Indiana Jones And The Great Circle 'Story DLC' Confirmed

Only reason I was going to buy this day 1 was on Xbox to support them competing. But if it is just gonna be on everything, I might as well just wait for a steam sale to buy it.

For a physical edition, this is the worst one I've seen since the Starfield one that had a watch that worked for a couple months if you're lucky. Meanwhile my 8 year old, Gear S3, is still going strong.

Couldn't even be bothered to give a physical art book.

One of the worst collectors editions I've seen in awhile.

• A "jumbo" steelbook case. Not a big box PC box.
• A blank journal. It doesn't even appear to be Indiana Jones branded.
• An 11" globe with a plane magnet with a hidden compartment. Kinda neat but too bulky for my needs.
• Stone relic item. Kinda neat.
• Prive tag. $189. No way! Thanks for including the game though.

There are really going mega with this game which is fantastic.
So dam and really really hope the game lives up to this.

@InterceptorAlpha Just play on gamepass it doesn't look that great anyways

Any idea where the CE can be bought in the UK, @Liam_Doolan?

Hidden meaning behind the asterisk. *DLC Timed Exclusive for PS5, Coming to Xbox at a later date

Kidding, relax in kidding.

@InterceptorAlpha Competing doesn't mean they are 'competing' on the number of Consoles 'sold' - they can compete by number of Gamers in their 'Games', the amount of 'revenue', their software generates, the number of top games they release a year (best Publisher) etc.

Microsoft aren't just competing with Sony, but also EA, Ubisoft, tencent etc as well. They want to get more people into their IP's, their Games than their hardware can ever possibly reach. For 'Xbox' customers, the advantage of 'Xbox' hardware is the fact that Games will come 'first' to Xbox and will be available on Game Pass at no extra cost. They are 'exclusive' - whether for a few months, years or permanently Exclusive.

Its not 'all' games - It's a game that was also announced 'before' MS took over Zenimax. So far, games like Starfield, Redfall, Flight Sim, Avowed, Fable, Perfect Dark, Clockwork Revolution etc etc are all 'exclusive' to Xbox and games like CoD, Minecraft & Doom remain multi-platform - but again, they'll be on Game Pass day 1 on 'Xbox' which you can play on Xbox at no extra cost - which before the deal to acquire would not be on Game Pass and, in the case of CoD, likely to have 'benefits' for Playing on Playstation...

The way some talk, you'd think that Xbox Consoles had no 'exclusives' or 'advantages' - yet these games are 'exclusive' at launch on Xbox or at the very least, available in Game Pass at no extra cost. If a 'few' end up on PS, how is that different from Sony releasing on PC - may as well just buy a PC as you'll get every Xbox and Sony Game as well as all those 'exclusive' PC games you can't play on either Console. PC has more games inc Sony's (as well as their 3rd Party deals to keep Final Fantasy away from Xbox for example) so instead of buying both a PS5 and Series X, invest in a PC to play even more games. A SteamDeck console has both Xbox and Sony games...

Buying on Sony will still benefit MS as Publisher and IP owner - they'll see it as 'extracting' money from their 'rivals' - money they perhaps wouldn't have gotten otherwise and justifying their decision to release. They'll see it as getting a 'Sony' gamer into a MS owned IP and that IP is generating revenue for MS. They are one of the 'biggest' Publishers on Playstation now with a number of IP's in their Charts as best selling games of the year...

For Xbox customers - you get to play these 'first' and at no extra cost to Game Pass Ultimate Subscribers. By the time it release on PS5, Xbox gamers can play the game to completion and less chance of it being 'spoiled' too...

@BAMozzy always there to defend MS eh?

First it was no games to ps5, then it was ‘old’ games now it’s upcoming titles.

Not to mention this was a title MS specifically paid for exclusivity to keep off PS.

That journal looks pretty cheap, like an afterthought to fill out a thin CE. I've seen those at Art Supply stores for 12 buying papers.
I don't understand how ANYONE can have faith in Bethesda CE's- famously terrible to deal with if your stuff turns out to be broken or wrong

@Ricky-Spanish I will. It is just, as with most games I like, or am hyped for, like Kunitsu Gami, I prefer to buy them regardless of of Gamepass.

@BAMozzy I'm strictly speaking hardware, and that should be obvious.

Without hardware competition Sony, and by extension, any business always behaves poorly. We saw that when Sega left the hardware market. Again when they had the advantage with the PS2. Again with the launch of the PS3. And once more still with the PS5.

