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Off topic but does someone know games that are supposed to leave GP on 15th. Do they love tonight at midnight or tomorrow night?

@UltimateOtaku91 Bold of them to assume that game will ever release. It is the new "The Last Guardian".

The whole idea of 60fps gaming was from PC space where every year there is shiny new GPUs each costing 3x price of a console. Consoles are always under-powered and old tech compared to state-of-the-art PC. So you always have to have a sacrifice between good graphics or good framerate and in anything that is not a competitive shooter or something, I prefer better graphics.

If it includes Day 1 releases it could kinda sorta be worth it. But again, since most Ubi games are grind-based open-worlders each 40-50 hours long, the monthly payments will soon add up to the price of the full games. Plus, their games that are not 50hr long open-worlds are live service like Siege, again a game you play all the time (supposedly). So let's see.

@Kaloudz Essentially this is GamePass minus the Day 1 releases. I also wonder if Sony eventually decides to do some Day 1 release for their AA titles on it.

@Moonglow So Marvel/Disney owns the rights for Spiderman, Sony Pictures has the rights for Spiderman movies while PlayStation got the rights for games? It is kinda funny because I know that back when they brought Spiderman into the MCU, it was Marvel collaborating and negotiating on it with Sony.

Microsoft could release a Series X Pro with 5x the power at the same price and it would change nothing. Games often run equally or even worse on Series X compared to PS5. The Series S consistently struggles in various games and cannot live up to its promise of "Series X but at 1440p" meanwhile our champion video game so far is Redfall running at 30fps. At this point, there is nothing to say that hasn't been said before by others.

@Kaloudz Depending on how long you have been with Xbox mate, this whole idea that Xbox will one day start firing all its cylinders (or pistons?) and it will be a great time is a promise that has been "coming" since the beginning days of Xbox One and the skepticism is warranted. The acquisitions of the way back then like Ninja Theory and Undead Labs still haven't released a single game. The acquisition of Bethesda is only now starting to bear fruits and the reception towards Redfall has been lukewarm so far. The less said about the drama of ABK the better. Meanwhile, let me bring out our good whipping boy 343 Industries, and how the Xbox mascot Master Chief is in the cryosleep again and Microsoft will wake him when they need him. Gears is supposedly coming someday and basically, Forza has been carrying the brand. Regardless of which way you look at it, the situation is dire.

@Dezzy70 Man, I totally understand your position.

Let's gear up for a huge Starfield launch. Cool!

@Bleachedsmiles Doing that 12 month thing is stupid because release dates are more fluid that cocacola and they move all the time. Plus, Xbox is not in the position yet to say "we have so much let's just cover the next 12 months".

I mean, it is all good fun to ridicule Ubi. But isn't R6 Siege perhaps the first live-service game that will actually make it into being a 10-year game? Ubisoft is capable of great things with the right direction.

@Kezelpaso CDPR, alongside Rockstar and others I think are switching to a 1-game-per-generation model. By the time their next project comes out it is either already next gen, or they shouldn't release it on Curren-gen.
Similarly with Bethesda, I think by the time they release ESVI it is PS6 and by the time of Fallout 5 either PS7 or about beginning of it (using PS naming system because Xbox next console might be called Interstellar or something.)

@BAMozzy What were you concerns and with it being an Arkane game? I also have mixed feelings towards it but I wonder if someone else can better put it into words.

@Ralizah That also factors into it. Sometimes you just know that it looks wrong but cannot really break down exactly why.

I doubt any console can run it. Unless CD Projekt and AMD + Xbox geniuses really sit down and figure out some dark magic.

@Ralizah I think part of it is because of its art design and graphics. There is a strong cross-gen feel despite the game being only on X/S and the art design is generally very bland to me but I have never liked Arkane's art design so my opinion is heavily biased.

Weeks from launch and still not a single video that presents a representative sample of gameplay of the game in a good way. Way to go Arkane!
But fundamentally I think everyone wants to believe Redfall is anything other than an open-world co-op FPS when it isn't. I have been recently playing Back 4 Blood with my buddies and while nothing in that game is 9/10 all around it a very enjoyable gameplay loop. Hopefully Redfall pulls off the same.

