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If the Activision deal goes thro surely MS won’t buy anyone else for a while.

But the outcome is the same??? Either way Xbox doesn’t get the game. Simply answer my question, did Xbox 360 pay to keep Bio Shock, Ninja Gaiden 2, etc, off Playstation? Was that not the same?
Also in a post on here today Phil says the Square Enix thing has nothing to do with Sony paying them.

@Banjo- the argument that Sony pay devs to skip Xbox is so funny. Did MS pay devs to take Bio Sock an Ninja Gaiden 2 from Playstation? Was it ok back then but not now? If Microsoft could get timed exclusive deals they would like they did in the past. How is getting timed exclusivity for 1 year worse than buying a whole studio an making almost finished 3rd party games exclusive? Something Sony has never done, Sony buy a dev, invest and make new games that are PS exclusive. I want the deal to go thro btw, i play team death match, my kids love it too so if it comes to Game Pass that’s a win for me.

Flight Sim 2024 is the only one i’m really fussed about. Will have a look at Hell Blade but not that arsed.

So what is the difference??? If a game is timed exclusive to Playstation it doesn’t come to Xbox. Or Switch. Like Bio Shock an Ninja Gaiden 2 didn’t hit Playstation on release. Was that because Xbox got timed exclusivity or was it because Xbox paid for it not to be on Playstation? Wat’s the difference???

@Kaloudz so which games have been exclusive to Playstation an refused to Xbox? Other than FF latest games i know of none. With regard to FF there are various stories as to why the new games don’t seem to be coming to Xbox. One is Sony, one is Square Enix, one is Square Enix and Microsoft. But if it was because Sony paid for it to skip Xbox why wouldn’t Phil just say that? Why would he stick up for Sony an say it’s because of business deals? Just say Sony paid Square Enix to skip Xbox! We have thus proof of this!!

He also said MS didn’t acquire Bethesda to take games away from other platforms. He lied. Ever heard the story bout the boy who cried wolf?

So which game has been timed, Playstation exclusive that also came to Switch? Why aren’t Nintendo kicking a stink too? Like i’ve said, Xbox 360 did the exact same an they would now if they could. They can’t so instead they spend billions buying whole studios to keep games from Playstation, not for 6 month or a year, forever!!

@Kaloudz it doesn’t matter who typed wat i read, paying for 1 year timed exclusivity an paying to keep a game from other consoles for a year is the same thing. If i give you £50 but want paying back or i borrow you £50 but want paying back is that the same thing???

@iplaygamesnstuff new games on every device possible??? Is that why Phil said our aim isn’t to take Bethesda games from other platforms, then he makes 3 intended third party games, Redfall, Starfield an Indiana, Xbox exclusive!!
You do know Xbox 360 had numerous timed exclusives? So that was ok but because Xbox can no longer do it it shouldn’t be allowed by anyone?

They all talk a load of *****. I don’t think Sony’s aim is to hurt Xbox, to beat them sure but not hurt them. It’s not as tho Sony are worried, it’s hardly a close race. Was Microsoft trying to hurt Playstation in the 360 day wen they had timed exclusives? Was phil trying to hurt Playstation wen he lied an said it wasn’t his aim to remove Bethesda title from other platforms, then he makes Redfall, Starfield an Indiana, intended 3rd party games, exclusive? If Phil could get timed exclusives he would! If Phil could do something that hurt Playstation an boosted Xbox he would! Fact!!

Costs me about £30 a year so yeah. 2 years of Game Pass with Starfield or just Starfield? It’s a no brainer!!

@Kaloudz i can’t comprehend wat you’re sayin. It’s the same thing. Timed exclusives are just that, exclusive to that console. Name me one game that Sony paid for exclusivity an the game released elsewhere an only skipped Xbox.

@Kaloudz FF16 is only on PS5. If they pay for timed exclusivity they pay to keep the game to themselves for a while.
If they pay to keep a game off Xbox they pay to keep the game to themselves for a while.
I’ll ask again, did MS pay for timed exclusivity of Bio Shock on 360 or did they pay to keep Bio Shock off Playstation for a while???

@Kaloudz how are those two statements different??? They paid to have a timed exclusive deal meaning the game came to Playstation but Xbox had to wait a year.
They paid to keep the game from Xbox for a year.
It’s the same thing!!
Wat about Bio Shock on the Xbox 360? Did Xbox pay for timed exclusivity or did they pay to keep Bio Shock off Playstation for a while?

