Xbox One Seemingly Sold 50-60 Million Units Last Generation

I’m not surprised tbh after the worse marketing campaign in gaming history, let’s talk about multimedia and oh yes we have some game . I got the Xbox one, the Xbox one s and the Xbox one x. The one x was huge improvement and was by far the best console around at the time. Quality days.

Well for this generation things have stated a little different, roughly.
21 - PS5
16 - Series consoles
Though I’m not a daft series x owner.
PS5 shortages have probably helped as I think PS5 would be at roughly 30 million, back to the 2:1 ratio of last generation.
Also the gap has started slowly increasing again in favour of the PS5 and will do a least into mid 2023 as Xbox don’t have momentum at the moment strong enough to counter act it.

Nobody really cares.

@Dezzy70 "PS5 shortages have probably helped".

Nope, there are also Series X shortages. I've never seen a Series X on the shelves. I saw a PS5 the other day, just once. Huge box, in between. But well, nobody really cares as @Quaali said, because Microsoft is playing a bigger cross-platform game. Also, I don't believe that story of PS unconditional fans buying a Series S when they can't find a PS5. PS5 won't become PS4, no matter what.

I think 50+ million units is quite decent.

It's above the SNES, N64, and Gamecube, and it's twice as many as the OG Xbox, and I personally consider these to be some of the best consoles ever made.

I think the Series should easily pass the Xbox One in unit sales. But I'm still under the impression they'll release multiple generations of series consoles, and we have the cross platform strategy, so while I don't think any individual series will get more sales than the 360 did, the Xbox Platform will have a lot more active players.

@Banjo-
I’m in the UK like your good self
And all my local Argos and Smyths toys have series s and x sitting on shelves
Go look at there stock checkers online.
I have a series x but I’m not that blind to see the sales are slowing down for series consoles in the UK.
Just last week series consoles in the UK for sales up to July 2022 year to date, got pushed down to third below the PS5 and of course Switch is first.

50-60 million was more then Microsoft deserved this last generation. I felt the launch lineup was pretty solid but after that there was a lot of drought. I will credit Phil with a good rebuild from there, but, that doesn't let them off the hook as far as I am concerned.

The addition of GamePass pretty much saved XB in my books, and then the continuous purchase of studios. I expect in 2023 and beyond for Microsoft first party studios to begin consistently be releasing games through the year and for there to be at least four games each year rating 85+ on Metacritic.

@uptownsoul yet its funny they don't report the numbers every month, just the months when xbox sold the most.

Its obvious hardware still matters a lot to both these companies hence why Microsoft are paying for extra chips before sony and pushing the series S hard.

Microsoft just want their subscription service to take off on other platforms like mobile and TV's but they will want to focus mainly on their consoles to stay in that market

@BBB There are exceptions, of course. PS4 was the default console of last generation, not just for Sony fans but gamers in general. Sony fans will try to get a PS5 but it won't be the default console that PS4 was and that's good for all of us and for the industry.

@Dezzy70 I don't feel like starting a loop, just saying that stock issues affect both consoles, and remember and acknowledge when Series S/X is ahead, not just when they're third.

Got both a series x and the ps5 and it would be a no brainer which I would keep if I had to get rid of 1....

Keeping the series x easy decision ...the updated ps now is decent and it has some good exclusives but also some very overrated ones and also as I expected the dual sense was massively overhyped

@BBB Yep, Sony and Microsoft (and Nintendo) are being a bit slow in regard to new exclusives this generation because of circumstances that have been discussed many times but, in my opinion, Xbox has the brighter future ahead in terms of game library, not to mention the better hardware, better customer service and Game Pass.

@BBB
Have you tried Forza Horizon 5.
If you like that type of racing game it is top AAA and the best AAA on the series x for now.

personally after gamepass came out i thought the xbox one was great

@StylesT yeah the controller feels awful IMO - cheap feeling and creaky. L3 and R3 don’t feel good either.

It gets way more interesting when we look at individual markets. Like, in NA, Xbox one sold 31.58 million units, not that far away from PS4’s 38.17 million, and still more than PS3’s 29.2 million, and that despite the terrible backlash to the horrible launch.

