Xbox Issues Statement About Lack Of Online Multiplayer In GoldenEye 007

That was a lot of words to basically say "Nintendoes what Xbox Doesn't".

Will definitely be think twice before dropping $1300 on Microsoft consoles next Gen like I did on two Series Xs.

It is getting ridiculous the shaft Xbox users have been getting over and over last gen, and now this gen. Halo, Forza, the dashboard, this, lack of any major first party games, delays all around. It is a circus at this point.

@InterceptorAlpha lol over Goldeneye? That's funny. Guess who doesn't get this game at all? PlayStation

And just like that....lost all interest in buying or playing goldeneye.

I never played this game so I’m not nostalgic for it, but dare bet this is going to disappoint many of the people that were waiting for this release.

Well, I still couldn’t give a rats ass about multiplayer on this. Microsoft’s version will be superior in every other way. Modern control options, achievements, 11:9 screen, 4K resolution. I’ll take all of that any day over half baked multiplayer from an emulator.

When they’ve been talking about Goldeneye all the last year or so, I didn’t think once about MP and still won’t.

I have a Switch but won’t be playing it there.

@Phantasystar77 well, their online is… not great. And I don’t mean because it’s Nintendo, but because it’s just an emulation that makes the game think a player somewhere else is playing locally. It’s still split screen. At least that’s how I understand all Nintendo Online emulation games work at the end of the day. If there is packet loss, not sure if it just freezes all clients or things simply go out of sync.

So MS is bringing the remade version at higher visual clarity and no doubt the smoothest, highest frame rate, keeping the Multi-player 'true' to its original design and what made Goldeneye the Multi-player experience it was...

It was designed for split-screen - not for online and a big part of the experience was being able to use the other players screen to see where they were and they can see you, all sitting around a TV, all against all, but all having fun until 'silly o'clock' in the early hours knowing you have work in the morning but must play 1 more match...

There are MANY online FPS games that were designed for Online play and few offer split screen. If any game should be kept true to its 'orginal' design and not 'add' Online for the sake of it, its Goldeneye.

I can understand why Nintendo are adding online - its on a 'Switch'. Its not exactly the 'most' powerful hardware and even running the N64 version through emulation, it may not be that much 'better' than the N64 in split screen modes - then you also have the fact that the Switch is a 'portable' console with a 'small' screen not conducive to 4 player Split Screen so 'online' makes sense - but its not the 'same' as playing the game split screen.

In my opinion, that makes the Xbox version the 'best' version because its been rebuilt to be playable and much more visually clearer, and little/no upscaling blur, built to run on more modern hardware, keeping its retro aesthetic and keeping true to the original design and 'experience' without the hardware constraints that limited its true potential before (unstable frame rates) and added achievements too.

Rare Replay versions are better than 'emulated' N64 versions running on much weaker hardware whether they add 'online' MP or not. Its not like I can't find much better Online FPS games on Xbox but very few that offer the Split Screen 'Goldeneye' experience...

@Trmn8r What does Sony have to do this?

I'm assuming you didn't read my post at all as I mentioned "over and over" and last gen and current.

Both of these imply there have been other instances, and if you use Xbox you'd know that unless you are blind.

@SinfulDestroyer Xbox Series Xs, plural. Thanks. And again. What does Sony have to do with this? I already have a VR PC that does more than current consoles could ever dream of. Sony can't even get VR right, so yea.

Y'all seem awfully insecure about Sony for some reason.

@Tharsman This is something we've been doing on PC with emulators for ages. At least as far back as Gameboy Color emulators where you can simulate a link cable via IP. Unless Nintendo screws it up, this method actually works amazingly.

We also have been doing this with Bandai's Digimon Vpets. Pretty much Digimon tamagotchis. Except that have metal contacts to attach to other ones to battle them. We have software that emulates this contact and let's us do everything from just straight battle to brining the creatures over into fan man games.

@InterceptorAlpha No, I just like to laugh at people who rage, overreact, and are hyper critical about things.

I’ll be getting it on both. This is a game I’ll actually be able to dominate in online multiplayer. Been a while for that. My buddies and I though are gonna get together a weekend and play the crap outta this on series X.

