Murray

too late, not really interested anymore. If its on gamepass I may try it, but for sure will not buy it.

@Lajt
Yeah, and cross-progression is also awesome, all XBox Game Studio Games should have it *lookingAtZenimax =)

Btw what is the difference between cross-progression and playAnywhere? Just another name for it?

I'm praying it will be the best Halo of all time from day one on console too, otherwise I will be very pissed

When I was reading the title, I just thought that the old rumour that you can install win10 on the console is getting real =(

@SegataSanshiro
I also have a PC, I just prefer to play on the big TV (and have less problems compared to PC) and use the PC only for PC-only games.

//GwG isn't included in the sub price//
Why should that be on GamePass for PC? Do you wanna pay for online gaming on PC too?

// Windows store versions of games constantly crashing//
This should be fixed.

// EA Play is a completely separate application from Game Pass and does not have achievements//
This is up to the publisher how they package the games or include Achievements, as compared to the console where they are forced to use the MS store. So MS have no say in how to install them if the publisher decides not to put them into the Windows-Store

//Game Pass is lacking most all of Xbox consoles bonus rewards points//
Since this does not exist in my country, I don't have it on console too, but they should fix it and include more countrys.

//you're asking them to consider the three times in their existence they haven't basically been scorned by Microsof//
Afaik GamePass on PC exists only since around 2 years? So when we look how many games has been relesead since then from Xbox Game Studios, 3 is not such a low number

If you compare GamePass for people who only play on Console or PC, the console player has to pay 50% more to have all console benefits compared to PC.

Sometimes I think pc users only see the stuff where console player has an advantage and not where they have it better.

GamePass PC 10 bucks vs. GamePassUltimate for 15 bucks for console player who also want to play online and have the ea games.

Every xgs game on pc, some first on pc for months (gears tactics), a year ( flight sim) or never ( AoE) on console.

@notleks_
Can you use all the mods on consoles too?

@SegataSanshiro
Then I'm really wondering why the port tooks a whole year

I don't know if porting a game from pc is that much more difficult then porting a console game to pc.
I just recognise that every console game from xgs release day and date on pc too, but every pc game from xgs comes later to consoles or doesn't even come to console.
Would be interesting to know, what problems took 1 year to port it to console

@StonyKL

...so they can say 'ha-ha' to people who own....

This is more a thing for timed exclusive stuff,
because thats the only 'benefit' you have as a fan.

When MS buys a Publisher fans are happy because they get more games in GamePass.

@Spaceman-Spiff
is there a standard for the fps range VRR has, or does every tv maker has a different range?

I can see a pattern.
Sony made long exclusive deals with Bethesda Studios, MS bought Bethesda.
Sony made long exclusive deals with Square Enix, MS buy Square Enix.

;-P

@TrueAssassin86x
Do you need so much time to decide if you wanna buy a game or not?
I mean there is a sale every week on the xbox store. I actually prefer week long sales, so the games in the sale can change every week.

@SegataSanshiro
you could say the same about console games which comes day and date on pc too.
They all could come earlier to console if the focus first on console, why should it be different for historically pc games?

Now just make XBox and PC cross-play, please.

@VenomousAlbino
I would say fans like you are the problem, because they defend every stupid decision their favorite company does.

You really talk bad about developers and say they are stupid when they where developing games for the vita? When these developers has been the only ones who produced games for this platform for several years because sony stopped long ago do it themself?

Sony even sold sdk's (as pushsquare reported) recently and did not told the developers about the closing of the store, how nice of sony.

@Xeno_Aura
Several years ago I also played some multiplayer games on PC, but then we used Teamspeak.
What happen with Teamspeak is it still relevant or is now mostly Discord used?

@Beasley2K
getting them for 'free' with gamepass is very little benefit?

I would say timed exclusivity has exactly 0 benefit for the users of a platform.

@Stocksy
thats a one way street, god forbid you have the old ps4 in the bedroom and want to play the game there too /s
With a xbox I can play on several consoles/xcloud and just continue where I stopped at the last device

Actually what will happen if one game on the console is on quick resume and I start it on xCloud and then after some progress I switch back to the console?

Do I loose the quick resume state (it loads the new save game from the cloud) or the progress I made in xCloud?

Quick resume kind of collide with play anywhere

3. When I start a game and another game would fall out of quick resume, a popup window where I can continue to start the game or start the other game so I can save it properly

@blinx01
I mean its clear why, but it feels so wrong^^
I hope next year we will start to see the benefit of all the new studios they bought in the last years.

And 2 of them will probably release this year more games for ps than for xbox

hmm, no message

@TheFrenchiestFry
Its funny that no one said that Outer Worlds2, Psychonaut 3 , Wasteland 4, Hellblade 2, etc. have to be multiplat, but on the other side Fallout5, TES6, Doom have to be multiplat.

I mean all of those are sequels to existing multiplat games.

@UltimateOtaku91
you forget the 30% sony gets from the sale

And from the 10millions sold games, most of it will not be from full price.

Its just like MS say "hey Jim, you made a good deal with Bethesda so we can't release 2 games from our studios to xbox for a whole year, as a bonus we will release most future games on ps too"

It kind of sucks that the next two games will be ps timed exclusives and they still will not make all games from now on Xbox/PC exclusive.
Just feels wrong to me

I see many EA-Access games coming =)

I smell a sony deal^^

@Only1PJA

....and I dont see that happening by limiting the user base.

If there is a console maker which is not limiting the user base, then its microsoft (XBox consoles, PC, xCloud).

And how much energy is saved, while people stay at thome gaming instead of driving somewhere to the disco, bar, restaurant, football game etc.?

That cell phones last roughly 1-2 years until replaced is ok, but a console which lasts 7 years is not enough? Strange people.

@Only1PJA
This works only once, after that all will assume it will happen for every game in the future too.

BC >>>> new classic console

I believe it, when I see it

So he never buys T-Shirts ?
S,M,X,XL, wtf?

what about the auto update?
I hate it when I want to play and have to wait until the update is downloaded and installed

@Terrin
how do you know?

I would like to test it, but my PC is too weak and summer 2021 is soooooooooo far away =(

@Kefka2589
Yeah I know, so they actually mean the same as on android, just streaming games?

Maybe I read it wrong, xCloud I could see on the Switch.

But GamePass? They would have to port every game to the Switch, which I don't see it will happen.

Or do people actually mean xCloud when they say GamePass ?

Timed exclusive or permanent?

So its kind of a 1 year timed exclusive for PC.
/s

It seems, sony did not pay enough for the exclusive stuff^^

Still waiting for 'Far Cry Instincts Predator' to go on sale^^

@Jacko11
But it make sense for sony to not release their games on PC? How much money do they loose? Is that not stupid? /s

for sure, would be perfect for my gaming room =)

@mousieone
how does sony do anything for their customer, when they just deny xbox user to get content?

@StylesT
MS spend money, I get free games with game pass.

Sony spend money, sony customers get 'nothing' only rival console get stuff later.

I for sure prefer the MS way of spending money

I don't think I will use it in the near future, but its definitly something which helps increasing the GamePass-Subs for a large number