@eire-shabba That's my point, and that is more people than the critics complaining and the people you are talking about actually play the game. Notice how you can't have a constructive conversation about this. The trolls come out of everywhere to make sure Starfield looks as bad as possible.
@Widey85 I get what you are saying, but I have to disagree. Ubisoft has a formula that works for them. Just like EA has formula that works for them. Bethesda has a formula that has worked for them. I believe Starfield is truly a Bethesda game and that seems to be what you don't like about it. Elder Scrolls is up to what 6 games with Skyrim, Fallout up to 4 with some extra games, Starfield is the first of it's kind. Even Cyberpunk had it's issues at launch and is a much better game today than it was at launch. That being said, Bethesda isn't going to try and be something they are not, they are going to make a Bethesda game. I applaud them for being themselves, I'm sure they will take the criticisms and improve the game in patches no different than Cyberpunk did. I wouldn't expect them to ever un-Bethesda the game to be more like other games.
@Sol4ris Most of all that is planned propaganda from Sony. One thing they are great at is attacking rivals and engaging their base to blast their competition in hopes to stifle any progress on other platforms mainly Xbox. It's a great game that doesn't deserve the hyperbole criticism it's getting. People are upset Bethesda made a Bethesda game, those that enjoy Bethesda games for the most part are enjoying familiar gameplay in a new environment. I'm sure Microsoft is using most of this criticism to work on DLC and future Starfield games. The hate is only going to make the game better down the road. It's like people playing a new Mario or Zelda game and saying it takes them right back to playing the games of past but with new twists. Starfield really isn't any different, it feels like a Bethesda game in space. I actually believe most of this hate is coming more from the fact that it is a Microsoft exclusive and people being bitter about it.
To me it seems like in 4 years we will be not only paying $30/mo for less than we are getting today on Game Pass, it will be downgraded just like Games for Gold.
There will likely be more updates regardless. To be honest, most people with modern internet with decent speeds can download and install the game faster than the disc due to disc read speeds.
@theduckofdeath This is true and was short sighted. The big problems was basically Sony didn't like that they got one upped from the "eye toy" and then campaigned against it. With the PS4 Sony's whole slogan was how it did everything. The One X did everything then Sony changed their campaign to gaming first and for a short while ditched the eye toy. While saying that add-ons are gimmicks Sony released the PSVR. The Kinect was a very good device. I actually miss it.
Microsoft let Sony's marketing destroy the Kinect. A greatly missed opportunity. The Kinect was great for a lot of things even if it was clunky as a game controller.
@BacklogBrad It's an article about a digital sale. And all you had to contribute is how you prefer physical copies. We get it. Trolls gonna try to troll I guess.
@BacklogBrad Physical copies have to be swapped out. Can be damaged or lost as well. Why do physical media snobs have to say this in almost every article? Enjoy what you play and stop trying to be superior. It's just a personal preference, there is not right and wrong way to buy a game.
@Ryu_Niiyama It will install to your hard drive, you won't have to change discs mid game like the original FF7 and MGS. You will have to have the disc in the console in order to play the game though.
For me all the big titles didn't do as well as expected. This was a down year for Xbox. Prices raised for Game Pass and the content isn't improving. I gave it an E I think Xbox can do a lot better. 3 years later and still missing Velocity Architecture features we were promised at launch. This was the year Xbox was supposed to hit it out of the park with Starfield and Forza Motorsport and I believe those two titles exposed Xbox more than help it.
@Gabrielmpf I think this is one of my biggest disappointments coming from Horizon to a track focused game. I log in and it's the same stagnant tracks with what feels like like no incentive to play the game. I'm not sure adding 100 tracks and 1000 cars will fix this problem. They need to add something to the game that keeps you engaged.
@RBRTMNZ Example: I'm saying before the Beetles anthology came out, it was already #1 in the chart for the store selling it. If there had been no sales, that would make it a scam just to sell more copies, not that the album needed it. I was the guy who updated the display. It had nothing to do with sales of the product. It was who paid more for the top spot. It was a scam. Not whatever you came up with as a response to my comment.
The industry has some real hate for Microsoft. These awards are always scammy anyways and to be honest I would never use these lists as any input on deciding to buy a game.
