGamer999 i just watched a video and it leaked that last week Phil Spencer pulled a in house MS meeting with all the teams and said we are NOT leaving the console hardware market and plan to be around another 10-15 years with hardware and games. So unless that changes and i don’t think it will cause they are going to rake in cash on the studios here soon. We will have a Xbox until we are old with arthritis in our hands and fingers.
@OldGamer999 We’ve been waiting. I want Marcus Fenix collection and then Gears 6. That would give us plenty of Gears to play for a long while. Time will tell, i have a feeling for better or worse we find out this June.
@OldGamer999 the same for me i would go Series X controller and then the Switch Pro then Dial Sense. I mean console sales matter and of course getting great content on the box matters. But funny enough with Sony having nothing for 2024, at the end of this year it could be the Xbox with the most exclusives. For all the Doom and Gloom we could have the most to play on Series consoles. Plus we don’t know about June showcase yet, so maybe even more to come in 24 and early 25. So things can change and normally do in this industry. MS has around 40 studios at work. So let’s see what we get and if we don’t get Gears of War Marcus Fenix collection i am going to throw a fit. Just saying.. Haha 😀
@armondo36 they didn’t own it to make more is the problem. When BD came out MS owned less than 3 studios. They were paying for dev’s to create for them. Now they own a lot of IP’s so i am sure we will be seeing loads of sequels from well received games.
@OldGamer999 I agree it would be a business decision. I also agree since 360 the Xbox has struggled to get its footing on the console space in the way we want and i think even they had planned. The thing is for me, i still love the controller, i still love the Ui outside of the Ad’s. It’s still where i prefer to play most games and forget about the business side of it. I think since talking about video games is such a big deal today we have forgotten how to just enjoy what we enjoy and let the business do what it does. It’s good to be informed of course. But i have to remind myself to live for today and what makes me happy at the moment and not worry about 2-5 years from now. As long as Xbox has a way to play the games i like and the controller and online experience with my friends i care to enjoy then i am going to be there. As i like to say if i survived the Wii-U i can find the fun in anything if i try.
@OldGamer999 Bingo. And remember it was Phil that went to them and said let’s not get rid of console gaming. Oh and by the way we need close to 100 billion dollars for studios for content to compete. So i am sure when they hand over 100 Billion dollars it’s not just one person’s (Phil) say. I know you know that, but many others don’t. Phil loves gaming and Phil loves Xbox. We are all human and make mistakes but for my money he is trying and the console business and gaming in general is a very hard line to walk.
I’ll say early 2026. Rockstar isn’t afraid to delay their games to get them to the point they feel safe to release. Not to mention it doesn’t hurt that GTA5 still prints money. So not like their feet is held to any fire pre say.
I’ll even throw in Red Dead as another source of great income to Rockstar. I believe GTA6 get’s a small delay.
I’ll stick to my Series X i got now even tho i havent bought a disk in 10 years. There’s just nothing here new for me. I DO however want the revised controller if it’s still coming and I’d snag two on day one. Sadly no leaks on that controller tells me they might keep it for next gen, hope I’m wrong.
@Fiendish-Beaver i agree with that in terms of Phil is just the messenger. The higher up’s at MS just spend around 100 Billion cash on all the studios they bought up. They want a quicker plan as to how to get the cash coming in and it might not be growing GP one person at a time. I still think they do come out with another console but it won’t be the console we know now. It will be much different. Sony and Nintendo will continue doing what they are doing cause well it’s working, for now at least. I have all 3 and a Mac computer and an iPad. So i don’t PC game and have a little interest in it but not much. Honestly these days i just want good games and where they land isn’t that important to me. I know what i like from Nintendo, so thats all good. PS5 has been my most used PS since the PS2. However i still don’t love their controllers but Dual Sense is better than any Dual shock for me. I’m a controller snob. It’s what lets me interact with the worlds and characters dev’s create. Some will say it’s not a big deal to them and thats fine, but for me the Xbox controller is still king. Hope they are around for a long time to come, but you make a great point in saying 2 years is a long time away. Heck in this business a month is a long time. I respect the heck out of you and your takes and always have, but I’m hoping your wrong on your feeling. But if you were right, i wouldn’t be surprised.
@Fiendish-Beaver not sure they do that to be honest. They are releasing a next gen console and maybe a handheld alongside it. I do think they will go back to the OG Xbox plan and make it more of a PC. Rumor is MS is looking to go with Intel and NVIDA in the next Xbox. So i think Xbox hardware goes back to being a PC in console form. There is little reason for them to leave hardware at the moment but the moment cloud is a major player for the causal gamer, then i could see them saying Xbox is cloud and PC only. Not saying you are wrong, heck anything could happen in this industry and we all know that. But i think they stick around the hardware game for another 10 years as other tech and trends continue to play out.
