Redfall is one of Xbox's major AAA releases for the first half of 2023, and while the game will of course launch day one on Xbox Game Pass, a new European leak has given us our first glimpse at Xbox's confirmed price hikes.
According to well-known leaker BillbilKun (who was once the source of some accurate Game Pass and Games with Gold leaks), Redfall will cost €79.99 in European markets. That price will almost certainly translate to $70 in the US, a $10 jump on recent Xbox first party titles.
Interestingly, as you can see above, the leak also reveals a 'Deluxe Edition Upgrade' for Redfall, meaning Bethesda likely has major DLC planned for Arkane Studios' first new IP under Xbox.
The leak doesn't showcase what we might get from such an upgrade, but typically, these sorts of packages contain all of the game's DLC bundled into one purchase. As of late, the Forza Horizon games have provided a similar upgrade path; useful for those playing the base game on Xbox Game Pass!
As mentioned, this leak, if accurate, is our first real evidence of Xbox game prices increasing in 2023. Back in December, Microsoft confirmed the move via a company statement.
What do you make of this news? Interested to see what comes from Redfall's Deluxe upgrade? Let us know in the comments!
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I’ve been vocal against price increases when Sony and others raised theirs and it’s no different here now that Xbox are doing it. I can’t justify £70 for any game on any system and I feel Xbox especially has to start delivering better games when they are charging that premium. They also need way less microtransactions that remind me of mobile games in their titles if they want to justify the new price tag.
Gamepass does soften the blow but I strongly dislike these new price increases across the board.
€80 AND the inevitable extras? No thanks.
Also do people buy DLC for Game Pass games? If the game is taken off the service then that money is gone unless you pony up for the full game.
Price rises are never popular, and in a perfect world wouldn't happen. But personally I can fully understand why this is happening.
The cost of EVERYTHING has gone up, that includes the cost to run a studio, pay employees, etc. not to mention the cost and development time for AAA games. While I don't like it, I do understand and accept it was an inevitability at some point. I said the same when PS5 games went up and I say the same now. I know that won't be a popular opinion, but it is what it is.
That said as a consumer it does make me less likely to BUY a game Day 1, though I don't do that often anymore anyway since last gen introduced far too many broken releases Day 1 (worst version, highest price) I prefer to wait 3-6+ months for a better game at a lower price for all but the best titles.
But at least with Microsoft I don't have to BUY theirs at £70 as first party games are on Game Pass which, for now at least, looks even better value.
Won’t really cost anyone anything for a while, Xbox don’t release games!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@PhileasFragg I buy DLC for GP games that I really like and I want to support, if the game leaves and it something I am interested in having "forever" I will pick the game up too before it leaves or at sale. (obviously here Redfall is unlikely to ever leave)
It's basically how I treat DVDs in this "streaming era", stuff I love I'll buy some version of it, stuff I simply liked I wont.
@PhileasFragg This is a really good point which MS should address. I wouldn’t necessarily mind buying some DLC for a gamepass game if there was guarantees it would remain on the service forever or they provide a specific date for removal well in advance. As it stands you could buy DLC for something and then it’s removed from the service the shortly after with just few weeks notice
I do not agree with the price rise, just like I don't with other publishers. The only thing softening the blow is gamepass, offering people a choice, but I still don't think it completely shields them from critisism. As a father of 2 children I just can't justify £70 games, and will just wait for price drops or the games to drop on subscription. On a personal level I would prefer they drop some of the needless production values and lower the cost of making the games. Gameplay is king
I don't really care as long as the game is fun 70 euro's 80 euro's
I personally don't care as i don't buy games on xbox at all now but i find this a bit cheeky they've released ***** all for a year and now they finally have some games to release they instantly raise prices.
It is what it is, If the game is super short I wouldn't be paying these current prices until later on, right about now having a backlog on multiple machines is a bonus.
@Kaloudz xbox gamepass doesn't have those new games, i have the xgp and am happy to spend 80 euros for a fun game
Not a game around that I would pay $70 for.
I'll be waiting on new games to drop in price before buying anyway, so not a total loss for me.
I would never pay more than £50 for ANY game - regardless of how 'big' it is, how well polished and executed it is etc. I know that 'costs' have gone up across the board, but I am NEVER that desperate to play ANY game that I'll pay more than £50.
A 'brand new' game isn't likely to 'cost' more to make than a game released 6months ago that's now £40 or less so I can wait for games to 'drop' in price before I consider purchasing.
In the meantime, I have my back catalogue of games to finish as well as access to a whole range of games on Game Pass - some brand new releases as well as older games I missed, and failing that, I also have GwG/PS+ games to tide me over until games drop to a price I'm willing to pay.