@Trmn8r Good thing I'm doing neither of those and simply typed out a neutral comment lamenting the sad state Xbox has been in since the 360 days ended.

The only Microsoft console, I might add, to break into the top 10 selling consoles of all time.

And you still didn't respond to my raised questions.

But if you're getting a laugh due to an incorrect assumption on your part, glad to help. ❤️

@Phantasystar77 The article doesn't explain it but Switch is getting the N64 rom and the Switch Online emulator replaces controllers with online players, while Xbox is getting a remaster without online multiplayer.

@InterceptorAlpha Rare NEVER made Goldeneye with an ONLINE MP option. Goldeneye was NOT an Online Multi-player experience and was never designed that way so I don't see why you are whining like a spoilt little brat about this.

I can understand why Switch with its 'weak' hardware - especially when in portable mode and the fact that its running N64 emulation software too, with its tiny screen too, that's not great for split screen gaming (good luck on a Switch Lite) so its more a concession to actually make Goldeneye more useable on Switch because good luck sitting round a tiny screen playing 4 player Goldeneye at maybe 20fps...

Rare made the N64 version and have kept the game the SAME as it was, offering the SAME MP experience the game was designed to have, and made a few modern tweaks (control schemes, achievements, resolutions) and as its rebuilt, built for modern hardware, its likely to be the cleanest, smoothest, best way to get the 'Original' Goldeneye experience that made the game what it was...

No one played Goldeneye 'Online' and you can't count that 'crap' remake thing Activision made for the Wii that basically lost them the James Bond Licence in 2010...

So I really don't know why you are whinging like a baby, Goldeneye was ALWAYS a Split Screen Multiplayer experience and should remain that way!!

@BartoxTharglod It's a remaster according to the James Bond and the Xbox sites.

I am not interested in playing the Switch rom even if it has online multiplayer. Also, online sucks on Switch, it connects several players as if they were browsing a website with awful input lag and desynchronisation. I won't subscribe to Nintendo Online Expansion Pack to play N64 roms, but all the games included in Rare Replay are improved and enjoyable.

@uptownsoul yeah 'who cares about local co-op online is better' now it's suddenly the opposite lol

@BAMozzy You admitting that fans are able to make better content than developers. We've been doing this on PC for years.

That said, the moment you used an ad hominem is the moment you loose all credibility. Thanks. ❤️

@BartoxTharglod At the very least, it has wide-screen ratio, 60fps, 4K and modern controls on Xbox. Switch is the one getting the N64 rom, like every Nintendo Online game. Any emulator plays N64 roms better than Switch and the Switch version is only available via the "Expansion Pack" subscription. I have a Switch but I can't understand people that think that Nintendo Online is any good compared to the remasters and Virtual Console available on Wii U.

Can’t wait to see Digital Foundry compare the Xbox version to the Switch version to let us know how “inferior” it is, lol.

@BartoxTharglod No, you're the one assuming it's a rom dump without any information to back you up other than your own assumptions.

@BartoxTharglod "Rare themselves said it wasn't a port."

They didn't say that, they said that it's not the leaked Xbox 360 remaster.

@InterceptorAlpha that was a mouthful lol

@Phantasystar77 probably that’s a condition that Nintendo put on the table and wouldn’t give in, and Microsoft ending up accepting.

@BAMozzy Well put. This is a game I’m going to play the story and unlock some mods and characters and play split screen when I have friends over.

Game is DOA. Major fail on this one.

Still gonna love this! Never played the campaign as a kid because I only got to play at a friends house. So that will be interesting. Also, the local multiplayer is what made this game fun. Honestly it would feel weird playing with up to three strangers (potentially) in a randomly created match. And even if it was to be friends only, it doesn’t feel right not having your friend next to you to mess with.

Doesn't really bother me when I was only going to play the campaign

@Savage_Joe If that is what you took from that, there's little hope for you. The comment did not even remotely imply that, yes that is what you chose to attempt to make a point with.

I spend $1300 on consoles to play games.

And instead I get a console that has botched what anemic few first parts releases it has had. And games that release on it are better elsewhere.