@NEStalgia the branded earbuds were for sure odd. Yeah Steam is good at what they do and thats not making controllers. I had no interest in their box. But if they and MS team up it could be really good. Time will tell but i think the next Xbox is going to really shake things up and as you have said go back to the vision of PC
Not in love with it in white. But if they don’t release that rumored controller, i am going to be really mad. Just for the quieter buttons alone i want it. But i am sure the hardware team is all hands on deck for the handheld and then next gen hardware. So they throw this white series X out and call it done for this generation could be the play at hand here. Series S owners should watch out for any trade in promos to get this series X.
@NEStalgia my PS5 Pro excitement has cooled a bit. Once i seen that that couldn’t overclock the CPU to 20% i was like this isn’t what i need. I am fine with today’s graphics but i want 60 fps. The Pro won’t cut it. So i am sure i will get one just cause i can sell mine for 50% or so of the cost. But it’s not as exciting of an upgrade as i would have hoped for. Yeah i think if Steam did that same thing today it would take off. But at it’s time and the way it was delivered it just didn’t catch. Nvida and intel is rumored to be the choice for the next Xbox and i hope it’s true. It would set some separation from Xbox and PS. But time will tell if the money matches the enthusiasm from MS.
@NEStalgia long story short for MS. Go back to intel and Nvida. Leave AMD to Sony. This gives the Xbox an advantage of better computing capabilities. Open up the PC branding of Xbox and windows working together like they intended from the start. Let more mouse and keyboard games onto the Xbox (world of Warcraft) i mean WOW on my Tv would be a happy day and something PS can’t do. I am considering selling my 55 inch LG C2 Oled and downsizing to a 42 to sit closer and try and get myself more into a PC gamer mindset. I have since the launch of this gen been on a 65 and 55 inch LG Oled. Time to downsize, and i really want to see Xbox leverage their advantages. All this doom and gloom and somehow i still love my Series X. Sure they need some big games to hit and they have a few this year even tho they aren’t ones i care much for. But… if that Marcus Fenix Gears of war collection is real. I won’t touch my PS or switch for a year.
@MrMagic @cragis0001 “again Sony released the PSP Go years before the digital Xbox One & now has the PS5 digital. Sony wanted to charge second hand gamers a fee to play there first party games online like EA with there online pass back in 2010 but abandoned the idea. Again the idea was before the Xbox One release”
I mean this is true and in the end the Xbox one vision become the normal the next gen after in more ways than one. All companies want more profit margins and less overhead. Digital does that.
@MrMagic i wouldn’t be if i were you, here’ why. As much as we all agree Nintendo just does their own thing and marches to the beat of their own drum for better or worse. This is what MS is trying to do with the Xbox. Go their own different way and carve a path for them. So if Sony plans to stick to the traditional console experience than that is their path and we have 3 different ways to play and that is good. There is little reason for MS to chase Sony the same reason Nintendo decided not to in the end. Gives us more options and i find it to be more of a good thing than a bad. Thats just my take of course. 😊
@MrMagic traditional console gaming is killing itself. Xbox is just part of it not the main reason. I didn’t say you said it was MS fault for Sony’s weak profits, but it proves the point that the traditional console market is even hard for them and they are the leaders in it. Xbox pushing an all digital market is tied to where the industry is going and of course options of how and where to play the games. Sony launched an all digital console and their numbers show 75% or more of their players are buying digital. PC has been digital forever and of course so has mobile gaming. Players that want to hold onto physical media are a small faction to the industry now and while i hope it sticks around for a few more years for them. It’s on life support as even big box retail stores don’t see the profit in stocking it on their sales floors.
@NEStalgia 100% agree with you. I said a while ago MS and Sony battling for the same customer was always trying to feed a family of 5 with 2 pieces of bread. Meaning the hardcore market is small and this is why mobile gaming is so big. Cause there is 10,000 people that pick up candy crush on their iPhones for 20-30 mins a day for every 1 hardcore gamer like ourselves. Consoles are already PC’s in a box minus the software. So all MS is doing is leveraging their software (windows) and other store fronts. Which is smart. I agree with the potatoe PC being a huge number cause again it proves Phil’s point. Most younger gamers now want a device that does more than play games and can be taken anywhere and not locked to a room and a certain tv. Hence consoles aren’t growing and they are selling to the same age group that has been buying them since the 90’s. I like the idea of MS going back to the PC side of things and i think the console space is on life support until cloud is good enough to take a huge section of gamers away from it. I have been saying for years the future will be cloud and Pc. It caters perfectly to the two types of gamers. Cloud isn’t ready yet so console still seems like the next best place and thats great for now. I like that the industry is shifting, I’m excited to see what Xbox does now more than ever cause they are now in position with all their studios to take chances and have games to bring in money to support those chances they are taking. Meanwhile on PS we know what we are going to get after all the cancelled GAAS games. It’s back to one and done single player games that have a budget and used game market issue. Nintendo Switch 2 is a wild card cause at some point players are going to want better online and features. Forget power, Nintendo has proven time and time again they make fun games and power don’t matter for those games. But younger crowds love social and interactive online features that Nintendo is like 15-20 years behind on.