This is why I keep saying: Xbox will very likely dominate NA this gen, given time.

This also means, of course, that the international situation for Xbox One was even more dire than the 2/1 split makes it look, because the split obviously was mostly driven by a total failure to make a dent outside NA.

46.02 million PS4’s in Europe.
12.82 million Xbox one in Europe.

That’s 3.5/1

This also means Xbox has a very weak foundation to build from internationally, honestly, the fact that even some months it oversold ps5 despite that weaker foundation, is impressive.

Still would not be shocked if by the end of the gen, Xbox dominates America by a comfortable margin but sees a 2/1 split in favor of PS5 in Europe.

I’m surprised it wasn’t more. I guessed it would be around 3:1.

Good to see Xbox on better footing with the Series consoles. They do well in the US and UK markets but Europe and the rest of the world are still very much PlayStation-centric.

Won’t the fact that a lot of Microsoft’s stuff ends up on PC also influence this? If people already have a decent PC then they won’t bother with an Xbox but get a PlayStation for exclusives?

Not trolling; the last PS I had was PS2 and I’m still using my Xbox one S daily. I just wonder if PC ended up being the ‘hidden’ competitor in this story on top of the PS4’s market dominance?

I thought it was a widely known quantity that PS4 (at least) doubled XB1 sales.

Obviously, the Xbox One never really had a positive "moment" last generation, certainly not early. It was less powerful, with less games, and cost more, that's a rough way to start. The story was already written by the time Gamepass started making waves, but that groundwork has them in a much better place at the moment.

Of note, I wonder how much of Sony's AAA development cycle will endure if the PS5 install base is stifled for another year or more. Games on PS4 and PC seem like an obvious stopgap for squaring the (ever) increasing development cost of Sony 3rd person MCU games with the jolt of new generation adoption lag.

@Banjo- the default for the easiest reasons, let’s look at Portugal, ps4 was cheaper, more powerful and was available, there wasn’t even a release date for our market regarding Xbox, it was like a year after it was released that they were available here.

@Gamecuber It depends on the user. There are so many things that might influence someone to just go all-microsoft for gaming. For many gamers, PC and console gaming are drastically different experiences and will always pick console over PC for most types of games. I am on that bucket, I would basically only play MMOs and strategy games (Age of Empires) on PC, anything else I'll always prefer a console.

Now combine that with: if you already paying for PC game pass, it's just $5 more a month to get Ultimate and expand that to console. And you might already by a GPU on PC for access to the EA games side of things, or for streaming. This all makes the XBox as a console WAY more appealing.

Plus, most first party games are available with dual entitlement, so you get it for XBox or PC via a Microsoft store purchase, you get access in both platforms (MS needs to start to figure how to make file save syncing between PC and XBox though.)

Personally, I just own my PS5 for exclusives and FFXIV (the one MMO that plays well on console, IMO, still mostly play it on PC.) Most of the time my PS5 is collecting dust, because I don't play every Sony game either, and I never buy them day one (not paying $70 for a game, period.)

@Agnostic I dont have numbers to back this up, but I am pretty sure the top played games on Europe are still CoD, Fortnite and sports games, just swap Madden for FIFA. And from what i recall, XBox was for a long time seen as a shooter/sports/racing console, at least during the 360 gen.

So I don't think its about what genre of games is played in Europe. Branding might have more to do with that, plus local marketing. Europe also used to prefer SEGA over Nintendo.

As for your mention on shaking the perception of it being an "fps console", that will be way harder to shake now they also happen to own Doom, Wolfenstein and Call of Duty.

Series X/S will beat out the 360 this gen..

I said it on push, but...how is this news? We all knew this E3 2013. It's surprising the numbers were even 2:1.

@Agnostic Yet the bro shooters are mostly played on PS, so it's kind of funny...

@Tharsman I don't think Xbox will ever shake the "shooter/racer" console image due to their core franchises being shooters and racers still. Technically WRPGs now outnumber shooters/racers in their 1st part lineup and to anyone "in the know" it'll really be the RPG console, but to anyone not already in the customer base, it'll always look like a shooter racer console. The same way Nintendo will never shake the purple lunchbox family safe kiddie console image despite being the only console still hosting what amounts to soft-porn and fetish games uncensored, including in their first party lineup.

