@FraserG @lokozar I've said everything I'm going to say, plus you've brought up "society", which means you're probably only a couple of posts away from comparing warnings to a police state or Nazism or some other bull; disagreeing with whatever society deems necessary or appropriate just because it maintains the illusion you have of yourself that you're a "free thinker".
Honestly, between your bullsh*t, the constant vitriol from people like phoenix1 and stuff like the transphobic sh*t that came out of so many people on here a few months back, I'm done with this community and this website. Post whatever you like from now on because I won't see it. You'll literally be talking to yourself.
@Otis_Z_Firefly As we've both repeated countless times, the issue isn't that there should be warnings for everything. The issue is that it would be nice to be warned about media containing obviously sensitive topics. lokozar's arguement remains the same:
"You can't warn against everything, etc, plus why should I have to do anything?"
lokozar seems steadfast in the belief that everyone could be deemed offensive or upsetting to someone, but fails to grasp that it's only issues that are obviously and widely recognised as taboo/offensive/upsetting should have warnings.
My advice would be to leave it; let the artist "win" the argument and come away in the knowledge that you're not the a-hole in this situation.
@lokozar Yes, ideally people could/should work on their issues, but it's not always as easy as that. And surely, SURELY, you can see the harm that could be done to someone who's not strong enough or had the help or opportunities to face their fears or their pain or their past trauma? You shouldn't need to be pressured. It's just looking out for your common man and showing empathy, in the same way that I assume you're not racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, transphobic.
@lokozar No, I can't honestly think of everything that someone may be offended or upset by, but I'm also pretty sure I could come up with a comprehensive list of subjects that could be highly upsetting for people who have witnessed and/or been victims of, because I'm not a f*cking monster. AGAIN, I'm not saying you should be trying to warn everybody of every little thing:
Just. The. Obviously. Sensitive. Topics.
Like I said before, we're obviously not going to see eye to eye on this because I'm obviously not artistically minded like yourself. But I will ask this: have I once said that you should censor your art? Have I once said that it's not your right to create fiction or anything else centered around and/or containing themes that some people may find upsetting? No, because you have the right to do so. Putting a warning before your art doesn't diminish your right to create it.
@lokozar @zupertramp I can see that I'm not going to see eye to eye with either of you on this. I'll just say that the onus isn't on you as a creator to prepare for or intercept every eventuality, but rather be mindful of specific things that may be upsetting. Of course nobody's asking you to censor or warn people about everything; that's an utterly ridiculous argument. Yes, ideally, people should be dealing with their issues, but is you thrusting their issue on them without warning a good way for them to do that?
@phoenix1 it's being rolled out to insiders first in the same way every system update is. They're literally testing it out before it's made available to everyone else. That way any issues get ironed out before release and people like yourself have nothing to (legitimately) complain about.
@lokozar that's a fairly narrow minded viewpoint. Let's say for example that you created a work of fiction that contained scenes of and/or allusions to child abuse. Should somebody who was abused as a child not be entitled to be warned about said content?
@jrt87 I half agree with you. Yes, people do seem to be more susceptible to being offended or upset by things these days. You could close your eyes, pick a forum at random and find somebody bitching about being offended by something.
However, this is why content warnings beyond age ratings should be implemented. For example, two films could be rated 18 in the UK. One could be fairly harmless and only hold an 18 rating for language, the other could deal with things that of course many people would find unsettling or disturbing, such as rape, or child abuse. I think that in cases such as these, people have a right to know what's covered before they watch/read/play.
Implementing more in-depth warnings gives people protesting unsettling or controversial themes and/or content in media less of a leg to stand on. If a film studio or game publisher warned them beforehand, they shouldn't have interacted with it.
I hope they just stop at the new warning, to be honest. Should people be warned of any potentially upsetting or controversial themes included within literature, films, games, etc? Absolutely, and at that point it's up to the consumer if they want to subject themselves to that.