Can't even do what we've been doing on PC for nearly two decades . Multiplayer on games that released without.

To add to this, these 2 year old, flagship, consoles runs this 25 year old game with less features than the underpowered when released, 5 year old, Switch.

At the end of the day it's just goldeneye....i wouldnt get too beat up about a game that won't be much fun once the nostalgia wears off after a few hours. I can't imagine anyone desperate enough to spend a substantial amount of time with this game online.

If you have never played this game before, don't expect a timeless classic. I loved the game as a kid but playing it nowadays is a bit of a struggle. It really makes you appreciate how far games have come. This is mostly intended as a brief nostalgia trip for us 80's and 90's kids.

@InterceptorAlpha it is a NINTENDO 64 game after all. The fact that we have it all is because Nintendo allowed Xbox to have it.

@Somebody It is nice you feel like you owe some company thanks for something.

I don't. I'm a consumer. I pay for things. Want my money? Give me a reason to buy. They didn't. However they've given mea reason not to.

If I wanted to play it without local multiplayer I'd just hook my N64 out. Or better yet, just emulate it on my PC where I CAN have online multiplayer.

@InterceptorAlpha I'm not thanking Nintendo. Microsoft is thanking nintendo because they were finally able to release a game they have been begging Nintendo to allow them to release since the 360 days. Nintendo still holds rights to this game, Xbox needed their approval to release this.

I don't care how or if you play this game. I emulate this game on PC too and you know what it didn't age well. I personally don't plan on playing this and couldn't care less that I can't play online on Xbox. There are way better multiplayer experiences on Xbox and gamepass.

If you regret purchasing a modern system (or 2 of them for some reason) because a game from 5 generations ago came to a modern subscription service but didn't get a feature that wasn't in the original game, I don't know what to tell you.

@BartoxTharglod I remember I used to play GoldenEye with 2 controllers for one player, and an option that let you control it like that.
You're right, there doesn't seem to be anything new in this version.

I don't understand the people who are alright with this. You're the reason publishers give us these half-assed games. You just take it, so they keep on sellin it.
Is that what you want? You want Microsoft to turn into Nintendo? A company that just does what they want, and never listens to the fans. And Sony doesn't listen to fans either. So MS is the last company listening to fans, and you guys don't even care, and wanna ruin that.
You're like a person in society who sees their country being taken over by communism, and you're just like "oh well, it is what it is".

@Somebody Then what was your whole point in responding? You provided nothing to the conversation.

I also doubt your claim about emulating. I run it at 8K with AA and AS and it looks phenomenal. And online multiplayer is flawless. The 1.2 control scheme with my Steam controller or Elite Series 2 is a amazing experience.

@SplooshDmg
Agreed. I still go back to play DOS games like Warcraft Orcs and Humans and still have an amazing time. I also have old consoles set up so I can still play those as well.

Man, I would have killed for a Quake Remastered treatment for this. That's what it really deserved.

@Fishticon
To be fair, Nintendo can atleast get out a nice flow of consistently good first party games. Meanwhile we got Halo Infinite Disappointment and Forza Horizoffline 4 Months

@InterceptorAlpha lol I doubt your claims about 8k goldeneye looking phenomenal. I doubt my 3080 is holding Goldeneye back lol.

I was simply stating that you should consider that this game took a considerable amount of negotiating. You said "the underpowered 5 year old switch" having online multiplayer like it had something to do with the Xbox specs.

Maybe that was part of the deal they struck with nintendo. Maybe xbox (correctly) decided that adding this feature was not worth it since it is gamepass filler and a freebie for Rare Replay owners.

I look forward to ten years from now when Rare employees explain that they could only get Goldeneye on the condition that they had to basically use the same version (ROM dump) as Nintendo.

I'm still excited to play it, but this is a huge let down and disservice to the game. After 25 years being locked on N64, it deserved a lot of love before launching.

It’s not a problem. Perfect Dark has a much better multiplayer mode and you can play that online on Xbox.

I'm guessing this was in the deal for the rights. I'm sure I'm right in thinking it was Nintendo's IP, so they technically had the cards, however Rare made the game. Hence why it was always a little limbo with any new versions.