Started playin Diablo 4 on Tuesday, not played anything else!! Oh apart from a couple of games of COD team death match with my kids.

@K1LLEGAL i’m talking AAA, massively expensive to make games. TLOU 1 an 2, Uncharted 1-4, God of War Ragnarok, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon, Spiderman, Miles, Days Gone, games like that. Not Tetris 2023!!!

@Kaloudz paying for 3, 6, 12 month exclusivity and buying a game an blocking it from intended platforms is totally different! Like i said, Xbox 360 did it too. Which game have Sony paid to keep off Xbox? I heard a story bout them offering/paying to keep a game from Game Pass but not Xbox.

@Kaloudz i really think Xbox fans intentionally miss the point. Sony acquired devs release brand new, incredible games. Microsoft devs don’t. Buying a dev, giving them money and having them release a brand new game is a bit different feom buying a dev an turning 3rd party games exclusive.
With regards to Deathloop all MS did was honour a contract. It was prob easier than the risk of being dragged to court. Playstation did a deal with the dev an paid for timed exclusivity. Like Xbox used to do wen their sales competed with Playstation sales back in the 360 days.

@Jay J ???

@K1LLEGAL FF16 is currently exclusive to PS, it isn’t made by PS devs tho. Sony bought Insomniac and Insomniac produced arguably their best game, a new ip, Spiderman. Wen Playstation bought Naughty Dog, Naughty Dog made games for Apple 2, Sony invested an we’ve had TLOU 1, 2 an Left Behind, Uncharted 1-4 an Lost Legacy. Wen have Xbox devs done this???
Minecraft wasn’t made by Xbox devs, it was bought, Psychonauts 2 is on Playstation, Forza an Halo are true Xbox exclusives, i said that.

@Kaloudz was it anti competitive when Xbox 360 did it? Would it be anti competitive if Series consoles an PS5 sales were equal and the Series X had timed exclusives? Like i’ve said before, Atari 2600 was the first to have timed exclusives. It’s always been a thing. It’s only considered a problem now because Xbox can’t do it. It’s the same as people kicking a stink an starting petitions to get Starfield on Playstation. It’s business, being exclusive will make ya system more popular.

@Kaloudz the games you mention, Silent Hill, FF, etc i don’t class as PS exclusives. As you say Sony devs don’t make them. Games like Deathloop already had a contract to be timed on Playstation. MS honoured the contract as i’m guessing that was easier than maybe being dragged to court by Sony an likely losing.
I’ve just read a story about the Call of Duty thing ya mention, it said Activision forced MS to pay more for COD. Playstation split takings 70/30 with Activision, Activision quoted MS 80/20 an stopped them using COD at showcases, nothing to do with Sony.
Also Xbox fans complain bout timed exclusives all the time. Do ya not think Xbox would have timed exclusives if they could? Playstation sells over twice as many games as Xbox, no dev is gonna go exclusive to Xbox for a year an give up 70+% of their customers. Back in the Xbox 360 days the player base was close an Xbox had numerous timed exclusives. PS43 sold about 2 million more consoles than 360. PS4 sold about 75 million more than Xbox One.

@K1LLEGAL i never claim FF16 to be a PS exclusive. Forza H 5 an Halo Infinite are the only Series exclusive we’ve had. Games like Minecraft are games that MS simply bought. Like if COD was made exclusive i wouldn’t refer to it amongst Xbox exclusives. MS devs didn’t make it, they bought it. MS have more devs than Sony yet look at the comparison of new ip’s in the last 6 years lets say. Playstation is way ahead!!

@Nightcrawler71 but Sony exclusives are made by Sony devs. What new games have we had from Xbox acquired devs? None!! There’s Starfield an Redfall but they were already in the works wen MS bought Bethesda, they were being made as multi platform games.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner obvs i prefer 60 but i’m ok with 30. I just don’t believe anyone feels motion sickness from 30 fps. Like i said, so they couldn’t game on Xbox One, PS4 or anything before that?
If they do they should never try playing World War Fighter Planes on the Oculus Quest 2!!! They’ll die!!!