Though PS still gets this weird image if being the Japanese games machine when there's very little on it that's not on XB, Nintendo, or both. Falcom, licensed niche anime games, and a handful of paid exclusives aside, there's little from Japan on there that isn't also somewhere/everywhere else. (Heck, XB even gets Diofield which is the most non-Xbox type game I could ever imagine. Even PXB has basically not covered Diofield at all.) Old 90's/00's stigmas seem to last forever, both positive and negative with these platforms.

@Gamecuber PS exclusives are also going on PC. RIght now it's older games, but let's not kid ourselves, they've bought studios to specialize in nothing but PC ports. I don't think their games will delay to PC very long in the future, and a PC gamer does not need to buy either console.

@Royalblues You're not down for the TLoU: Episode 1 8k Remakester releasing Q4 2029 on PS6 (and PS5?) How about Persona 5 Royal (61fps and Morgana has a new "nya" sound with special hat) remaster releasing early Winter 2031?

You're right though. Forza Horizon 9 with a new Hot Wheels DLC will really steal the show that holiday, I'm sure. I'm hoping it'll be really optimized for Xbox Game Surface Duo Z-X2 U.

@Freakdahouse Even in countries where PS4 and Xbox One were available at launch, PS4 was smaller, cheaper and more powerful than Xbox One. PS4 was apparently better and the more popular choice for FIFA, Call of Duty and Fortnite. PS4 looked like a futuristic building and Xbox One like a VHS player but when you compare both, the build quality of Xbox One is solid and the PS4 is a cheap plastic noisy tower.

But like you said, availability made it also the default console in some countries like Portugal. PS has better distribution and marketing in "the rest of the world". More shelves, deals with shops, etc. That makes even more impressive that, sometimes, Series X/S has surpassed PS5. Xbox is gaining traction and it could be more popular than PS in a few years.

@Banjo- It's funny. At launch PS4 was better in every way (policy, power, and price), but I did feel pretty underwhelmed when I unboxed mine...it felt like the budget slim version even at launch, with that thin, porous, rough, unevenly colored plastic they used on PS2 and 3 slim versions. PS5 may look like a maritime object, and is sized like one, too, but at least it doesn't feel like it's own discount version at launch

@Royalblues Are you a scientist? I'm playing the Wii U port of Ocarina of Time PC (amazing stuff, try it @NEStalgia) and I remembered how fascinating scientists were to me when I was a kid visiting the Lakeside Laboratory. Also, thank you for reminding me that I was right (again) when I told NEStalgia that we'd see Atlus's games on Xbox! 😂

@NEStalgia When I got my PS4, I realised how cheap it looked in spite of the minimalist design, but it wasn't until I got the Xbox One that I realised how cheaply PS4 is built:
· Noisy... windy?
· Unreliable, specifically, the capacitive buttons and the HDMI port.
· Random disc ejection.
· Creaky controller, whose battery died recently.

Jet Black? More like uneven cheap grey!

@Royalblues Pftt, this is no mere entrepreneurship. This is the work of multi-billion dollar publicly traded global corporations! This is the best of what a Harvard MBA can offer!

Racer console: I think XB has had a pretty solid pedigree with racing games and racing-type games. PGR, GRID, a close relationship with EA identifying NFS etc with XB, etc helped that. It's kind of soft-legacy decending from Sega which was previously the racer platform (And remains the racer king in arcades), all helped. But MS really tied it's fortunes to Forza/FH once it got going. Every E3 having an actual car debut on stage for years didn't hurt either. And some of it is just pure stereotyping based on an impression of pushing some successful racing franchises for a while it just becomes accepted as "racer" console. What does PS have to it's name, racing wise, it's identified with? GT and Ridge Racer, sure, but that's about it. Mostly just a cliche and stereotype though.

The Japanese games push on XB is huge. I wasn't interested in Diofield at all, but I tried the demo now that it's out and.....I have some very mixed feelings about it, but I'm really kind of hooked on it, too. IT's different from Fire Emblem. No grid. It's almost like an RTS without base building, just the assault squad. It's pretty different. I may not buy at launch, I'll wait for a deep sale, but I think it went from "I don't even care about this game" to "I'm watching for it on sales." But PXB hasn't covered it at all, that's sad. Soul Hackers 2 and Star Ocean are must-buys though. And Persona 5, 4, and 3. (at least GP must plays.)