All of the fun of this multiplayer was in the fact that it was a split-screen option.

As for the online on Switch, it has nothing to do with the game, it is a function built within its emulator, since the beginning (which allows to play Mario Kart online, for exemple).

BUT one thing that I'm glad for, on Xbox, is that I'll be able to OWN the game, not just RENT it.

It's on gamepass, yeah, but we'll have the option to buy it, too. Hell, those of us who already posess the Rare Collection (my case) will be able to get it for free !

On Nintendo, there is absolutely no other way than NSO+ to play this game. And that, for me, is a BIG difference.

At least the Xbox version can be purchased as a one off rather than being locked behind a subscription.

Nintendo doesn't own the game! The game is owned by Rare/Microsoft, that also allowed Banjo-Kazooie to be included in Nintendo Online. The IP is owned by Danjaq and the film is owned by MGM. Nintendo had the publishing rights until 2017 and was not involved in the development so when Rare was acquired, they only kept the publishing rights until they expired.

Xbox is getting a remaster with the campaign and local multiplayer included. Switch is getting the N64 rom as part of their expanded subscription service that you have to pay yearly. Nintendo Online emulator translates additional controllers to online players but how well does online work on Nintendo? I'm not saying that online wouldn't be a nice bonus on Xbox but overall Xbox is getting the best version. Perfect Dark has better online multiplayer and that's on Xbox only.

Feels like Pure Xbox is pulling a Nintendo Life and writing multiple articles on the same story.

@InterceptorAlpha No matter how "sad" Xbox gets, those sort of comments will always have it beat brother. Chin up

Bah!! Glad to have it back (very glad, in fact) but surely some quality of life updates such as online multiplayer wouldn’t have been asking too much

@Fishticon "You're like a person in society who sees their country being taken over by communism, and you're just like "oh well, it is what it is"."

I laughed out loud 😂 can't believe anyone would say something so dramatic with a straight face, but apparently you did lol

Hell hath no fury like a gamer raging over no online multiplayer.

I wouldn’t want to be that spokesperson right now.

@Phantasystar77 realize they are not the same game, reason Nintendo is getting online seems to be because they are adding it themselves(nintendo) they arent releasing the game as a seperate app it will be part of the N64 emulation lineup....which has you guessed it online play.....you can basically play any of the oldschool games online... even for the NES...so from what i can tell and admittidly its limited but seems the only reason switch is getting online for this game is cause it being added to the N64 lineup and the emulation app does the online handling.

Microsoft is trolling their consumer base. This isn't going to end well. I'll happily be letting my Game Pass lapse and moving elsewhere. Between this Windows 11 and screwing up the XBOX UI, I don't know who they are catering to anymore , but it clearly wasn't me.

Personally I cant see the appeal of this on a modern system unless your really desperate for something. This was amazing in its day, but its been seriously surpassed since. I played it 4k on pc a couple of years ago when I got my 3090 and was setting up my emulators, and I didnt feel any urge to keep playing.

I think the multiplayer in this game is intended to be split screen, with players being able to see what everyone is doing, so online mp is not helpful for this game and I dont think its a big ommission for xbox. I guess its still a weird headline though!

I have access to both versions so it doesn't really matter to me, but I'm still thinking the Xbox version will be superior if it has modernized controls with a right analog stick. The Switch version will be tied to the N64 controls in the emulator.

I'm not sure anyone cares about playing a 25 year old fps campaign. What would be fun is the nostalgia of playing it with your buds from back in the day who you don't get to see often. Big L for MS. Tired of seeing their games on other systems.

@Reptilio technically this isnt their game... Rare did make it but Nintendo Published it, and at the time Rare was part of Ninty...also the online thing is only cause this on the switch is going into the N64 emulator where the emulator handles online play for even NES game.....point is both systems getting same game, games not MS if anything one could argue its more Nintendos... but its neither as someones else holds the license to the game entirely....