I remember working for a record store a long time ago. When certain albums released they always put it in top albums even though not a single copy has been sold. At that point I never trusted marketing, it's all a scam.
3 years and the only promised feature we have gotten so far is quick resume and even that doesn't work right. I have to personally disagree with this article.
@ZYDIO If Microsoft does this, Nintendo may be the only viable console for many. I personally will never buy a anything Sony so Playstation is out of the mix. There won't be a reason to own an Xbox.
@OldGamer999 That's my guess. I ran through one tour twice not knowing I could level up in free play. I'm not sure the purpose of redoing a tour more than once. Perhaps to use different cars.
Please don't taint Xbox with twitter. Their lead ***** should stay far away from the gaming community. I hear Tesla stocks are falling rapidly. Perhaps he should focus on that.
@Kaloudz The campaign part gets crapped on every release. All the focus in on the online multiplayer content which is why I haven't played these style games in many years. Call of Duty is not the only game to fumble this.
@InterceptorAlpha You are doing a lot of assuming there with a bunch of made up numbers. The paper launch of the Playstation 5 and both Series consoles promised a lot more than we are getting. Direct storage would go a long way to free up the video memory needed.
@InterceptorAlpha In my honest opinion it is part of the publisher/developers fault for not jumping into the Velocity Architecture features. This little system would be a powerhouse if they just started implementing Direct Input when building a game.
I do game on PC as well. We're still in last gen in my opinion. Cyberpunk 2077 seems to be the pinnacle of the last generation. I'm excited to see some games run in Unreal Engine 5 though.
@HonestHick Direct Input is the pivotal point for real Next Gen gaming. It's what offloads the processing of the GPU and CPU to do more because the SSD is handling the physical assets. This console is 3 years old now and as you have confirmed there are zero titles utilizing it.
Quick resume is broken in most games, mostly first party games. Starfield's load times are horrible.
@Markatron84 Between that and a still broken AI and no offline play makes you wonder why they didn't take another year or two to make it work. I don't need to reaggravate myself with this monotonous series that went stale. Shining up crap, doesn't make it not crap. There are other better options for this style racing.
@Tharsman Lets cut them, so we can pay the developers more perhaps. Instead of giving us what they promised, they gave us t-shirts for decades old console.
@GASEOUS Some seem to hate the Microsoft Store, I don't understand why. This is one of the biggest benefits of the MS Store. I love Steam, will buy everything I can through there unless the game is a Play Anywhere title. It also may restrict people from playing Cloud based versions of games they have purchased as well. If it is locked behind Game Pass that's a pretty shady move by Microsoft. You either own the game or you don't.
@GuyinPA75 I'm thinking the same thing. Though it seems Fable is being built from the ground up (likely using Direct Storage, and other real Next Gen features). Elders Srcolls: 6 will likely be running on existing/modified "Starfield" engine.
@Mauzuri It is not in game content. Stuff you can probably find online pretty easily for free after release. It's just concept art / music for the most part, it's clearly stated as behind the scenes content.
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Re: Starfield 'A Tremendous Hit' And One Of Xbox's Top 10 Most-Played Games, Says Phil Spencer
@eire-shabba That's my point, and that is more people than the critics complaining and the people you are talking about actually play the game. Notice how you can't have a constructive conversation about this. The trolls come out of everywhere to make sure Starfield looks as bad as possible.
Re: Starfield 'A Tremendous Hit' And One Of Xbox's Top 10 Most-Played Games, Says Phil Spencer
@Widey85 I get what you are saying, but I have to disagree. Ubisoft has a formula that works for them. Just like EA has formula that works for them. Bethesda has a formula that has worked for them. I believe Starfield is truly a Bethesda game and that seems to be what you don't like about it. Elder Scrolls is up to what 6 games with Skyrim, Fallout up to 4 with some extra games, Starfield is the first of it's kind. Even Cyberpunk had it's issues at launch and is a much better game today than it was at launch. That being said, Bethesda isn't going to try and be something they are not, they are going to make a Bethesda game. I applaud them for being themselves, I'm sure they will take the criticisms and improve the game in patches no different than Cyberpunk did. I wouldn't expect them to ever un-Bethesda the game to be more like other games.