@Fiendish-Beaver MS wants to be where the younger crowd of players are. Mid 30’s to 40 year old players are still a bulk of console sales and thats why it’s not growing. Most younger teens are happy with a cheaper laptop or mobile. Not a $500 dollar box they can only play games on and only in one spot of the house. I have been saying for a few years now that the future is cloud and PC. cloud for the basic play once in a while gamer and PC for the hardcore gamer. Cloud isn’t ready to replace console just yet. So MS is just waiting it out cause they can afford to and Sony is wondering how much of a console drop off will they see when it happens. If MS turns Xbox back into a PC and it runs everything that would be about the most future proof plan they’ve had in a while in my opinion.
@MrMagic Xbox was made in the first place to get windows into more homes and blur the lines a little between PC and console. Looks like they are coming back to that after not getting it right in just the walled garden console market. Everyone wants to put Sony’s mistakes on MS or Xbox. MS didn’t tell Sony to make a near 300 million dollar super hero game that Marvel takes a cut from. Sony’s 2 biggest problems are they don’t know how to make multiplayer games or refuse to and stick to one and done trade in single player titles and problem number 2 is their fans only want one and done trade in single player games. So i am not sure what Sony can do to help their rising costs of development. Cancelling all their work on online games didn’t help them either cause now there is a gap in in house developed games. Again none of this is MS’s fault. The same it’s not Sony fault MS launched the One and upset its fan base they built with 360.
@Cikajovazmaj MS budget will be more than ok due to the ABK money that is coming in. But certain studios within MS have to make sure their budgets are in line with what they are creating. Overall the industry is coming adjusting to an odd time in recent world history with the covid lockdowns. Then the other part is just not having good leadership and keeping projects in line and on budget. I do think it will settle down again at some point. But the only thing the tech industry is known for is constant change and the video game industry has been changing since the first day it arrived.
@MrMagic it looks like it for sure as a push to PC. I don’t know if MS is trying to do anything to the PS. Sony has to figure out their budgets, if they do that they can keep to their walled garden and do really well as they are still the console name worldwide. But Sony themselves had said they are coming to PC. Well if they are doing that then they are in Microsoft’s world a little and they know that.
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Re: Random: Gears Of War Creator Reminds Fans He Can't Revive Games He Doesn't Have Rights To
MS has to know that there are millions and millions of fans like me asking for the Marcus Fenix collection in UE5. All the multiplayer and modes. Not to mention it will pull in new players for the upcoming show. Gears 6 can take its time and we all win.
Re: Xbox Doubles Down On Highly Ambitious Plans For Next-Gen Hardware
@Grumblevolcano their messaging has been poor on a lot of things i would say. I am just saying MS want’s to sell GP and they aren’t bringing GP to PS, so they need to be careful giving away the bigger franchises to Sony. Not saying it won’t happen cause well MS does MS things. But i think they are going to be very case by case games and not just here’s everything. But at the moment there is still very much a reason to have a Xbox for their games. We can’t just turn on our PS5 and play every Xbox game. 😀
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia agreed on both fronts. One the value of the digital Series X is great for gamers but hard to create marketing buzz around and two the PR speech of Sony and MS aren’t great. This is an industry where talk is cheap tho. Let the games do the talking and i think MS has the edge in June. I will throw my $1300 dollar iPad Pro to the ceiling in joy if they announce Gears of War Marcus Fenix collection in June and show Gears 6 both in UE5. Sony don’t have a game that i would be that excited for.
I think Pro’s sell ok for who they are marketed too and also due to the fact they are more expensive and have half the lifespan. Not saying they are a catch all do it right. But i ran with the One X and PS4 Pro and found them to be better for me and my style. Not sure about PS5 Pro tho. If it can’t hit 60 across the board i will be half as excited for it.
Re: Diablo 4 Gets New Lease Of Life On Xbox Thanks To Successful Game Pass Launch
Pushing 700 hours on D4 and still haven’t beaten Uber Lilith yet. Still a top 3 favorite franchise of mine if you can’t tell by the hours played 😀
Re: Xbox Doubles Down On Highly Ambitious Plans For Next-Gen Hardware
Please say they are going back to Intel and NVIDA. AMD is trash with machine learning and AI. Let Sony and AMD play with that tech and jump back into the real power. That alone would make them more powerful and explain the comment about the team making sure games work well on next gen Xbox’s.
Re: Xbox Doubles Down On Highly Ambitious Plans For Next-Gen Hardware
@Grumblevolcano thats strange i just booted up my PS5 and i didn’t see Halo Gears or Forza on there. Silly me but i guess i need to turn on my Xbox to play those. Joking aside we still don’t know what exclusives will or won’t come to PS and we for sure don’t know what benefits this new gen console will bring to games.