When idiots don't heed warnings and get upset by content, that's on them. The vision of the creator shouldn't be censored because people aren't smart enough to not look at, read or play things that they were warned might upset or offend them.
@Liam_Doolan the tweet you've got embedded above says "The game will release on Steam and Switch simultaneously, the rest of the consoles will follow up a little later."
It makes no mention of a week, or am I missing something?
@Turnip_Knight they'll count from 1am onwards. I've had the same issue trying to do anything Rewards-related on the Bing app or website. New activities show up at midnight but you can't actually do them until 1am.
How much longer until people just admit that the game isn't good? No other company would've had seven months' worth of the benefit of the doubt, and rightly so. If they'd cared truly about the quality of the product, they would have delayed it indefinitely until it was actually ready to go, instead of taking everyone's money and maybe fixing it later. Anyone who clings onto hope that Cyberpunk 2077 will somehow become the game it was promised needs their head examined.
I gave up on the game without experiencing that glitch. Someone needs to give the developers a nudge and clue them in on, 1. save systems have come on quite a bit since 1997, and 2. If I've seen a tutorial three times already, you should probably let me skip it.
I'm not being tricked into watching another one of these. The last one was 4 hours long and was filled to the brim with the kind of fake-as-f*ck, overly loud, barely knowledgeable, 20-something Twitch streamers with sh*t-eating grins that I absolutely loathe. I'll just read through the announcements the next day.
Ooooh... Portal 2 is a great choice; played through that one once solo and the co-op twice with Mrs VenomousAlbino. But there's so many good ones; Arkham City, Uncharted 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Wolfenstein II all instantly spring to mind as sequels I particularly enjoyed.
@Clankylad Last Stop was my second choice as well. It's got a lot of problems; terrible lip sync, some iffy acting, wonky as f*ck animation, some REALLY bad audio mixing... but I loved playing it.
I love the feel, it looks nice and the Skewer is the best thing since the chainsaw bayonet... but I'd like to try fighting against human players now. The bots included in the test are a cakewalk even for me, and I'm no Halo pro.
@carlos82 Same. If you have even the smallest bit of knowledge about where you live it's easy.
My wife and I did it minutes after booting up the game. Started at Cardiff Airport, found the coast of the Bristol Channel, followed it east until we hit Cardiff city centre, then north until we hit the outskirts of the city and there was our house.
This game is bloody insane! My wife just took off from Cardiff Airport. We found Llandough Hospital then using our knowledge just found Cardiff Castle and then our house. This is the best game ever made.
It's not a loss leader if subscribers are literally giving you billions of dollars a year, SOME of which is invested back into securing games for the service.
I'd love to see a co-pilot mode. I can see my wife and I really getting into this if we can hop into the cockpit of the same passenger jet and fly it together.
Well the plan WAS to play Cris Tales all weekend. However, the enemy telegraphing is abysmal, the save system is archaic and I can't skip a tutorial I've already seen three bloody times. So basically, Cris Tales: do one.
@FraserG Shadow of the Tomb Raider literally just now updated itself to a Series X game.
I think the further optimization done is in relation to the game streaming from the SSD; I have the Definitive Edition and it's halved in size, from around 45GB to 22.6GB.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@FraserG @lokozar I've said everything I'm going to say, plus you've brought up "society", which means you're probably only a couple of posts away from comparing warnings to a police state or Nazism or some other bull; disagreeing with whatever society deems necessary or appropriate just because it maintains the illusion you have of yourself that you're a "free thinker".
Honestly, between your bullsh*t, the constant vitriol from people like phoenix1 and stuff like the transphobic sh*t that came out of so many people on here a few months back, I'm done with this community and this website. Post whatever you like from now on because I won't see it. You'll literally be talking to yourself.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@Otis_Z_Firefly As we've both repeated countless times, the issue isn't that there should be warnings for everything. The issue is that it would be nice to be warned about media containing obviously sensitive topics. lokozar's arguement remains the same:
"You can't warn against everything, etc, plus why should I have to do anything?"
lokozar seems steadfast in the belief that everyone could be deemed offensive or upsetting to someone, but fails to grasp that it's only issues that are obviously and widely recognised as taboo/offensive/upsetting should have warnings.