FWIW Falcom games are just unoptimized on EVERYTHING. Ys9 runs like molasses on Switch, it's just so bad....and even on a PS5 it stutters in the city...and that's a PS4 game on BC. I love Falcom, but their technology is really awful. I doubt we'll see them on XB, I don't think they can afford to spend the time and money on a platfform that likely won't see reasonable sales for them, unfortunately. IDK why XB doesn't sell JP games that well, but it surely doesn't do great sales-wise for most of them. And Falcom is pretty niche.

@Banjo- LOL yeah...the build was really bare bones. I know they didn't want to take a loss at the time that gen after the "great recession", and they did manage to deliver the more powerful console for the lower price, so something had to give......but it was pretty underwhelming to unbox. It felt like I got a used budget console and I was a launch day preorder lol. The sound of the plastic stress creaking with heat....oof. That uneven cheap gray that felt like recycled milk bottles was really....even on a $400 appliance a bit low grade. And the Pro didn't remedy that, either! PS5 is definitely a superior physical build, for sure.

I have to say now that I've taken one of those launch PS4s and made it a headless streaming server like my XSS, I really like it more. If I can't see or hear it, it feels a lot snapper and high-end

@NEStalgia It's a shame that Pure Xbox don't cover some Japanese games like The Diofield Chronicle coming to Xbox and when they do, it's buried under 100 articles about popular games everybody knows everything about. Project Zero/Fatal Frame comes to mind. You say that maybe it's not worth porting games like Ys IX: Monstrum Nox to Xbox from a business point of view but the game is coming to Windows... They should bring everything they're porting to Windows to Xbox. Look at Octopath Traveller, it's doing well on Game Pass. By the way, I beat the eight stories and it turned out that I loved the game, in spite of not having finished Bravely Default after ten years and my expectations being zero. Octopath Traveller is completely on another level but I know you gave it up.

@Banjo- Yeah, in a lot of ways, PXB's editorial direction kind of falls in line with the stereotypes and biases often leveled at XB. Namely that it's all about GaaS shooter/racers, free points, etc. Diofield is missing. Soul Hackers 2 is coming next week and we've had only one or two articles over months I think, Star Ocean...did we get one article on it? Persona got covered only to stir the console war pot. PHIL is spending a lot of effort and money on showcasing the push to Japanese content....PXB feels at times like it's stuck in 2015 in that regard. We're a week and a half from a "big" (niche Japanese) drop, which is a big deal for XB given Phil's very focused effort on J-devs. The front page is indies, rumors and speculation and tshirts. I get it, PXB isn't profitable while the exclusives aren't here...but.... I'm spending more time on Push partly because Push is spending more time talking about games I'm probably buying on XB because I buy most multiplats on XB. "PS is for Japanese games" is the vibe you get reading these sites, even when XB is getting all the same games....

I agree, I think all Windows games should go to XB, though that probably has more to do with how easy MS is making that. Falcom is special.... they already said they only have dev capacity for PS and will only do PS, but if the publisher wants to port to other platforms that's fine. So Switch happened, but the port is terrible. For Falcom and Switch's dominance in their core market they finally broke down and took Switch internally. But now they're doing 2.5 platforms and only have dev capacity for 1.

IDK how much money they'd really make on XB. It doesn't have a ton of Japan adoption, and much as I hate it, Japanese games haven't been the best sellers here. It's one thing for Squeenix to pump the cash to build a market, but it's another thing for tiny Falcom to do it for a market that doesn't exist yet. I'd be curious how Ys Origins has done.

As much as I don't want to do stereotypes on consoles, Falcom's games are really really long, really really slow burn, very much not-flashy games for a pre-made audience. If I were in charge of Falcom, I probably wouldn't do XB if it took time or money. Though I'd love to see Falcom jump over, that's the last holdout for Japanese games. They probably COULD benefit from a Game Pass arrangement. Right now their games preach to the choir. But they also can't afford to lose money. Phil would have to get the checkbook out (which really could be the best thing ever to happen to Falcom with a cash infusion like that.)