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia i fully agree that i like to hear MS doubling down on backwards compatibility and game preservation. Thats such a strong part of Xbox. I am excited and confused on what their next console looks like. But i hope we get to see that handheld soon. However i really hope the leaked pics of a white digital series X isn’t true. I don’t see that doing anything positive for the brand. Digital foundry ripped it and many others are saying whats the point. However i like Sarah Bond continuing to say big leap next gen, i think that is MS’s way of saying forget about the Pro console we don’t have and other’s do. Next gen is going to be the place to be and if it is coming in 2026 then all the better. Interesting times ahead. I am hoping they nail the June showcase and really start to flex all those studios and show they have loads of games in development.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Reveals Confirmed Ahead Of June's Xbox Showcase
I hope we see the revised controller. I really want to buy a few of them. Hope it’s more premium feeling and of course quiet.
Re: Xbox Establishes New Team Dedicated To 'Game Preservation And Forward Compatibility'
@Grumblevolcano they might go with an external add on disc drive for a while. As disc drives get harder and harder to get it’s going to be a problem at some point in time. Digital going forward should be fairly easy to manage. Good to see them trying as it is important 😊
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia the moment i seen Switch i was like this works cause i think it’s what they sort of had in mind for Wii U but there were some limits in tech or they just didn’t have the idea and vision fully ironed out. Now i won’t say i knew it would sell 140 million. I expected upper 80’s to 90’s seeing as it plays into their strengths with handheld. Plus not having to develop separate games.
It’s going to be up to the dev’s to make sure games like the last of Us don’t launch on PC in a bad state. They need to stop thinking the brute power of PC will iron out the lack of optimization consoles need. Plus games like GTA6 in the future need to be there day one and not locked to a PS console. That game is going to be such an attraction for consoles as it will be the only place it’s at. I said it once and i repeat i am just a little confused how all this is going to look. I like the sound of it, i think it makes sense from what i can get my head around. But i want to see what consumers think. What dev’s do to make sure games are running well across the board. I mean the Series S upset so many dev’s, yet PC has 100’s of configurations if not a 1000. Maybe i am just getting old and tech is starting to take a turn on me that i need to see and feel to say yeah thats the one i want and like. As always i enjoy our chats, your knowledge and insight. I always learn something talking with you. Sorry i am out on a limb on this at the moment. I guess i just need to see more of what MS has in store. If the Xbox Deck is real, i buy that day one but the rumor was they would also have a under the Tv console to go alongside it. That is what i want to see what it is.
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia i agree with some of that. My push back would be if Sony can still sell close to 100 million units and we don’t know yet if they can or not or for how long. They will be making good money and have plenty of support for the console from dev’s. Same with Nintendo, another 100 million switch 2’s and they will get some kind of support. MS selling launcher skins on PC might work but only if it has Steam of course cause thats where that player base has 100’s of games at. Hence the Steam Deck was a good idea. I do agree that the time is now for MS to bring out a handheld, i actually think it could do fairly well for them. But in the console space or PC with a Xbox skin over the Ui, i am just not sure about that. I guess i like the idea so i want to say yes to it. But i am not sure the console experience purists won’t just go to PS or an actually PC running Steam. You are talking from the business side of it and i largely agree, i am more coming from the consumer side and i have questions on that strategy. Hope it works out. I like Xbox and would hate to see them not pushing something forward in the industry. I know the CEO wants no exclusives and to stop losing so much on console unit sales. So this approach seems to fit that.
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia ok Beer goggles off and my mind is still thinking the same way, only had a few. Haha let’s dive in. I want to say first that MS has done such a poor job with their messaging that every week a leak or a game release rumor on PS5 is making it harder and harder to see the road forward for a Xbox Console. I get what you are saying they can just rebrand Xbox as a PC but that would just lump them into the crowded PC market where Steam is king and still having MS fighting for table scraps. Something i think that is true is the console market isn’t growing but it’s not shrinking yet either. PS5 will still hit over 100 million and likely so will switch 2. The only market shrinking is MS’s cause of no games at launch. Then a messy release of Halo. Then a dud with Redfall and since then i feel like it’s been swimming up river. Down almost 50% in Europe. PS is 5.7 million ahead in USA and while i do like the whole play games anywhere. Gamers like us think thats great but 7 out of 10 gamers see that as weakness and MS needing PS to succeed going forward so why not just stick to PS. I even seem some on this site say if such and such games go to PS5 they are selling their Xbox and just playing on PS. At what point does MS look at Xbox and say we are out of toes to shoot off? Let’s say the future of PS shrinks some and it’s only 75-90 million consoles worldwide plus PC day and date. That would be enough with smart budgeting to make it more than worth sticking around. I agree with a lot of your points but a lot of good things would have to happen for MS to make that even worth it and for gamers to care. Steam on Xbox would be cool, not sure the legal implications to make that work. Would that be a court case as well? I don’t see Nintendo going mobile only cause of how much Nintendo values making their hardware a certain why that impacts the characters they develop and how the games are played. Plus Nintendo sells loads of consoles at a profit. Think that is safe for a long while for them. Throw in the extra money they are getting with the movies and theme parks and they seem to be the last one standing if i had to bet. I get what you mean about the hardware runs the store but spitting store money with steam seems odd if they go the windows PC Xbox. I guess i am just confused on this change coming to the industry. Normally i can understand the industry changes better. This one just seems like MS trying to hang on and of course i want them to right the ship and find their groove. But the market just seems to cast them aside outside of the 35-40 million hardcore fans like ourselves. Which at the moment would have Series consoles performing worse than Xbox One. Which i never seen coming. I’m just babbling now, but overall i am just confused as to how this is going to look, work and go over with players. If we see Halo, Gears and Forza on PS5, i am not sure any PC skin looking to be a Xbox moves the needle for them that much. Keeps them in the hardware game sure. Just trying to think if I’d support that or not. Probably.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Reveals Confirmed Ahead Of June's Xbox Showcase
@nomither6 thats what i would think also. Plus at this point it might be the only Gears game we get on Series, if Gears 6 really is closer to 2026 or 2027. Then it could launch on the newer hardware. So clearly it would make sense to have something for Gears fans. I am even hoping the collection comes out this year or the latest early 2025. Plus i want that new controller so we can hear the chainsaw in the controller.