My advice would be to leave it; let the artist "win" the argument and come away in the knowledge that you're not the a-hole in this situation.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@PhhhCough no one asked that the No Russian mission be taken out or complained? Were you in a coma circa 2009?
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@Otis_Z_Firefly I wouldn't bother.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
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Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@lokozar Yes, ideally people could/should work on their issues, but it's not always as easy as that. And surely, SURELY, you can see the harm that could be done to someone who's not strong enough or had the help or opportunities to face their fears or their pain or their past trauma? You shouldn't need to be pressured. It's just looking out for your common man and showing empathy, in the same way that I assume you're not racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, transphobic.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@lokozar No, I can't honestly think of everything that someone may be offended or upset by, but I'm also pretty sure I could come up with a comprehensive list of subjects that could be highly upsetting for people who have witnessed and/or been victims of, because I'm not a f*cking monster. AGAIN, I'm not saying you should be trying to warn everybody of every little thing:
Just. The. Obviously. Sensitive. Topics.
Like I said before, we're obviously not going to see eye to eye on this because I'm obviously not artistically minded like yourself. But I will ask this: have I once said that you should censor your art? Have I once said that it's not your right to create fiction or anything else centered around and/or containing themes that some people may find upsetting? No, because you have the right to do so. Putting a warning before your art doesn't diminish your right to create it.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@lokozar @zupertramp I can see that I'm not going to see eye to eye with either of you on this. I'll just say that the onus isn't on you as a creator to prepare for or intercept every eventuality, but rather be mindful of specific things that may be upsetting. Of course nobody's asking you to censor or warn people about everything; that's an utterly ridiculous argument. Yes, ideally, people should be dealing with their issues, but is you thrusting their issue on them without warning a good way for them to do that?
Re: After Leaving Xbox Game Pass, GTA V Is A Best-Seller In The UK Again
Nice to see Hades charting.
Re: The Xbox Series X Is Finally Getting A Higher Resolution UI
@phoenix1 it's being rolled out to insiders first in the same way every system update is. They're literally testing it out before it's made available to everyone else. That way any issues get ironed out before release and people like yourself have nothing to (legitimately) complain about.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@lokozar that's a fairly narrow minded viewpoint. Let's say for example that you created a work of fiction that contained scenes of and/or allusions to child abuse. Should somebody who was abused as a child not be entitled to be warned about said content?
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
@jrt87 I half agree with you. Yes, people do seem to be more susceptible to being offended or upset by things these days. You could close your eyes, pick a forum at random and find somebody bitching about being offended by something.
However, this is why content warnings beyond age ratings should be implemented. For example, two films could be rated 18 in the UK. One could be fairly harmless and only hold an 18 rating for language, the other could deal with things that of course many people would find unsettling or disturbing, such as rape, or child abuse. I think that in cases such as these, people have a right to know what's covered before they watch/read/play.
Implementing more in-depth warnings gives people protesting unsettling or controversial themes and/or content in media less of a leg to stand on. If a film studio or game publisher warned them beforehand, they shouldn't have interacted with it.
Re: Xbox Game Pass's Boyfriend Dungeon Is Proving To Be Controversial For Some Players
I hope they just stop at the new warning, to be honest. Should people be warned of any potentially upsetting or controversial themes included within literature, films, games, etc? Absolutely, and at that point it's up to the consumer if they want to subject themselves to that.
When idiots don't heed warnings and get upset by content, that's on them. The vision of the creator shouldn't be censored because people aren't smart enough to not look at, read or play things that they were warned might upset or offend them.
Re: Timed Switch Exclusive Bomb Rush Cyberfunk Is Coming To 'Other Platforms' A Week Later
@Liam_Doolan the tweet you've got embedded above says "The game will release on Steam and Switch simultaneously, the rest of the consoles will follow up a little later."
