So while readying some threads I noticed that I wasn't seeing posts by a user like if I was blocked thing is I never had any interaction with said user, and I don't have them blocked. So could this be some kind of bug?
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@Tasuki didn't they add an option for blocking users in a way that not only you don't see their posts but that person cannot also see yours?
I remember something about it but can only see the ignore function tbf
@Tasuki There are certain users I can't see their posts either. I know they have posted because I can see their Avatar as the most recent reply, but if I go to the Forum, their replies are hidden and also I notice 'gaps' in the number of Posts - for example it will jump from post #11 to post #13, (not show #12).
I don't have any blocked users myself so I just assumed that they have me Blocked themselves...
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@Balta666@BAMozzy Yeah I know they have that feature, quite annoying actually but I have explained myself over and over on how this is a bad feature but management doest agree.
Thing is the user that I don't see any posts, I never had any interaction with on any of the four sites so that is what makes me think it's bugged. Unless so for some reason that user just decides to randomly block someone by pulling names from a hat or something. I would reach out to the user but obviously I can't. So it lead me to think that perhaps its bugged.
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@Tasuki I don't know if its 'bugged' or not - just because you haven't really had any interaction with a specific user, at least not that you may recall, that doesn't stop them from adding you to their ignored/block list.
They could be 'offended' about the amount you post or even the length of posts, the way you choose to format/present yourself etc, not just ignore for what you said or what opinion you expressed.
Take your opinions on Jim Ryan in recent times, instead of interacting with you, they may just choose to ignore you/your posts for that reason and as a result, you can no longer see their comments and you have not had any interactions to explain why. For me, it could be 'my' opinions, maybe the amount of text I post or even the way I use apostrophes for emphasis on certain words (seems to 'really' annoy some in the US even though its an accepted practice in the UK instead of italics, bold etc) but I'll never know because I can't interact with them or see anything they post.
I don't know if its 'bugged' or just the way its designed. They may have just chosen to ignore you without any interaction to give you some indication as to why you can't see their posts anymore
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@BAMozzy Ok what you said makes sense. That just wrong that another user can block someone just because even without any interaction. Just another reason that the block system is a mistake.
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@Tasuki Just means you have been blocked. I have done that to the users that I feel have unhinged responses (the racist or homomisia folks for instance) and I don’t want them to interact with me either. Just means somebody wants absolutely nothing to do with you. It happens. Just read the posts you can see and go about your day.
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It has been posted that across Hookshot sites the block feature has been removed. Well, it still exists, but now users need to request it for each case. So now, they first ignore and then they request block if they consider it necessary.
@Banjo- Sounds like a really stupid idea that makes the entire block feature redundant. The entire point of a block feature is to allow people to self-moderate, if you have to rely upon requests then you are back to relying upon site moderators to make decisions. Way to make the site way more toxic. Whoever made that decision didn't think it through at all. Very stupid.
@JayJ No the site is less toxic if anything. Giving people the ability to choose who sees what posts in a public form that is a stupid idea. This isnt a social media platform like Facebook or Twitter and as such shouldn't be treated as one.
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@JayJ Considering the large amount of vocal multi-account trolls on these sites, I really miss the block feature. According to the comments about this matter, only one user was abusing the block feature, but overall it was a way to keep the place clean and nice with genuine gamers.
@Tasuki I really don't see how someone blocking other users could be an issue for anyone. If someone doesn't want to interact with other users, well maybe those people should do some self-reflection and evaluate their behavior for why someone wouldn't want to interact with them. Like if people are blocking me I couldn't care less, I figure they must have their reasons and I might even take that as a sign to think about the way I interact with users on this site.
@Banjo- Yeah that's my desire for self-moderating by blocking users really. There's just far too many people who either intentionally troll or are just highly argumentative and always trying to stir up conflict. I know most users I blocked in the past met that description, I simply blocked them because I didn't want to deal with them trying to troll or fight me all the time. It's also usually the kind of stuff where it's not offensive in the sense where it would get moderated, it's just really annoying for me and not the kind of interactions I want to deal with on this site. Blocking them seems to be by far the most harmless solution, no need for banning anyone or eliminating their ability to express themselves on this site, it simply makes it so I don't have to deal with them or the toxicity of them trying to attack me. That's the problem with only being able to ignore, some people will still target you for personal reasons and try to create an issue out of the views you might express with other users.
@JayJ There are people so insecure and immature that have multiple accounts to support themselves and spend the whole day trying to convince every other stranger that they are right or try to silence whoever disagrees. I must be at another level because I don't care if people agree with me or not. Personally, I don't care if someone hates Xbox/Sony/Nintendo as long as they don't become hostile towards their respective fans, like the random rambling about games or companies that is inoffensive, but it becomes a serious problem for the community when the inner hatred they hold is aimed at other users. The users that can't stand somebody else disagreeing with their agenda, enter an overreaction state and become disrespectful or just annoying and insistent. It's not enough for them to disagree one time, I accept that if it's polite, but keep replying to the same person ad nauseam, even though they know it won't go anywhere because you are ignoring them. If that happens in real life, you can walk away (or whatever you want to do), but here you need tools and if I'm being addressed insistently and disrespectfully, I should have the right to use them. Sometimes, they don't break the rules unmistakably, sometimes they do but the moderation comes late and other times they just erase the comments, or use another account...
I'm here to express my opinion about the topics and to read other opinions that I may find interesting whether I agree with or not, but not to have the ultimate fan hounding and insulting me. Blocking was the most useful feature in this regard, eliminating all the useless interactions that are a total waste of time and energy. Now you can request it, but there are multiple-account users and you are supposed to justify each request. Blocking is better than a moderator editing comments, because they don't care about moderation nor the community rules. I have seen people being moderated and do the same thing again and again. I have seen people being banned and coming back with the same attitude, even years later! What do you answer them? "Please, ignore me"? They won't do that. Definitive bans and blocks are the only thing that work with them.
There are much worse places to hang out so I guess this is why I'm here and because there are users I have been interacting with for many years and appreciate them and their points of view, even when I disagree. In your case, it's your honesty what I appreciate.
@Banjo- Yeah I have definitely encountered some people who do weird stuff like that or try to chase me around the site or a comments section and fight me on everything I say. It's especially problematic when I encounter the fanboy types who seem to need everyone to side with them on a game/console and accuse anyone expressing a contrary opinion of trolling. It's like IMO trolling is more so when you're trying to get negative interaction out of other users, but some people are so extreme or dedicated that they act like anyone with differing taste must be intentionally trying to piss them off or something. It's like these people are actively trying to create problems for me simply by viewing my posts so why wouldn't I want to block people like that? I mean what's the harm in blocking somebody like that? I don't like the idea of having to plea a case with some moderator just to have them blocked because then you are at the mercy of someone else's judgment and who knows what sort of personal biases they might have.
@JayJ Absolutely right. I consider trolling taking things personally and pestering other users because of their opinions, not disliking a game even if it's the most critically acclaimed game ever (which means nothing to me).
@JayJ Conversations become incoherent due to only being able to see parts of it especially if you have a user who abuses the block feature. Then you get whole sections of threads that are impossible to follow and as a result users stop posting and the forums just become a meaningless part of the site. I mean what's the point of a forum if people aren't willing to converse and share thoughts because nobody knows what's anyone is talking about.
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