@Spaceman-Spiff Games like this are only meant to be played with others in co-op and I would say with people you know and not randoms via matchmaking. Once you and your buddies figure out the game and its grind, it can be a very fun experience. But otherwise these types of games are essentially worthless, there is nothing special about them when you play alone.

@BAMozzy I also think best course of action for Halo is to really tightly focus on being a AAA single player experience and be the type of game that wins GOTY awards. But sadly Microsoft is probably pivoting it to the exact opposite after firing all the campaign people.

The idea of that Tatanka game however basically shows that to some degree they know Halo cannot survive just off of its roots (including spin-offs with Halo Wars).

@Korgon I think compared to back in Halo 2 and Halo 3 era where it was the undisputed king of console FPS yeah, it is kinda dead today. But just on its own Infinite is far from dead.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner I don't think CoD being on GP changes how much effect CoD has on success of Halo on Xbox. Halo will never be able to compete with CoD because Cod has a dozen studios putting out games every year, often the games are the best MP and in some years even the best SP campaign experience you can get.
Halo's problems are more between the game and its own dedicated fanbase and their opinion of the game.

@AverageGamer I think I can also vouch the same for R6 Siege. The game has been "dead" according to people for ages. Heck, even in Halo 5 you can find a match super quick today.

Props to all the "Halo is dead" comments, right next to the YouTubers who say they are done with Halo since Halo 5 in 2015 and they are still there.

Definitely Ubi, outside of the Dead Space remake and (IMHO largely overrated) Star Wars games from Respawn EA has nothing on offer for me.

@MaccaMUFC I think sales often go like this: Ubisoft games go sub 20, other games are like 5 bucks cheaper. CoD games never go on a proper sale, they are just less outrageously expensive.

That Far Cry sale is steep! Very nice.

Phil Spencer: What elseee do you wannnnttttt???

I think people just need to accept that you don't get all the same experiences across both platforms. People on Xbox can keep wanting an epic third-person hack n'slash like God of War and people on PS can keep begging for a sci-fi FPS exclusive like Halo. But at some point you need to accept each platform offers a different range of experiences. You don't buy a Nintendo console if you are not into Mario and Metroid and Zelda.
Same with the whole Square Enix deal, it is a Sony company now unofficially.

Basically, with how few units X1 was moving early in that generation none of its early exclusives found a foothold. Both Ryse and Quantum Break clearly deserved a shot at being franchises.

Xbox needs to chill with its controller stuff.

@Cikajovazmaj The shift to games-as-service and live-service gaming surely kicked single-player gaming into the ground. Sadly Xbox is also yet to give us some really good AAA SP experiences.

@Kaloudz Yeah but you don't expect Disney+ remove Iron Man 1 from their library because it released in 2008. First party games should remain on service permanently or if they leave it should be announced more in advance.

@InterceptorAlpha Yeah, too bad it released at worst time of Xbox when the total fanbase of Xbox was like 15 people.

Xbox out there taking off two games in backlog, rough month.

I will still miss the back to back barrage of announcements from the big three of Sony, Xbox and Nintendo in a matter of hours. Cool stuff and it was good while it lasted.

@SplooshDmg But has any game ever performed above SE's expectations? I think Deus Ex, Hitman, Tomb Raider and Avengers all performed below their expectations and with the exception of Avengers the rest were solid games.

Square Enix is a weird beast now, it sold all its western IPs like Tomb Raider and Deus Ex. So now it is a purely Japanese business and given how any fan of Japanese games anywhere on the word is probably has a PS or Nintendo, it makes sense they drop Xbox.

Give me Firefight 343! I beg of you.

@InterceptorAlpha I personally always found Arkane's games have this specific X-factor to their art style and design that just makes them look weird to me. Like all human or humanoid characters have that signature look they started from Dishonoured with huge pointy noses and so on. It is bit of a pet peeve and critics seem to really love this studio. But for me I have to see about this one and see how it plays.