To add to this, if Microsoft goes software only, they are in no way competing with Sony anymore. That's like saying EA is competing with Sony. You can't say they're competing when every game sold nets Sony money from licensing fees. Which was what, about 30% of a game's puschad cost?

I am not an Xbox customer. I am a video game consumer. I own every platform, and my VR treadmill alone is 3x the costs of consoles. Hell, even my last PC build build, about 1.5 the cost of a console out performed the 2.5 console generation.

I am purely concerned with preserving competition for a healthy market and your response shows you support anything but.

Xbox as hardware has no advantages.
So I'm not sure where you're getting that. You have a fragment ecosystem developers are hesitsnt to work in. You have poor support for indie developers. Everything that drops on Xbox day 1 I can get on my PC. Every game that goes on sale on Xbox I can get cheaper on Steam. I get better performance too, as well free online.

Xbox used to offer tangible benefits, particularly in he exclusives, and even quality online console gaming. However they squandered any advantage they have are are in their current position.

As history has taught us multiple times, when hardware has advantages and no number moving exclusives, they die off, and the market is worse for it.

You're free to feel how you want, however no amount of text will go contrary to historic fact.

Thank you, @DreamlandGem. I was only able to find it in the US when I looked earlier. Unfortunately, it says it is sold out at the moment, but I will keep trying. Thank you for your help...

@BAMozzy do you just put quotes on random words?

@BAMozzy An essay wasn't needed to explain you're upset to see MS giving up on exclusives. I love my XSX but there truly is almost zero reason to own a physical Xbox at this point, aside from BWC and free cloud storage.

The new DLC is coming first to.... Nintendo Switch 😂

@PsBoxSwitchOwner How do you know the terms of the deal? MS never announced that they paid for this to be 'exclusive' for any time, let alone around 3-6mnths as this looks.

It was announced BEFORE MS bought Zenimax and may well have had 'no' exclusivity AT ALL and what they 'negotiated' was a 3-6mnth 'exclusivity' period. They had Starfield and Redfall which are 'full' exclusivity.

Its only Fanboys that are crying - I always said that even IF the games release day/date on PS5 - as IP's like CoD and Minecraft are, then Xbox still has the benefit of Game Pass. Yes you can play CoD on PS5, but Xbox Game Pass subscribers get to play it free. Indiana Jones is still 'exclusive' to Xbox this Holiday season...

I couldn't care less if 'Every' game was released on every platform - in fact I'd be happier. I couldn't care less if Sony gamers (I am one too). Since buying Zenimax, their first 2 releases didn't even release on Xbox until after they were on PS and now we have 'exclusives' inc the only Console to get Indiana Jones this Holiday season - something that certainly wouldn't have happened without paying 8bn for Zenimax and selling on PS5 too will help offset me playing it free on Game Pass.

CoD too isn't 'exclusive' after paying 70bn - it is NOW on Game Pass day/date and unlike the past 'decade', will never have content 'ONLY on Playstation'. It may not be 'exclusive' but it is a 'win' compared to the situation it was before.

Whether you think the deal was about MS ensuring all those games/IP's would be 'Exclusive' (not timed, but permanent), the deal seems more about ensuring ALL those games release on Xbox First and foremost. ensuring those games will be on Game Pass for Xbox Game Pass customers - all of that was NOT guaranteed - CoD has never been on a Sub service and never would under Kotick, May even of had Sony making another deal for CoD so Xbox/PC 'misses' out - won't happen now...

Its not defending MS, its being realistic and not an emotional fanboy who has no idea of the real situation to make statements like MS paid to have Indiana Jones Exclusively for Xbox and cannot release on PS5 at all, ever, just to appease some Fanboys...

They could've included the Great Circle, a fedora or a whip and it would've sold.

@EVIL-C And Game Pass to play those games locally on Hardware for 'Free' - No other Console will let you play Indiana Jones this Holiday Day 1, as well as Flight Sim, Avowed, Fable, Perfect Dark, Call of Duty, Doom, Forza, Gears, Elder Scrolls, Clockwork Revolution, State of Decay, Halo, Fallout or South of Midnight.

Even if 'some' release on PS5 making money for Xbox too as you have no choice but to 'buy' the game(s) as and when MS 'choose' to release - if they 'ever' do. There are still full exclusives on Xbox - Flight Sim, Forza, Gears, Halo, State of Decay etc are all, and still remain fully exclusive on Console - although again SteamDeck and Handheld PC's are 'consoles' too by design and so nothing is 'console' exclusive these days as they'll end up on steam/pc 'consoles'.

