EA Details May 2023's Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Update, Here Are The Full Patch Notes

@Xiovanni 😂 an article of VGC said that their launch sales were 30% up on the launch of Fallen Order. Baffles me why people would buy any game at launch, but especially now with the state of AAA gaming. As long as people keep contributing to these sales percentages, companies will keep doing this. All they have to do is release an apology statement after launch.

I have been a collector for a long time, but at this point, physical games on Xbox or Playstation is just a waste of money, plastic and resources. Digital distribution won.

@BRT15 I enjoyed Fallen Order on Game Pass so much that I immediately wanted to have this full price upon release - for the first time for a game in ten years or so.

And I loved every minute of it, 41 hours in. It runs mostly great on Quality mode and oh boy, the story, the characters, the action, sense of discovery and platforming are awesome.

To me, the hatehypetrain is incredibly overrated. It’s an awesome game.

@Bartig buddy it's not about "hatehypetrain" (don't even know what that means) but objectively this is the only industry where someone could sell you a broken, unfinished product at full price and be ok with it, When you can get the finished product, whenever that is, at a fraction of the price.

If you feel you got your moneys worth that's good for you but the principle behind it is not ok.

@BRT15 I agree about the principle, but what I’m trying to make clear is that in the Quality mode - I like my games to look good - Jedi Survivor never feels like an unfinished product.

@Bartig yeah my comment was on the broader industry and what's going on. Though Survivor on PC seems a lot more broken than the consoles.

I hope they haven't stopped work on improving performance of the console versions, even at 30fps there are still noticeable stutters while traversing the world.

@Exerion76 At least with Switch, you are saving on internal drive space by having the cartridge. 👍

@GamingFan4Lyf even that isn't always the case. Those Switch cards come with different storage capacities and the higher the capacity the more expensive they are for publishers to ship their games on. So third party Switch games will often ship on cards that have, say, an 8GB capacity but then require a massive (in comparison) download if you actually want to play the game.

@Markatron84 Fair enough, my scope of reference is mostly first-party games. I had Dark Souls and it was all on card and I believe even Skyrim was all on card. I don't have either, anymore.

@BRT15 the only industry? How come is it common knowledge, for decades now, to never buy brand new car but rather after facelift or at the end of it's generation?

Unless you really need specific product and want to be efficient with your money you should never buy any brand new product, with computer games it has just been very visible in past maybe 10 years.

Just look at intel GPUs, Atleast they did not price them insanely high but still below average product that will be polished maybe in 3-4 years.

I was playing yesterday (Series X) and noticed a couple of times where environmental textures weren’t always loading straight away, which is kinda disappointing for a AAA game. Hope they fix this ASAP.

@Sherhi as someone who works as an engineer in the automotive industry, I can tell you that is not true. Simply because facelifts of model updates typically have not only visual updates but also technical updates to certain components where there may have been a new design to it but this isn't the point.

The point, there is 0% chance that a manufacturer would put out a product that they know is flawed 100% of the time to sell to the public. For example sake, in automotive, a Mercedes or a BMW selling a 6 cylinder car would never say, "oh well 2 of the 6 cylinders are misfiring on all our cars, but f**k it were gonna sell it anyway". That would never happen.

If you're talking about manufacturing defects, then all of the happen due to various reasons in the manufacturing process, be it a machine fault or human error but again a quality assurance or management team would never intentionally approve a 100% flawed product in the manufacturing to sell to the customers. And this applies to every manufacturing industry because people will generally just not buy a broken product.

So yeah, this only seems to happen in gaming. I can't even think of other media (movies, music) where this happens.

@BRT15 Some games seem to never go on sale like Elden Ring. But yeah, EA / Ubisoft games discount very fast. If I can at least buy the top bundle for base cost and already interested in the game.

@BRT15 game studios never claim their game sucks as well so I don't see your point, it's kind of weird tbh...and for cars yes it is true, just because you claim your work in that field does not bring anything significant to the table...like Peugeot had timing belt dissolving and basically destroying the engine with their 1.2 Puretech engines some 5 years ago on their new models back then (they cut costs in manufacturing so built quality went down), for most people happening after the warranty. 1.0 Ecoboost engines bursting into flames few years ago. My coworker has 1.2 TSI in his Golf and it's well known to leak oil like crazy (he is at 1 liter per 1000kms, mechanic told him it's well known and it could go up to 5l/1000kms)...the list goes on and on. Most facelifts do just some design chances which is just some thin metal on the outsides that's why it's advised, obviously if it's new engine then it doesn't apply. Are you sure you work in that industry?

@BRT15 And how about the Xbox 360 with its Death Ring of Red? Or Chinese media players and wireless earbuds? It’s not limited to games, sadly, but happens in more consumer segments.

@BRT15 I mean come on. This game wasn't broken at launch. It just didn't run as well as we expect. That's more of an unreal engine 4 thing and I hope this prompts everyone to move to UE5. I agree that games like redfall shouldn't have been released in that condition Jedi was, and is, a great game. Glad they are tweaking it to run better and get rid of bugs.