Re: Rumour: Multiple Reveals Confirmed Ahead Of June's Xbox Showcase
Just announce Gears of war Marcus Fenix collection and i am head over heels for the showcase. The other stiff seems fine and will live on GP and do well. But Gears of War collection is my game of the generation any console hands down. A Quake reboot wouldn’t hurt my feelings but i am sure ID is working on the next Doom game.
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia I’ll do my best to tackle your well made points. One i don’t think Sony would raise the 30%, cause they were built on mostly good relations with 3rd party. To do that would surely damage relationships. Yes MS has a few bones to chew on to stay in the console market. But it’s seeming more and more like table scraps at this point in time than the meat and potatoes they are chasing. Sure kids will buy expensive graphics cards cause they can stream and work and play and do all sorts of things with it that they can’t do on a console. Outside of Apple closed walled gardens are being left behind for do it all devices. As for AAA gaming i think it will live on for years to come but become less risky and of course much slower to market. Sure PS and Xbox want a few AAA games at launch or console end to start and end on high notes. But i am not sure we will see a ton of AAA as MS once said 4 a year. This year is already at the 1/4th mark and we have seen nothing of sorts from MS. This industry changes all the time as any other tech industry. But for as much as it changes it stays the same. Gamers want to be where the games are and they flock to the most golden egg games. It’s no longer Mario vs Sonic or Halo vs Killzone. Mascot’s no longer lead the platforms. It’s where do i get my best bang for the buck and what does my neighbors and friends play on. At the moment that is Mobile, PS and PC. Xbox needs to figure a way to become that next golden egg that people seek after. HellBlade and Avowed aren’t the games that move that needle. Put Gears of War and Halo on PS5 and there’s no turning it around. Unless they want to be the masters of turning table scraps into 5 course meals. Funny how beer makes me use analogies that i feel we have built a friendship into understanding. 😀🍺
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia Meanwhile Apple will be leading still in games revenue on Mobile as not even the PC out gain’s mobile gaming. I still think the future in 1-2 gens is Mobile, PC and cloud with consoles being a niche thing for people that prefer it or need it due to cloud infrastructure being an issue. No one under the age of 25 hardly wants to buy a $500 dollar box that only plays games. 80’s-90’s and some early 2000’s kids are keeping consoles going. Kid’s born after 2005 or so are not into consoles like we were as kids and Phil has lightly touched on this. Apple and Google products are just way more desirable to kids and young adults than MS products.
Re: Xbox CVP Kareem Choudhry Set To Leave Microsoft After 26 Years
@NEStalgia over on Push they have a article that says leaks are saying that if Sea of Thieves does well on PS5 , MS will be bringing over more game to the PS5 including possibly Gears of War and Starfield. Well if they are going to do that than i am not sure why they would even make more hardware as PS would be the console version of a PC, that runs all games from all companies. The only games Sony and PC would be missing is Nintendo as i see world peace before Nintendo brings Mario Kart to other consoles.
Re: Rumour: Gears 6 Could Appear At The Xbox Showcase This Summer
@Weapon_Wheel same here. I will play Gears 6 when it comes out of course. But i want the Marcus Fenix Collection first and way more. I love the first 3 games and to have the online multiplayer back with full lobbies is my dream Series X game. Hope it get’s revealed with a release date and then they can say something cheesy like but wait there’s more and go into the Gears 6 trailer.
Re: Xbox's Official New 'Nocturnal Vapor' Controller Launches Next Week
I like this one a lot but i am waiting for the rumored new controller.
Re: Which Activision Blizzard Game Do You Want Next On Xbox Game Pass?
World of Warcraft even tho i know that is HIGHLY unlikely to ever happen. I have all the Diablo games and i sort of play COD online until it makes me so mad i have to sit it down and lose all the skills I’ve gained.