Fortunately, with Game Pass, I don't 'need' to wait or pay the initial asking price. OK so I probably won't get any 'deluxe' edition content, but I can add that if I think the game is worth it after playing enough of it to make an informed decision.
The price hike of games is keeping with the 'industry' standards but I think it just makes Game Pass a 'bit more' appealing, offering a bit more 'value' which may push more people to 'Subscribe' over Purchasing. MS said they felt the Console has reached its 'maximum' saturation point but if Console owners perceive GP to offer better value, then those will Subscribe.
I still see people only thinking about 1st Party AAA exclusives and 'wanting' at least 2 games they want to play to consider GP as 'good' value. 2 games now cost even 'more' now so GP offers 'better' value. Starfield and Redfall for example would cost a lot more to purchase day 1 than a 'year' of GPU so it works out 'cheaper' to sub to Game Pass and therefore may encourage 'more' to sign up instead of pay the 'premium' for playing a 'new' game at launch, often when its at its worst as its 'rushed' out to release to 'sell'...
@themightyant everything may be going up, but there is a limit on what people feel is acceptable and 70 is really pushing that. it is becoming an ever increasing expensive hobby especially with dlc etc. it is going to push people away.
Sony and MS are poor for doing it when making good profits. MS more so for doing it now they have games.
its a worrying trend. Factorio, a 6yr old game has announced a $5 Increase because inflation. yet costs now must be much lower
@PhileasFragg I think that would be 80eur inclusive of all of the extras as its the deluxe version, assuming they follow the forza Horizon model.
It's a first party game so unlikely to leave anytime soon unless there are rights issues, and even then they usually sell it dirt cheap directly before it is removed. This is what they did with Forza previously, when the rights for the cars and/or music expire they announce it is leaving game pass and sell the Ultimate pack cheaply(I think I paid around £6 for it) in the month or so before it goes.
How long before were basically getting barebones versions released on gamepass, w/ the expectation you'll pay an upgrade fee?
If you look at prices of games when they were launched for earlier consoles and then adjust for inflation, £70 is less than we paid 10 years ago. Its not outrageous in any way, especially seeing as games take more effort and cost to develop now.
If people are finding life tough and can no longer afford to be a day one release day buyer - at least you have alternative now to keep you playing fresh games. I didnt see it as evil when Sony did it, and I don't see it as evil now that Xbox are doing it.
It was however very sneaky for Phil to state "we dont see us putting up prices in the near future" while they were not releasing anything, but then stick the prices up just before they start to deliver anything! cheeky
High prices and thats digital downloads. Not like the old days when you had a nice box, manual and extras (map etc). No excuse for these greedy publishers.
@stvevan I agree there is a limit on what people feel is acceptable. I feel the same. As I mentioned I buy less games Day 1 than I used to even when they were still 60 RRP.
I also agree that DLC , MTX etc. adds cost to SOME games. But it's part of the reason I was mostly OK with Sony making their first party games £70 because they usually release them feature complete and don't cut them up with MTX, Season Passes, in game currencies, micro DLC etc. Plus their quality is usually so high. i.e. I'd rather pay £70 for something brilliant and complete like God of War, Spider-man, Starfield (hopefully) etc. than £50-£60 for something not as good and riddled with MTX, micro DLC, in game currencies etc.
The trouble for me is when companies want to do both (E.g. Ubisoft etc.) and want to sell at £70 AND have Season passes, in game currencies, MTX etc. That is not acceptable and I won't pay £60 let alone £70 for game like that.
And if the price is too much? No problem the ball is OUR court, just wait a few months for the price to come down, no one has to have it Day 1.
@stvevan Re: Factorio. I actually thought the devs handled that pretty well. It's worth noting it's a massive outlier. A super-weird edge case. It's one of the highest rated games on PC ever and they have NEVER had a Steam sale, not even once. It was $30 and now it's $35.
They said they wanted to respected the players who bought the game and not reward players who “hold off” hoping to buy at a lower price. Whilst I think that's a strange move, (it's more akin to Nintendo) it's their prerogative and I can respect that. In the Steam communities I saw most people also accepted that.
How long until GP gets a hike too...
Charge $120 for it! I won't buy because ....... game pass baby BABY!
@Sebatrox I'm assuming that standard editions of 1st party games will still release on GP Day 1, however I can see a rise in the cost of GP. I don't see Microsoft retracting on full releases to "game trials" personally. Could be wrong, but they'd get some flack.