Huh, so you didn't hate the never-ending sponge boss battles, huh? I'm still looking forward to Live-A-Live but I'll buy on sale. That'll have to hit a sale because it's not going to sell amazingly next to XC3. And I'm already deep into XC3, and SH2 is next week...

@NEStalgia SH2, what's that? You know I get lost reading your acronyms and I spend 10x more time trying to figure them out than the time you'd spend writing the whole thing and most of the times I can't figure it out at all. I don't think you mean Silent Hill 2 remake because it's a rumour and not a game releasing next week. Bing says SH2 is a structurally conserved protein domain contained within the Src oncoprotein and in many other intracellular signal-transducing protein 😝.

I wholeheartedly agree, it's a shame that all the efforts that Phil Spencer and company are making to bring Japanese content to Xbox are not reflected on Pure Xbox which should be the tool to encourage these initiatives that benefit the players to begin with. The approach of Pure Xbox makes the big, bigger, but the small things might disappear if they don't get proper attention and if people don't even know that they exist.

EDIT: In regard to Octopath Travel(l)er, the funny thing is that I didn't spend much time levelling up, but I took my time exploring. For instance, finding all the chests and fighting along the way. Most of the time I had the skill that lowers enemy encounters equipped. I didn't use a guide either except for finding the job shrines. I played the game casually but slowly. I retained my main character all the way (it's optional once you beat their ending). The jobs system is simple, you can have all jobs in a team of four. This is one of the few "classic" RPGs that encouraged me and, I would say, taught me, to find effective strategies, so I enjoyed it much more than most classic RPGs.

More here:

https://www.purexbox.com/forums/xbox_one/xbox_games_youve_recently_beat?start=240#reply-251

Here in the US I understand it was much closer. The last official tally (before MS stopped doing numbers) had the X1 only down from PS4 by 2 million or so. (28 to 26 a few years into the gen). It seems like the Series might be leading here in the US. But Xbox will never capture that worldwide attention that PS has developed through the past few generations. Europe and Asia will always see PS dominance, especially now that brand loyalty has more or less been entrenched.

Ultimately, the plus for me is Xbox has momentum and is investing more. Meaning I get more games at a better deal (Gamepass). That I love!

@Banjo- sh2 is soul hackers 2. Which you would have known if pxb had covered it properly

@Royalblues Xbox had a reputation for shooters in great part because of halo and gears (but let’s not forget the 360 also launched with Perfect Dark, another fps) and was during that gen the marketing partner of choice for call of duty, but that gen also was famous for Gotham and Forza. To this day most people dismissing Xbox tend to say “it’s all halo, gears and Forza” all the time.

As for the sports rep, I guess for me is because during the 360 gen (only gen I was social enough to hang with non-gamers) every single jock and sports fan got themselves an Xbox to play their sports games.

I have honestly never tied PS to Japanese games, not as much as Nintendo anyways. All I tie it up with is with Metal Gear and Squaresoft (not Square-Enix) due to their PS1 rainfall of Square games. I guess it was also the Persona machine until this fall.

@Dezzy70 you say the lead is growing but the xbox outsold the ps5 again last month worldwide which would seem to say your wrong been that way since nealy april... and in japan they have outsold the ps5 2-1 some weeks

@Blessed_Koz
I was referring to the UK from sales January to July 2022.
The series console were second to Switch being first. Jan to June 2022.
But now we have had Jan to July 2022
The PS5 has taken second for total UK sales
So far this year 2022.
Worldwide it looks like the USA is making very good series console sales at number one which of course pushes the worldwide figures up in a good way.

@Dezzy70 That's a big thing that gets lost in translation on this mostly UK forum..... the perception there is so different while in the US And Canada, Xbox is almost everywhere and is almost a synonym for "video game" the way Nintendo was in the 80's in the mass casual market. It was still #2 last gen with PS4 clearly in the lead, but the overall brand perception is completely different vs Europe, and largely vs UK. But, Until Switch, the same could be said for Nintendo as well.