Re: Deals: This Week's Xbox Sales Include A Few Classics From The 360 Era
@Sakko yeah it’s normally the same old games on sale. I suppose there isn’t much new games to discount. Only thing i am excited for in gaming is the Xbox June Showcase and i want to see if they release the updated controller. Otherwise I’ll just stay the the games i am grinding on now. Well… unless that Final Fantasy 16 to Xbox rumor is true. I would get that even tho i have it on PS5.
Re: Deals: This Week's Xbox Sales Include A Few Classics From The 360 Era
@Sakko I was wondering that myself. On my Ps5 the Spring Sales started but not on my Series X. I don’t have steam but sounds like even they are live. There’s not to much i need but i like to at least look.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@Fiendish-Beaver i actually never did try any of those games as I’m afraid i will get addicted to it like i am in real life. I used to play Super Black Bass on the Super NES when I was young.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 yeah they need to capitalize on Sony and Nintendo being quiet this year. Plus outside of Switch 2, i don’t think Sony and for sure MS don’t have a game that can over shadow GTA 6 if it comes out in 2025. I honestly think Sony is just going to throw out some more marvel titles and wait for GTA6. Unless we see something with Naughty Dog. All their other studios seem to be coming off canceled projects and probably need more time. At the June showcase we need to see Perfect Dark, Fable and Gears 6 all looking next gen.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 i can agree with that. We need some killer titles on Xbox for sure. I think once we see Gears 6, Fable and a few others we will see the power of the Series . Heck even Hell Blade 2 looks crazy good. Xbox needs to create something big to go along side their 3 core games. Just not sure what that would be.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 yeah i think that is a good strategy. Launch first with some killer games and build up some momentum and then keep a killer title back for when PS6 launches to keep some hype around Xbox. Should be all good. Happy to hear them continue to double down on more hardware is coming.i prefer their ecosystem more than the others.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Fans, Are You Still Enjoying Halo Infinite In 2024?
I played around 12 matches online this month and it was still very fun. Some newer maps i haven’t played. Gameplay is very good, they just didn’t have the content drops early. Otherwise a very good Halo game.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@Fiendish-Beaver just happy you are alive and well my friend. Gaming is a great hobby. I just did my outdoor hobby this morning which is bass fishing and wow is my arm sore from casting. Probably hit up the Xbox here in a few.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 i just watched a video and it leaked that last week Phil Spencer pulled a in house MS meeting with all the teams and said we are NOT leaving the console hardware market and plan to be around another 10-15 years with hardware and games. So unless that changes and i don’t think it will cause they are going to rake in cash on the studios here soon. We will have a Xbox until we are old with arthritis in our hands and fingers.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 We’ve been waiting. I want Marcus Fenix collection and then Gears 6. That would give us plenty of Gears to play for a long while. Time will tell, i have a feeling for better or worse we find out this June.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 the same for me i would go Series X controller and then the Switch Pro then Dial Sense. I mean console sales matter and of course getting great content on the box matters. But funny enough with Sony having nothing for 2024, at the end of this year it could be the Xbox with the most exclusives. For all the Doom and Gloom we could have the most to play on Series consoles. Plus we don’t know about June showcase yet, so maybe even more to come in 24 and early 25. So things can change and normally do in this industry. MS has around 40 studios at work. So let’s see what we get and if we don’t get Gears of War Marcus Fenix collection i am going to throw a fit. Just saying.. Haha 😀
Re: Xbox Honors Akira Toriyama With Free 'Blue Dragon' Dynamic Background
@armondo36 they didn’t own it to make more is the problem. When BD came out MS owned less than 3 studios. They were paying for dev’s to create for them. Now they own a lot of IP’s so i am sure we will be seeing loads of sequels from well received games.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 I agree it would be a business decision. I also agree since 360 the Xbox has struggled to get its footing on the console space in the way we want and i think even they had planned. The thing is for me, i still love the controller, i still love the Ui outside of the Ad’s. It’s still where i prefer to play most games and forget about the business side of it. I think since talking about video games is such a big deal today we have forgotten how to just enjoy what we enjoy and let the business do what it does. It’s good to be informed of course. But i have to remind myself to live for today and what makes me happy at the moment and not worry about 2-5 years from now. As long as Xbox has a way to play the games i like and the controller and online experience with my friends i care to enjoy then i am going to be there. As i like to say if i survived the Wii-U i can find the fun in anything if i try.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates 10 Years As Head Of Xbox This Weekend
@OldGamer999 Bingo. And remember it was Phil that went to them and said let’s not get rid of console gaming. Oh and by the way we need close to 100 billion dollars for studios for content to compete. So i am sure when they hand over 100 Billion dollars it’s not just one person’s (Phil) say. I know you know that, but many others don’t. Phil loves gaming and Phil loves Xbox. We are all human and make mistakes but for my money he is trying and the console business and gaming in general is a very hard line to walk.