Of course you can play on PC day/date so don't 'need' a console, can also play on Cloud no doubt so again won't need a 'physical' box - but you can't play on Playstation this year anyway.

So the ONLY Console Hardware that lets you play 'locally' (not streamed) and/or at no extra cost Day/date via Game Pass in Series S/X - same as it was for games like Hifi-Rush, Grounded or Pentiment. The only console you can play CoD and Doom for 'free' Day 1 is Series S/X so along with games like Perfect Dark, Fable, Clockwork Revolution, Blade and Avowed - there is 'reasons' to own an Xbox Console.

Whilst you maybe able to buy CoD, Doom and eventually indiana Jones too, doesn't mean you'll get to play Fable or Perfect Dark - certainly not the day they launch and may need to wait until PS6 for some 'Series X' games if they take as long as Sea of thieves did.

Therefore there is a reason to buy an Xbox and for 'exclusives' - whether timed (like Indiana Jones) or permanent (like Flight Sim or Forza) - The ONLY console to play on Hardware on Day 1 is Xbox - the only console that also offers Game Pass!!

@BAMozzy So take away GamePass, Xbox has pretty much nothing left. 😕 GP is nice, but I personally don't use it that much. I prefer to just buy stuff when it gets cheaper. And anyone who already has a decent PC can use PC GamePass, reducing the appeal of Xbox hardware further. More prices increases again so soon won't help either. These are just my objective observations, from someone who wants the hardware to continue. The Series hardware is barely at half of what Xbone reached nearly 4 years in (around 28M now). Not good.
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@EVIL-C Again - the Console isn't that important overall - MS have the PC as its also a Microsoft Windows based platform - the original 'Windows' based gaming platform that MS released games on long before catering to the 'budget' end of gaming. Xbox was after all a 'low cost' way of bring PC games to that audience - DirectX in a box for console pricing...

Since they now support PC with their entire releases, then PC gamers don't need an Xbox to play. So all those PC gamers that bought a console for exclusives, the games they can't get on PC, then they aren't going to buy an Xbox. They've lost that market since the 360 days so chances are, they'll never get those back.

The fact is that Microsoft is much more associated with PC and they have that 'platform' too. It may not be 'locked' like a Console so MS can't 'monetise' it in the same way, force people to pay for online, extract more money from the gamer on games etc, but PC is their platform too and also the other hardware that Game Pass allows for downloading and local play of Games. If I buy 'Starfield' from Microsoft store - I can play on Xbox or PC - my 'Xbox' profile allows me to play Games on PC or to put it another way, my Microsoft account lets me play on PC or Xbox so if I have a 'decent' PC, why buy an Xbox?

The Console isn't that important - whilst I will agree that it is still important to offer a console as a 'low cost' and simple solution (plug/play) for those that want/prefer that over a PC that may cost 'more' or put off by 'PC issues' - but its just an 'option' and others may 'prefer' to play on PC whilst others may even settle for playing on Cloud.

Cloud might not be 'good enough' for the hardcore gamer - but there are millions, if not billions who are happy playing more 'casually' - hence MS's big push for the Mobile sector too - especially as Mobiles have become more like computers and able to play more than just 'simple' games like Snake or Candy Crush.

Point is MS has a 3 pronged attack - Cloud (still very much in its infancy and reliant on infrastructure), PC (their 'first' gaming hardware they made games for) and Console (their own 'DirectX Box' for those who prefer the fixed spec lower cost way in to Xbox gaming). All 3 are MS platforms, are Game Pass platforms! Even if you just have a Student laptop, you may not need to buy a Series S/X to play or even upgrade from an XB1.

Of course MS would prefer it if you bought an Xbox over a Playstation and the Xbox still is important in that particular sector but Hardcore gamers with PC's for example will likely buy a PS5 for 'exclusives' because Xbox release their games on their PC platform day/date too - thus not giving PC gamers a reason to buy the Hardware.

Again it comes down to just that very narrow minded 'Console' gamer who thinks that their 'box' is more important than any other box, but its not even the 'only' box to sell Game Pass for example - unlike Playstation which is the only hardware with PS+. You don't need a Series S/X to play Starfield via Game Pass - you can play it on a mobile or XB1 with cloud or PC - its still part of 'Xbox' though despite not requiring a Console.

Announcing DLC for a game that hasn't released yet, is a Ubisoft move. I despise it.