Re: Starfield 'A Tremendous Hit' And One Of Xbox's Top 10 Most-Played Games, Says Phil Spencer
@Sol4ris Most of all that is planned propaganda from Sony. One thing they are great at is attacking rivals and engaging their base to blast their competition in hopes to stifle any progress on other platforms mainly Xbox. It's a great game that doesn't deserve the hyperbole criticism it's getting. People are upset Bethesda made a Bethesda game, those that enjoy Bethesda games for the most part are enjoying familiar gameplay in a new environment. I'm sure Microsoft is using most of this criticism to work on DLC and future Starfield games. The hate is only going to make the game better down the road. It's like people playing a new Mario or Zelda game and saying it takes them right back to playing the games of past but with new twists. Starfield really isn't any different, it feels like a Bethesda game in space. I actually believe most of this hate is coming more from the fact that it is a Microsoft exclusive and people being bitter about it.
Re: Microsoft Rep Issues Statement In Response To MS Rewards Concerns
To me it seems like in 4 years we will be not only paying $30/mo for less than we are getting today on Game Pass, it will be downgraded just like Games for Gold.
Re: Capcom Has Officially Raised Its Prices With The Arrival Of Dragon's Dogma 2
@TanaDax Exactly, let the game cool off until you get it for a bargain on sale, same game with all the bugs fixed for a fraction of the cost.
Re: Killer Instinct: Anniversary Edition Update Goes Live This Week
@xanderten50 Already gone from the store.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3's Massive 'Patch 5' Will Be Included On The Xbox Disc
There will likely be more updates regardless. To be honest, most people with modern internet with decent speeds can download and install the game faster than the disc due to disc read speeds.
Re: Bethesda Has Started Responding To Negative User Reviews Of Starfield
@DonaldMcRonald Probably didn't take much more time than it took you to write your comment.
Re: Xbox Teases 'News You Don't Want To Miss' At The Game Awards 2023
Why do I get the feeling I'm going to miss it and not care...
Re: Talking Point: Remember When 'Project Milo' Was The Next Big Thing For Xbox?
@theduckofdeath This is true and was short sighted. The big problems was basically Sony didn't like that they got one upped from the "eye toy" and then campaigned against it. With the PS4 Sony's whole slogan was how it did everything. The One X did everything then Sony changed their campaign to gaming first and for a short while ditched the eye toy. While saying that add-ons are gimmicks Sony released the PSVR. The Kinect was a very good device. I actually miss it.
Re: Talking Point: Remember When 'Project Milo' Was The Next Big Thing For Xbox?
Microsoft let Sony's marketing destroy the Kinect. A greatly missed opportunity. The Kinect was great for a lot of things even if it was clunky as a game controller.
Re: Talking Point: Remember When 'Project Milo' Was The Next Big Thing For Xbox?
@HotGoomba VR and the Kinect technology are not trying to achieve the same thing. One is a video controller, the other is a virtual reality system.
Re: Soapbox: After Finally Playing 'Rally Adventure', I Want To See More Of This From Forza Horizon
In the future, I want to see this as it should have been in the first place. In the base game, not as DLC.
Re: Xbox Fans Call On Microsoft To 'Pick Up' Troubled Star Wars: KOTOR Remake
@DonaldMcRonald I don't think there aren't many games that really should be remade. But I believe KOTOR is one that is worth it.
Re: These 2023 Games Have Hit Record-Low Prices In Xbox's Black Friday Sale
@BacklogBrad It's an article about a digital sale. And all you had to contribute is how you prefer physical copies. We get it. Trolls gonna try to troll I guess.
Re: These 2023 Games Have Hit Record-Low Prices In Xbox's Black Friday Sale
@BacklogBrad Physical copies have to be swapped out. Can be damaged or lost as well. Why do physical media snobs have to say this in almost every article? Enjoy what you play and stop trying to be superior. It's just a personal preference, there is not right and wrong way to buy a game.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Is Getting A Gorgeous Three-Disc Deluxe Edition For Xbox
@Ryu_Niiyama It will install to your hard drive, you won't have to change discs mid game like the original FF7 and MGS. You will have to have the disc in the console in order to play the game though.