Re: GTA 6 'Sources' Share Their Thoughts As Fears Grow Of A Delay To 2026
I’ll say early 2026. Rockstar isn’t afraid to delay their games to get them to the point they feel safe to release. Not to mention it doesn’t hurt that GTA5 still prints money. So not like their feet is held to any fire pre say.
I’ll even throw in Red Dead as another source of great income to Rockstar. I believe GTA6 get’s a small delay.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Be Interested In Microsoft's White Xbox Series X Revision?
I’ll stick to my Series X i got now even tho i havent bought a disk in 10 years. There’s just nothing here new for me. I DO however want the revised controller if it’s still coming and I’d snag two on day one. Sadly no leaks on that controller tells me they might keep it for next gen, hope I’m wrong.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@Fiendish-Beaver i agree with that in terms of Phil is just the messenger. The higher up’s at MS just spend around 100 Billion cash on all the studios they bought up. They want a quicker plan as to how to get the cash coming in and it might not be growing GP one person at a time. I still think they do come out with another console but it won’t be the console we know now. It will be much different. Sony and Nintendo will continue doing what they are doing cause well it’s working, for now at least. I have all 3 and a Mac computer and an iPad. So i don’t PC game and have a little interest in it but not much. Honestly these days i just want good games and where they land isn’t that important to me. I know what i like from Nintendo, so thats all good. PS5 has been my most used PS since the PS2. However i still don’t love their controllers but Dual Sense is better than any Dual shock for me. I’m a controller snob. It’s what lets me interact with the worlds and characters dev’s create. Some will say it’s not a big deal to them and thats fine, but for me the Xbox controller is still king. Hope they are around for a long time to come, but you make a great point in saying 2 years is a long time away. Heck in this business a month is a long time. I respect the heck out of you and your takes and always have, but I’m hoping your wrong on your feeling. But if you were right, i wouldn’t be surprised.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@Fiendish-Beaver not sure they do that to be honest. They are releasing a next gen console and maybe a handheld alongside it. I do think they will go back to the OG Xbox plan and make it more of a PC. Rumor is MS is looking to go with Intel and NVIDA in the next Xbox. So i think Xbox hardware goes back to being a PC in console form. There is little reason for them to leave hardware at the moment but the moment cloud is a major player for the causal gamer, then i could see them saying Xbox is cloud and PC only. Not saying you are wrong, heck anything could happen in this industry and we all know that. But i think they stick around the hardware game for another 10 years as other tech and trends continue to play out.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@NEStalgia the branded earbuds were for sure odd. Yeah Steam is good at what they do and thats not making controllers. I had no interest in their box. But if they and MS team up it could be really good. Time will tell but i think the next Xbox is going to really shake things up and as you have said go back to the vision of PC
Re: Leaked Images Reveal 'First Look' At White, All-Digital Xbox Series X
Not in love with it in white. But if they don’t release that rumored controller, i am going to be really mad. Just for the quieter buttons alone i want it. But i am sure the hardware team is all hands on deck for the handheld and then next gen hardware. So they throw this white series X out and call it done for this generation could be the play at hand here. Series S owners should watch out for any trade in promos to get this series X.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@NEStalgia my PS5 Pro excitement has cooled a bit. Once i seen that that couldn’t overclock the CPU to 20% i was like this isn’t what i need. I am fine with today’s graphics but i want 60 fps. The Pro won’t cut it. So i am sure i will get one just cause i can sell mine for 50% or so of the cost. But it’s not as exciting of an upgrade as i would have hoped for. Yeah i think if Steam did that same thing today it would take off. But at it’s time and the way it was delivered it just didn’t catch. Nvida and intel is rumored to be the choice for the next Xbox and i hope it’s true. It would set some separation from Xbox and PS. But time will tell if the money matches the enthusiasm from MS.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@NEStalgia long story short for MS. Go back to intel and Nvida. Leave AMD to Sony. This gives the Xbox an advantage of better computing capabilities. Open up the PC branding of Xbox and windows working together like they intended from the start. Let more mouse and keyboard games onto the Xbox (world of Warcraft) i mean WOW on my Tv would be a happy day and something PS can’t do. I am considering selling my 55 inch LG C2 Oled and downsizing to a 42 to sit closer and try and get myself more into a PC gamer mindset. I have since the launch of this gen been on a 65 and 55 inch LG Oled. Time to downsize, and i really want to see Xbox leverage their advantages. All this doom and gloom and somehow i still love my Series X. Sure they need some big games to hit and they have a few this year even tho they aren’t ones i care much for. But… if that Marcus Fenix Gears of war collection is real. I won’t touch my PS or switch for a year.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@MrMagic @cragis0001 “again Sony released the PSP Go years before the digital Xbox One & now has the PS5 digital. Sony wanted to charge second hand gamers a fee to play there first party games online like EA with there online pass back in 2010 but abandoned the idea. Again the idea was before the Xbox One release”