@Bleachedsmiles The marketing campaign will also need to market the games, they don't market Netflix or HBO max, they market the shows and movies on them. I think their biggest first-party drop so far is still Halo Infinite. They have to market the Redfall and Starfield for GP.

@Bleachedsmiles I think GP is stuck at 25 Million-ish subs until they add some big hitter games (cough...COD...cough) or something more radical that sells more Xboxes that subscribe to it.

I think as the games start rolling and if the ABK deal goes through. Xbox will stop the whole "experimental" phase of GP and try to really settle into a rhythm with its content and pricing. Similar to other subscription services.

Are the game leaving for April announced yet?

I kinda wish there was another Halo twin-stick shooter or RTS game releasing some day.

Looking forward to have those CoD games on GP any day now.

@Wakkawipeout R6 Siege also seemed like that type of game to me at first but over time I have gotten better with it with a controller. It is a matter of practice. As long as you are on Xbox and everyone else is also on Xbox/PS and using the same input method (controller) it is a fair playground and may the best man win.

@Moonglow To be fair, if you look at how graphically mind-blowing Sony's exclusives have been across PS4 and PS5 generations, they hardly need it. GoW:Ragnarok and Horizon: FW were both cross-gen games and they are both extremely handsome looking on PS5. Microsoft needed to hug UE5 very tight because not a single studio under Xbox has a truly good in-house engine. 343's Slipspace looked stunning in its tech-demo reveal but none of that made it into the games. Meanwhile the Creaton engine is famous for always being one console generation behind.

@Green-Bandit I think the back end of this gen, from 2024 to 2028 will probably where we skip to the good part. Once all Xbox first-party games start rolling out and EA, Ubisoft and others also go fully 10th-gen only on all of their games we will see the good stuff.

@Moonglow Microsoft often adopts games like Atomic Heart as a semi-exclusive, they are multi-platform but they are associated with Xbox and Day 1 on GP makes them feel like an exclusive when it is 80 euros elsewhere.
It is a shame that AH still launched with a Series X version more buggy than the PS5 version. Whatever the reason, Microsoft and devs need to make sure that doesn't repeat itself.

@Fenbops To be fair resident evil that they did was still better than those abominations with Mila Jovovic. The Witcher also had some success in the first season at least.
I think you can never say it in such general terms. Marvel is still the studio that made many great superhero movies, Netflix has dozens of good tv shows and even adaptations of video games (Arcane for example).
People tend to say HBO is the holy grail after this recent Last of Us adaptation, but completely forget how HBO botched the last season of Game of Thrones and how their Watchmen adaptation was also a complete mess. Also people miss how the adaptation of TLoU is probably the easiest of adaptations since every Naughty Dog game is like a TV Series anyway and their cinematic storytelling has always been superior to their gameplay and design.

@Jslade @LordFunkalot I think it depends on more variables. He has been involved with some great movies, such as Dune, and some decent ones such as the first Doctor Strange. If he really is a fan and appreciates the universe, we are safe for now. It still depends on the casting and director and other things.

But in general after the Halo show on Paramount+ and the way "fans" reacted to it, the bar is not very high. Unless Netflix is somehow dedicated to screwing this up, we should be fine.

@Pixelhips Rockstar is making GTA6 as evidenced by leaks. They were always going to make another GTA. It is just that Rockstar, unlike almost any other studio, each time they release game it almost redefines its genre. That sort of art takes time.

@NarutosBiggestFan The amount of time and effort a 60FPS update to RDR2 takes is microscopic next to the gigantic task of making RDR3.
For me RDR2 is the best game of that console generation and probably the generation before it as well. It is the sort of game that felt there was nothing held back, nothing compromised and everything rich, detailed and well done all the way to 11.

How much time do people spend on those storefronts? I think even the storefront I had back in PS3 was adequate. You are supposed to be in the game.

It is saying quite something when the weakest game in your franchise is still overall a very solid game. I really liked it. The campaign, while not truly Gears enough was great fun. It also had a linkable female protagonist in Sofya before reddit had to implode whether Kait was a likeable character (I like Kait).