Re: Talking Point: Overall, How Successful Has 2023 Been For Xbox?
For me all the big titles didn't do as well as expected. This was a down year for Xbox. Prices raised for Game Pass and the content isn't improving. I gave it an E I think Xbox can do a lot better. 3 years later and still missing Velocity Architecture features we were promised at launch. This was the year Xbox was supposed to hit it out of the park with Starfield and Forza Motorsport and I believe those two titles exposed Xbox more than help it.
Re: Forza Customs Is A New Car-Themed Puzzle Game Out Now On Android & iOS
Feeding people the customization you can't even get in a real Forza game in a mobile game. This actually feels more like a slap in the face.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 2 Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Gabrielmpf I think this is one of my biggest disappointments coming from Horizon to a track focused game. I log in and it's the same stagnant tracks with what feels like like no incentive to play the game. I'm not sure adding 100 tracks and 1000 cars will fix this problem. They need to add something to the game that keeps you engaged.
Re: Starfield Fails To Make Shortlist For 'Game Of The Year' At The Game Awards 2023
@RBRTMNZ Example: I'm saying before the Beetles anthology came out, it was already #1 in the chart for the store selling it. If there had been no sales, that would make it a scam just to sell more copies, not that the album needed it. I was the guy who updated the display. It had nothing to do with sales of the product. It was who paid more for the top spot. It was a scam. Not whatever you came up with as a response to my comment.
Re: Starfield Fails To Make Shortlist For 'Game Of The Year' At The Game Awards 2023
The industry has some real hate for Microsoft. These awards are always scammy anyways and to be honest I would never use these lists as any input on deciding to buy a game.
I remember working for a record store a long time ago. When certain albums released they always put it in top albums even though not a single copy has been sold. At that point I never trusted marketing, it's all a scam.
Re: Talking Point: Xbox Series X|S Has Been Out For Three Years, And It's Now Hitting Its Stride
3 years and the only promised feature we have gotten so far is quick resume and even that doesn't work right. I have to personally disagree with this article.
Re: Phil Spencer: We Will Think Of Nintendo & PlayStation Users As 'Part Of The Xbox Community'
@Mephisto2869 phasing out their player base isn't a great strategic move
Re: Phil Spencer: We Will Think Of Nintendo & PlayStation Users As 'Part Of The Xbox Community'
@ZYDIO I don't have to buy any games, I'm ready. 🤷♂️
Re: Phil Spencer: We Will Think Of Nintendo & PlayStation Users As 'Part Of The Xbox Community'
@ZYDIO If Microsoft does this, Nintendo may be the only viable console for many. I personally will never buy a anything Sony so Playstation is out of the mix. There won't be a reason to own an Xbox.
Re: Phil Spencer: We Will Think Of Nintendo & PlayStation Users As 'Part Of The Xbox Community'
@Mephisto2869 The problem here is why would I buy an Xbox if I could just play Microsoft games via Game Pass on a Playstation.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 2 Launches Next Week, Here Are The Patch Notes
@OldGamer999 That's my guess. I ran through one tour twice not knowing I could level up in free play. I'm not sure the purpose of redoing a tour more than once. Perhaps to use different cars.
Re: Forza Motorsport Update 2 Launches Next Week, Here Are The Patch Notes
@OldGamer999 You can repeat the tours.
Re: Elon Musk Is Getting Involved With Xbox & PlayStation's Twitter Troubles
Please don't taint Xbox with twitter. Their lead ***** should stay far away from the gaming community. I hear Tesla stocks are falling rapidly. Perhaps he should focus on that.
Re: Hands On: Call Of Duty MW3's Campaign Is Here For A Good Time, But A Short Time
@Kaloudz The campaign part gets crapped on every release. All the focus in on the online multiplayer content which is why I haven't played these style games in many years. Call of Duty is not the only game to fumble this.
Re: Phil Spencer: We Will Think Of Nintendo & PlayStation Users As 'Part Of The Xbox Community'
That's not how Sony sees it. I do believe Nintendo just does their own thing though, I doubt it sees Xbox as part of their community.