I mean this is true and in the end the Xbox one vision become the normal the next gen after in more ways than one. All companies want more profit margins and less overhead. Digital does that.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@MrMagic i wouldn’t be if i were you, here’ why. As much as we all agree Nintendo just does their own thing and marches to the beat of their own drum for better or worse. This is what MS is trying to do with the Xbox. Go their own different way and carve a path for them. So if Sony plans to stick to the traditional console experience than that is their path and we have 3 different ways to play and that is good. There is little reason for MS to chase Sony the same reason Nintendo decided not to in the end. Gives us more options and i find it to be more of a good thing than a bad. Thats just my take of course. 😊
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@MrMagic traditional console gaming is killing itself. Xbox is just part of it not the main reason. I didn’t say you said it was MS fault for Sony’s weak profits, but it proves the point that the traditional console market is even hard for them and they are the leaders in it. Xbox pushing an all digital market is tied to where the industry is going and of course options of how and where to play the games. Sony launched an all digital console and their numbers show 75% or more of their players are buying digital. PC has been digital forever and of course so has mobile gaming. Players that want to hold onto physical media are a small faction to the industry now and while i hope it sticks around for a few more years for them. It’s on life support as even big box retail stores don’t see the profit in stocking it on their sales floors.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@NEStalgia 100% agree with you. I said a while ago MS and Sony battling for the same customer was always trying to feed a family of 5 with 2 pieces of bread. Meaning the hardcore market is small and this is why mobile gaming is so big. Cause there is 10,000 people that pick up candy crush on their iPhones for 20-30 mins a day for every 1 hardcore gamer like ourselves. Consoles are already PC’s in a box minus the software. So all MS is doing is leveraging their software (windows) and other store fronts. Which is smart. I agree with the potatoe PC being a huge number cause again it proves Phil’s point. Most younger gamers now want a device that does more than play games and can be taken anywhere and not locked to a room and a certain tv. Hence consoles aren’t growing and they are selling to the same age group that has been buying them since the 90’s. I like the idea of MS going back to the PC side of things and i think the console space is on life support until cloud is good enough to take a huge section of gamers away from it. I have been saying for years the future will be cloud and Pc. It caters perfectly to the two types of gamers. Cloud isn’t ready yet so console still seems like the next best place and thats great for now. I like that the industry is shifting, I’m excited to see what Xbox does now more than ever cause they are now in position with all their studios to take chances and have games to bring in money to support those chances they are taking. Meanwhile on PS we know what we are going to get after all the cancelled GAAS games. It’s back to one and done single player games that have a budget and used game market issue. Nintendo Switch 2 is a wild card cause at some point players are going to want better online and features. Forget power, Nintendo has proven time and time again they make fun games and power don’t matter for those games. But younger crowds love social and interactive online features that Nintendo is like 15-20 years behind on.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@Fiendish-Beaver MS wants to be where the younger crowd of players are. Mid 30’s to 40 year old players are still a bulk of console sales and thats why it’s not growing. Most younger teens are happy with a cheaper laptop or mobile. Not a $500 dollar box they can only play games on and only in one spot of the house. I have been saying for a few years now that the future is cloud and PC. cloud for the basic play once in a while gamer and PC for the hardcore gamer. Cloud isn’t ready to replace console just yet. So MS is just waiting it out cause they can afford to and Sony is wondering how much of a console drop off will they see when it happens. If MS turns Xbox back into a PC and it runs everything that would be about the most future proof plan they’ve had in a while in my opinion.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@MrMagic Xbox was made in the first place to get windows into more homes and blur the lines a little between PC and console. Looks like they are coming back to that after not getting it right in just the walled garden console market. Everyone wants to put Sony’s mistakes on MS or Xbox. MS didn’t tell Sony to make a near 300 million dollar super hero game that Marvel takes a cut from. Sony’s 2 biggest problems are they don’t know how to make multiplayer games or refuse to and stick to one and done trade in single player titles and problem number 2 is their fans only want one and done trade in single player games. So i am not sure what Sony can do to help their rising costs of development. Cancelling all their work on online games didn’t help them either cause now there is a gap in in house developed games. Again none of this is MS’s fault. The same it’s not Sony fault MS launched the One and upset its fan base they built with 360.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@Cikajovazmaj MS budget will be more than ok due to the ABK money that is coming in. But certain studios within MS have to make sure their budgets are in line with what they are creating. Overall the industry is coming adjusting to an odd time in recent world history with the covid lockdowns. Then the other part is just not having good leadership and keeping projects in line and on budget. I do think it will settle down again at some point. But the only thing the tech industry is known for is constant change and the video game industry has been changing since the first day it arrived.
Re: Phil Spencer Would Like To See Other Digital Storefronts Appear On Xbox
@MrMagic it looks like it for sure as a push to PC. I don’t know if MS is trying to do anything to the PS. Sony has to figure out their budgets, if they do that they can keep to their walled garden and do really well as they are still the console name worldwide. But Sony themselves had said they are coming to PC. Well if they are doing that then they are in Microsoft’s world a little and they know that.