It makes no mention of a week, or am I missing something?
Re: Review: Lawn Mowing Simulator - Who Knew Mowing Could Be This Fun?
@FraserG I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed.
Re: Review: Lawn Mowing Simulator - Who Knew Mowing Could Be This Fun?
@FraserG did you mow a penis on any lawns? I'd have mowed (mowed? mown?) a penis on a lawn.
Re: Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Now Optimised For Xbox Series X, Series S
I like how even 9 months after the Series X|S launch you still get these announcements. Go online and "Surprise! Optimized! Have some raytracing!"
Re: Random: Halo's Legendary Multiplayer Announcer Does Voice Lines From Destiny 2
Anything is better than Saladin; guy sounds like he should be on some sort of register.
Re: Xbox Is Getting An All-New 'Night Mode' Feature Very Soon
@Turnip_Knight they'll count from 1am onwards. I've had the same issue trying to do anything Rewards-related on the Bing app or website. New activities show up at midnight but you can't actually do them until 1am.
Re: The Ascent Players Are Raising Concerns Over The Game’s Text Size
@gravelmonkey doesn't matter how good the game is for the people unable to play it.
Re: The Ascent Players Are Raising Concerns Over The Game’s Text Size
Guess there's no point in me starting this for a while then...
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Still Has 'A Lot That Needs Changing' Seven Months Later, Claims Digital Foundry
How much longer until people just admit that the game isn't good? No other company would've had seven months' worth of the benefit of the doubt, and rightly so. If they'd cared truly about the quality of the product, they would have delayed it indefinitely until it was actually ready to go, instead of taking everyone's money and maybe fixing it later. Anyone who clings onto hope that Cyberpunk 2077 will somehow become the game it was promised needs their head examined.
Re: Cris Tales' Game-Breaking Glitch Has Now Been Fixed On Xbox
@Royalblues On Switch, Dragon Quest XI took me 70-75 hours to finish. Don't cram that one into a weekend, ok? 😂
Re: Cris Tales' Game-Breaking Glitch Has Now Been Fixed On Xbox
I gave up on the game without experiencing that glitch. Someone needs to give the developers a nudge and clue them in on, 1. save systems have come on quite a bit since 1997, and 2. If I've seen a tutorial three times already, you should probably let me skip it.
Re: Xbox Indie Showcase Returns Next Week With New Announcements And Game Pass News
I'm not being tricked into watching another one of these. The last one was 4 hours long and was filled to the brim with the kind of fake-as-f*ck, overly loud, barely knowledgeable, 20-something Twitch streamers with sh*t-eating grins that I absolutely loathe. I'll just read through the announcements the next day.
Re: Spligate Team 'Absolutely Working Our Tails Off' To Improve Server Capacity
"working effortlessly"? I certainly hope not.
Hopefully the team gets this sorted soon. It'd be a shame if the game didn't find a large audience because of it.
Re: You Can Now Have Master Chief As A GPS Navigator On Your Smart Device
If he doesn't say "now... finish this fight" when you reach your destination, I call bullsh*t.
Re: Dodgeball Academia Launches Day One With Xbox Game Pass This Week
@phoenix1 clairvoyant, I see.
Re: EA Play Is Bringing Five Codemasters Games To Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
Boom, GRID all the way.
@Harvy75 yeah, it's dirt (ha!) cheap in the Ultimate Sale, so I too nearly bought it.
Re: Take-Two CEO Believes GTA V Will Be 'Highly Appealing' To Xbox Series X And Series S Owners
@Beermonkey Well they're not getting any more of my money. I've already bought the game twice.
Re: Take-Two CEO Believes GTA V Will Be 'Highly Appealing' To Xbox Series X And Series S Owners
@Beermonkey Don't hold your breath.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your Favourite Video Game Sequel?