These are the shortsighted things you get when trying to be the grown up in the room.
I'm with Phil on this though, it should be a gamer community overall with fanboyism put to rest.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Xbox Release Still On Schedule For 'This Year', Larian CEO Confirms
@InterceptorAlpha You are doing a lot of assuming there with a bunch of made up numbers. The paper launch of the Playstation 5 and both Series consoles promised a lot more than we are getting. Direct storage would go a long way to free up the video memory needed.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Xbox Release Still On Schedule For 'This Year', Larian CEO Confirms
@InterceptorAlpha In my honest opinion it is part of the publisher/developers fault for not jumping into the Velocity Architecture features. This little system would be a powerhouse if they just started implementing Direct Input when building a game.
Re: Xbox's Plan To Block 'Unauthorised' Accessories Has The Fighting Game Community Concerned
Color me the other guy. I can't stand cheaters. Microsoft said they are going to approve devices. You have to wait and see if they fumble this or not.
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
@Tharsman because the T-shirts are the only thing they are wasting our time with...
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
I do game on PC as well. We're still in last gen in my opinion. Cyberpunk 2077 seems to be the pinnacle of the last generation. I'm excited to see some games run in Unreal Engine 5 though.
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
@HonestHick Direct Input is the pivotal point for real Next Gen gaming. It's what offloads the processing of the GPU and CPU to do more because the SSD is handling the physical assets. This console is 3 years old now and as you have confirmed there are zero titles utilizing it.
Quick resume is broken in most games, mostly first party games. Starfield's load times are horrible.
Re: Forza Motorsport: How To Fix 'Washed Out' Graphics Bug On Xbox
@Markatron84 Between that and a still broken AI and no offline play makes you wonder why they didn't take another year or two to make it work. I don't need to reaggravate myself with this monotonous series that went stale. Shining up crap, doesn't make it not crap. There are other better options for this style racing.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Rating Reportedly Surfaces Online
So it's safe to play the game again without being rebalanced every other month where you have to relearn the game or start over?
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
@HonestHick Show me one game that uses Direct Input and other Velocity Architecture features.
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
@Tharsman Lets cut them, so we can pay the developers more perhaps. Instead of giving us what they promised, they gave us t-shirts for decades old console.
Re: All Of These 60+ Games Are Included With Ubisoft Plus On Xbox
I can confirm there are zero Ubisoft titles installed on any system I own, never will again either. This company just hates their consumers.
Re: Microsoft Unveils New 'Heritage Collection' Of Xbox 360 Merch
Maybe they should focus on Velocity Architecture features they promised for the Xbox Series X. Shiny controllers and nostalgic gear isn't cutting it.
Re: Review: Forza Motorsport - The Next Generation Of Racing Is Here
Sure glad I didn't spend money on this game. This generation is falling flat fast.
Re: The Xbox Series S 'xScreen' Is Now Officially Licensed By Microsoft
@theduckofdeath awesome, I missed it, thanks for letting me know.
Re: Forza Motorsport Release Date, Release Times & Early Access Details On Xbox & PC
@GASEOUS Some seem to hate the Microsoft Store, I don't understand why. This is one of the biggest benefits of the MS Store. I love Steam, will buy everything I can through there unless the game is a Play Anywhere title. It also may restrict people from playing Cloud based versions of games they have purchased as well. If it is locked behind Game Pass that's a pretty shady move by Microsoft. You either own the game or you don't.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Producer Joins Fable Team At Xbox's Playground Games
@GuyinPA75 I'm thinking the same thing. Though it seems Fable is being built from the ground up (likely using Direct Storage, and other real Next Gen features). Elders Srcolls: 6 will likely be running on existing/modified "Starfield" engine.
Re: The Xbox Series S 'xScreen' Is Now Officially Licensed By Microsoft
Do they make them in black, or plan to, for the new black Series S?
Re: Cuphead Is Getting An Exclusive 'Anniversary Update' For Xbox & PC This Week
@Mauzuri It is not in game content. Stuff you can probably find online pretty easily for free after release. It's just concept art / music for the most part, it's clearly stated as behind the scenes content.