@Blessed_Koz I understand it better now vis a vis nintendo's online infrastructure supporting the online play for n64 games (a rare w for their online gaming). Been a ***** year for xbox just frustrated

@BAMozzy i know a few mates i used to play GE with back in the late 90s (a pool of about 10 people). we're all in our 40s now. married, kids etc. Get round a mates gaff for a bong and a go on GE just doesn't happen, hence why we all pinned our hopes on online multiplayer. Incidentally these guys do not have an xbox or GP but were willing to take the plunge once GE came out...sadly that aint happening now. so in my little world its a massive missed opportunity for the developers to not to not add a "more modern" way of playing GE multiplayer.

@Reptilio 100% this

@Reptilio This has been something any Joe Schmo could do on their PC for over a decade now.

Nintendo's emulator is playing catch up to what we've been doing on PC for ages. You can Eben play Gameboy color games online FFS

Apparently Xbox isn't capable of what a toaster of a laptop is.

Why not just say Nintendo said no as part of the deal 🤷🏻‍♂️

@InterceptorAlpha you just sound like a whine…. Just saying

I’m absolutely over the moon this game is finally going to be playable on modern hardware. So excited. I love playing through the campaign

@Somebody I think it’s ages well. I wish modern shooters were more like it. Anyway I hear what the other guy is saying Xbox has been a bit of a letdown in recent years. I haven’t bought many new games I tend to play older games on my Xbox. They seem to have all these studios but not a lot happening it’s strange.

@Bruvas exactly 👍😆

@Reptilio I care deeply

Fan boy nonsense is engulfing this site. It’s getting very boring. You can be a “big” fan of one console (although it’s highly unnecessary) and not defend everything to do with that console like a major share holder. Others are allowed to be disappointed with multiple aspects of your favourite console without you needing to feel like it’s a personal attack.

@pspooky I get what you are saying but the n64 controller and unique controls are what made goldeneye stand out. It certainly won’t have same magic if you strip that away. The trigger and controller were a big part of goldeneyes success

@Bruvas "Who wants a lobby full of Odd Jobs throwing proximity mines everywhere?"

This. Also, some people are suggesting more than four players per match when even four is too many.

@Boucho11 I'm sorry that criticism of a multi trillion dollar company failing over and over to deliver is offensive to your sensibilities.

If you enjoy paying a premium to have less, good for you.

Anyone that values their money will continue to be critical of Microsoft and their failures.

I'm not 100% sure on how the ignore button works. But with any luck you won't have to see my offensive content anymore since you're added to the list. I don't mess with fanboys.

Rare re-releases new version of 90's Nintendo game that had no online multiplayer.

Fans: ZOMG Y NO ONLINE EXCEPT ON NINTENDO'S LOCAL MULTI ONLINE MIRRORING!?!

@InterceptorAlpha I agree man. Just don't see any point in being excited for this without it? Just looks embarrassing for MS

@NEStalgia to add, it has had online on PC for years since we can do it there as well. Hell, I can fire up Pokémon Blue from 1996 and play it online with an emulator.

@Reptilio Honestly, since how terrible the Xbox One was last gen, and all the things said by the bigwigs at Microsoft, I've been expecting to exit the gaming market.

Now with how this gen is going, no decent first party exclusives, what exclusives they released were broken(Forza) or is currently broken(Halo), I'm feeling like the Series X could be Microsoft's "swan song" to console hardware. Ultimately with them leaving the console space, and just selling streaming boxes.

Things like this are why I'm glad I own and maintain multiple platforms including a VR PC. Easy enough to stop using my Series X and play somewhere that actually cares about games.

What's worse is that most of these announcements people are losing their minds over are for games that have been available elsewhere for a year or longer.

People should not be supporting this practice of "release everywhere except Xbox, then release on Xbox years later". It is mind boggling.

@InterceptorAlpha yeah I get that, but emulated multiplayer by basically controller streaming vs native multiplayer is two different things. Even Nintendo's thing is kinda spotty. Slightly weird they didn't add it, but they're not really charging for the game anyway, it's included in the price of replay as a free bonus to it. At least digitally which is the real troubling part.

Still buying on Xbox because of achievements and better performance. Nintendo needs to add achievements already. At least, I'd buy more games over there if they had them.