@Tharsman The "Halo, Gears, and Forza" mantra is mostly a console warrior claim, based, partially true, on the X1 legacy more than then 360 legacy, but in reality even the 360's shooter/racer legacy was as much a matter of chance and circumstance as it was the exclusives/marketing arrangements (and the fact they intentionally courted the dudebro image.) That gen just happened the be the gen that the PC shooters all came to console in droves and it defined the generation, while the open world racing games and the like (Burnout etc) started to take shape and come into play. It was really the gen "PC genres" landed on console for real. And 360 just happened to be the more popular console that ran PC games better, while PS3 floundered to find its market. Mostly a bit of chance of happening to be the popular console, and the "more powerful" console (not really, but most of the PS3's latent power was never used by anyone because it was impossible, the real-world result was 360 ran most everything better) at the time when those formerly PC-only/focused games became the mainstay and what was formerly "console" games (Japanese games mostly) took a backseat.

I should hate XB for that

@NEStalgia
Xbox is a good brand in the UK, with the Xbox360 very big brand as big as Sony at that time.
It changed with PS4 and Sony smartly nicking the FIFA and COD advertising rights from under Xbox.
So the casual UK crowd ran to PS4 in the UK and of course the PS4 PR in the UK was amazing.
Then those big AAA Sony games just helped it along.
Nintendo hand held consoles always big in the UK and really is why the Switch is big in the UK. Had it been a standard console and not hand held it would not do as well in UK.

@Dezzy70 Yeah UK was the next best market, but I still think the perception is very different there. Especially since even the X1 never went invisible here and was "reasonably" popular (with most of it's sales here.) PS4 was still the top seller here, too, but not as absolute, and a lot of the casual market was still on XB for the sports games. And similarly that means the momentum into XSXS was much stronger here because they already had a strong casual market, just less strong than PS. PS4 won, clearly, no question, but not to the total disappearance of XB like most other places.

@NEStalgia
Series is I would good in the UK and a very good start. Definitely tapering off a bit now in the UK and less momentum, but when your consider you are competing against the two with strong first party exclusives this year 2022 and both already popular and better advertising then what do you expect.

I think it is a good number, but i can not help but wonder had that joker (don m) not have been at the helm, how it would have gone down. A little less one-sided, that’s for sure. I put much of the blame on his horrible vision and disastrous execution. Still had loads of fun with my one and one x, but ended up buying a ps4 pro anyways… when Phil came in and started to undo his mess, that’s when xbox had me back again all-in. When Don came out of the shadows again to blurt out “i wish i could have stayed and gone ahead with my plan”, i went “you’re joking, right brah?” But then i realised that he is absolutely clueless to the fact that he almost single-handedly burried the xbox brand as a whole. Surreal…

@Royalblues That's very nice. I am related to the music industry as some people reading my comments might have guessed.

@NEStalgia Exactly, why isn't Pure Xbox covering all that? Outrageous!

Xbox is super popular here as well! Switch is not as popular as its sales figures seem to claim so I wonder if every Switch owner in the world has three Switches? Not joking, 3DS seemed to be more popular, at least you saw people playing on it. PS is the most popular in some European countries, but especially PS2 and PS4; PS3 and PS5 not so much. PS2 was a total craze like Wii. In regard to Xbox One, I have to say that PS has much better distribution here so that's something that Microsoft could try to fix. Not just games but the console was difficult to find, not even distributed in some countries as someone said yesterday. When I wanted mine after Rare Replay was announced, I had to pre-order the Xbox One Elite bundle, the first Xbox with hybrid HDD/SSD. I bet nobody remembers that 🤣.

@Banjo- To a degree, I said in another thread I think PXB is running on skeleton staff compared to ps and nl still and with the exclusives on delay they're kind of in idle mode. You can see the kind of formulaic autopilot articles etc. Can't blame them I guess given not a lot of Xbox specific news going on in 2022, but come on, when there really are games coming from the majors.... Cover them! 😕

Tough to be fair diofield has coverage on push but no discussion going on. The conversation is on nl.

As a person who owns 3 switches, no comment 😂

Man I don't even remember the hybrid shd model existing at all!

@StylesT but the Series has no exclusives at all and the pads are exactly the same as last gen. Lazy.

Microsoft is doing a great job this gen and oh no censoring here too. Oh well.