Luckily this games coming to GamePass, £70 games is a little steep even for me. It's bad enough on PlayStation, to the point that unless it's something I want Day 1 I'm waiting for a sale
@J_Mo_Money well you dont see much far as your noise....
yesterday sony raised the prices....today microsoft...you think raising games prices wont raise the service price ...i will gamble with my balls that gamepass will be 18$ soon instead of 10$ and if ABK go thro i will give it 2 years to be 20$ a month....
beleive me gaming will turn into a luxury for the rich
@Captain_Chao5 It's inevitable but will likely be the last thing they want to increase from a business perspective. They will likely remove some of the £1 loopholes before then to try and get existing members to actually pay full price.
My bet would be AFTER 2023. They have to show they can get great AAA games out frequently on the service before a price hike.
@GeeEssEff The only extras I've bought for GP games is Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon 4 as they're 1st party titles so are least likely to leave. I wouldn't trust something like a Ubisoft or Rockstar title to stick around. I pity the fools who bought Avengers DLC on Game Pass.
@elpardo1984 Hopefully the "deluxe" edition will be deluxe enough to justify the price tag. With Ubisoft games the "Deluxe" edition is the basic one with an extra gun skin, and different coloured hat.
@PhileasFragg yeah hopefully its consistent with the Forza Deluxe and is an all in price for a named number of DLC packs + all content.
@Gamingforlife and when it raises $2 a month I'm still saving hundreds of dollars a year. Best deal in gaming. Game Pass baby BABY!!!
I don’t care about price increases, if it’s a game I want I can wait for a discount or if I can’t I can prepare for the purchase and play something else.
Case in point, I want to play FF16 don’t have a PS5 but I will by the time it comes out and by that time GoW should be cheaper so should horizon. My back log is filled I don’t need to spend 70 I remember when games were 50 brand new lol
£70 is a lot for a game, forgetting game pass for something like Forza Horizon 5, Halo infinite it would be worth it in my opinion for what the games content is out of the box. But for games like dead space remake it really makes me hesitant to buy them
Day as those sort of games are more of a 1 and done. They should have just left it at £60. This could damage the industry in the long term and stifle creativity even further
@PhileasFragg I was under the impression in Europe taxes were part of the price, and reason for the MSRP to be equivalent to about 85 USD, because in the US we pay taxes on top of the $70.
@GeeEssEff so far, the game pass “promise” is that first party games stay in the service unless there are licensing issues (as is the case with Forza games.)
There been some odd cases that end up going away but those are, as far as I recall, pre-acquisition games were a third party owns the publishing rights.
@NeutronBomb we have always received only the base (as you call it, barebones) version on game pass and been expected to pay for DLC and season pass content. This is not new not news.
@Kaloudz Yeah. No one in my house plays games besides me so ill stick with the single person plan, but i expect it to go up a few bucks at some point. I'm STILL saving tons of money, and I honestly don't see myself ever unsubscribing because i honestly don't care if i own a game or not. I play a game once and rarely come back to it again, just don't have the time except for those classic games. Gimme that cheaper sub all day long, especially now in the $70 dollar gaming world.
@Tharsman I mean a purposely stripped back version. Like ps plus tried to pull with driveclub & Godfall.
The new price hikes, especially on first party Xbox games, just makes Game Pass Ultimate a much more attractive option. Even if GPU does receive a price hike of its own, which I think would go up to £15.99 from £10.99, it would still be amazing value.
@J_Mo_Money 10$-18$ is 8$...not 2$...if gamepass is 14$ im stopping subscribing ...and 80$ games is crazy expenisive i wont buy them or pay the service then...im old anyway im already half way out of gaming ...its as expensive as ever and i got no time and lot of bills and s*** to take care for ...also games new aday are boring first 6h is exciting then its boring as he** after, all AAA developers seem to walk with the wall afraid to take chances or being creative...
if GP go to +14$ im out of playing games maybe i will keep following news as its hobby of mine
@Seioni well i found it funny when poeple says "you dont have to buy it when its out wait for discounts" ...wow thats something i didnt think of...if most of gamers around the world wasnt wating for discount to begin with to purchase their games!!! you know how those will be affected? discounts are counted by percentage ...so you still have to buy them more expensive on discount comparing to old times!!! if you were to buy games brand new for 60$ and 30$ after 2-3 years (not COD tho) now you will get it 80$ new and 40$ after 2-3 years
Just don't buy them at that price. Period. No game is essential.
And if you are a fan of a saga, learn to be patient and buy it when it's cheap enough.
Don't follow the hype culture.
Would love pre-order. But....
I've learned my lesson over years. Always, always, always, wait for reviews and impressions.
@NeutronBomb What do you think plan been all along? You are 110% correct with that question.
@Captain_Chao5 Oh heck yes, that's coming. It's not even worth the price of $15 now. Vast majority are indie games on quality level of side scrolling, lava pit jumping game from Nintendo games in the 80s.
@XBOX045 please re-read the article. Redfall comes as day one launch game. So what you say isnt that correct.
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