Wen folk say 30 fps gives them motion sickness i don’t believe them! They’re lying!! Did you only start gaming this gen? Couldn’t game previous gens as 30 fps made ya feel sick!! Movies run at 24 fps!! You tellin me ya never watched a movie? Attention seeking, always offended, woke, loves to complain world we live in today!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@Solidchief to be fair the 360 released some 18 months before the PS3 an the PS3 cost a lot more. They didn’t stop makin Xbox 360 until 2016, 3 years after the Xbox One released.

@BaldBelper78 i don’t think so. If Xbox started releasing mind blowing exclusives, 10/10 across the board an Playstation released poor to average exclusives Xbox would close the gap an eventually overtake. I openly say both machines are incredible but i do prefer my PS5 to my Series X simply because of the games. I’d love it if Xbox released equal quality games, i’m so hopin Starfield is as good as it sounds!! I think wat you’re saying would only happen with Nintendo, espesh in Japan.

@BaldBelper78 how has PS5 had a dire line up of games??? Xbox have had 2 exclusives in almost 3 years!! I have both PS5 an Series X, my PS5 has 2tb extended SSD, my Series X has no extended SSD. I have more space on my Xbox. In fact Forza Horizon 5, Flight Sim, Dead Island 2, Left for Dead 2, Elden Ring. They’re wat’s on my Series X.

@Martsmall how do i do that? Will it work in England?

Everyone on here does know about the Live Gold hack right? Game Pass costs me about £35 a year, PS+ extra costs me double that!!

Big Phil dunt half tell some porkies!! 😂😂

@47AlphaTango do people not use the Xbox Live Gold hack??? Game Pass costs me £35 a year! Wen ya Game Pass runs out buy 12 month Xbox Live Gold from a store, they’ll email you a code, rrp is £50 a year but shop around an ya can find it for £25-£30. Go to ya Xbox an input the code. Then buy 1 month Game Pass Ultimate thro ya Xbox, it automatically converts ya Live Gold to Game Pass Ultimate.

@Lostitall totally agree mate. It just seems a lot of Xbox fans only started gaming with the Xbox One. Xbox had timed exclusives too an they would today if they were as popular as Playstation!!

@iplaygamesnstuff Bethesda were well in to making a new game, a third party game. Microsoft bought Bethesda, Phil Spencer said it isn’t our aim to take games from other platforms, they then announce Redfall an Starfield will be exclusive. This is one reason Playstation has a problem with the acquisition. There’s also been emails leaked from top guys at Xbox stating their plan with the Activision deal is to sink Playstation.

@iplaygamesnstuff so you’re not gonna play Starfield? That was meant to come to PS5. Microsoft used cash to stop that.

@PSme that’s my point. People wantin mid gen console upgrades after 3 years!! Like ya do on PC!! No thanks!

@Kaloudz it made sense last gen with the boost in popularity of 4K. Pointless this gen imo. No way would i pay another £550 just for 4K, 120 fps. May as well buy a PC an upgrade every couple of years.

@Lostitall they don’t like Sony or Playstation because they do deals to earn more money??? Strange!!

@iplaygamesnstuff do ya not think Xbox would do it if they could? Back in the PS3/Xbox360 era the player base was pretty similar an Xbox had numerous timed exclusives. Sony have a far bigger player base nowadays so devs offer Sony exclusivity deals. 70+% of third party games sell on Playstation. Timed exclusivity isn’t new, the Atari 2600 was the first to do it.

@Blinx ya joking! I couldn’t wait!! First thing i did was land on my street! Then Area 51, then North Korea, then Pablo Escobar’s island.

@PhileasFragg but all said games were pre Microsoft. They’ve had far more time and money than previously. I’ve been one of the biggest doubters over the last 12 month or so an i’ve been openly vocal about my doubts on here. However, after wat we saw at the showcase, i’m thinkin they just might pull this off.

@Zoidpilot4 it’s always been like this! ZX Spectrum v Commodore 64, Amiga an Atari ST, Master System v NES, Megadrive v SNES, etc, etc. i actually find it funny, it happens on both sides. There’s a guy on here often, i won’t mention his name, he has a deep routed hatred for Playstation an Sony. About 30% of his posts are slagging Playstation an Sony. Sony exclusives are boring, interactive movies, Sony bribe devs to keep games from Xbox an to hurt Xbox gamers, Sony are evil liars!!! He’d really love Playstation to go bust, not realising this would actually hurt Xbox fans. No competition means they could release wat they want an charge wat they want.