Ooooh... Portal 2 is a great choice; played through that one once solo and the co-op twice with Mrs VenomousAlbino. But there's so many good ones; Arkham City, Uncharted 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Wolfenstein II all instantly spring to mind as sequels I particularly enjoyed.
Re: 8BitDo's New Xbox Media Remote Arrives This September
How long until someone beats Dark Souls on one of these?
Re: Halo Infinite Players Have Already Eliminated Over Six Million Bots
@Ocat plus it's free. Can't argue with free. 👍
Re: Halo Infinite Players Have Already Eliminated Over Six Million Bots
I definitely had more fun playing last night with the ODST bots. I actually had to try. Looking forward to checking out the Spartans.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 31st)
Did I mention how banging Bloodroots is? Also I'll finally be wrapping up Immortals tonight.
Re: Poll: Which Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Addition In July?
@Clankylad Last Stop was my second choice as well. It's got a lot of problems; terrible lip sync, some iffy acting, wonky as f*ck animation, some REALLY bad audio mixing... but I loved playing it.
Re: Poll: Which Was Your Favourite Xbox Game Pass Addition In July?
Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots. Bloodroots.
Did I mention Bloodroots? Maybe I'll change my tune when I start The Ascent, but for now?
BLOODROOTS.
Re: Xbox Fans Are Really Impressed With The Halo Infinite Technical Preview
I love the feel, it looks nice and the Skewer is the best thing since the chainsaw bayonet... but I'd like to try fighting against human players now. The bots included in the test are a cakewalk even for me, and I'm no Halo pro.
Re: Forza Motorsport 7 Is Reaching 'End Of Life' Status, Will Leave Xbox Game Pass This September
@antstephenson sounds like Horizon is more for you. Motorsport is as sim as they come; no flashiness or bombast, just track racing and tuning.
Re: Guide: How To Find Your House In Microsoft Flight Simulator For Xbox
@carlos82 Same. If you have even the smallest bit of knowledge about where you live it's easy.
My wife and I did it minutes after booting up the game. Started at Cardiff Airport, found the coast of the Bristol Channel, followed it east until we hit Cardiff city centre, then north until we hit the outskirts of the city and there was our house.
Re: Here Are Your Xbox Games With Gold For August 2021
That copy for Mark of the Wolves is tickling me.
Re: Talking Point: Where Have You Been Flying In Microsoft Flight Simulator?
This game is bloody insane! My wife just took off from Cardiff Airport. We found Llandough Hospital then using our knowledge just found Cardiff Castle and then our house. This is the best game ever made.
Re: Former PlayStation Exec Shares Concerns With Xbox Game Pass Model
It's not a loss leader if subscribers are literally giving you billions of dollars a year, SOME of which is invested back into securing games for the service.
Re: Feature: 5 Activities To Try First In Microsoft Flight Simulator For Xbox Series X, Series S
I'd love to see a co-pilot mode. I can see my wife and I really getting into this if we can hop into the cockpit of the same passenger jet and fly it together.
Re: Deals: 50+ Games Added To This Week's Xbox Sales (July 27-August 3)
I will again take the opportunity to recommend Donut County.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Buying In The Xbox Summer Sale?
@SplooshDmg Bulletstorm is short, stupid and immature... but it's bloody brilliant.
Re: Pick One: Which Of These Xbox Olympics Games Is Your Favourite?
The Aquatic Games Starring James Pond and the Aquabats.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (July 24th)
Well the plan WAS to play Cris Tales all weekend. However, the enemy telegraphing is abysmal, the save system is archaic and I can't skip a tutorial I've already seen three bloody times. So basically, Cris Tales: do one.
Re: Shadow Of The Tomb Raider Appears To Be Getting Optimised For Xbox Series X & Series S
@FraserG Shadow of the Tomb Raider literally just now updated itself to a Series X game.
I think the further optimization done is in relation to the game streaming from the SSD; I have the Definitive Edition and it's halved in size, from around 45GB to 22.6GB.