Xbox Has Enabled Dolby Vision For Forza Horizon 4 And Horizon 5

I have noticed how much better Dolby Vision is compared to HDR10 (EDIT: in Xbox One and Series X/S games). The halos are much more realistic, for instance. I just want LG to update the C9 so I can also play in 120Hz with Dolby Vision on.

The automatic Dolby Vision on Series X is fantastic, too! I can't detect any flaws.

@BlueOcean
Well that answered my yesterday question on FH5 and Dolby Vision.
Yes I find Dolby vision on far cry 6 very good, not sure if the game has full or it’s faux and forced by the series x, but my LGC1 comes up Dolby Vision and it’s look very good. Also a tiny bit crisper.
They did an update for the LG C1 and CX, but would be surprised if they did the LG C9 fully Dolby vision with 120hz. Though LG do support their TVs with updates better than the other manufacturers.

@BlueOcean The only "issue" I have ever seen with Dolby Vision Auto-HDR is the Xbox 360 logo is a little oversaturated during the boot sequence (the Logo bleeds into the background at the very top).

But, overall, Dolby Vision Auto HDR is fantastic across the board.

I wish I had an LG OLED.

My Vizio MQ7 is pretty good though for a mid-range 4K set - it supports ALLM and VRR (between 40-60Hz), but sadly not 120Hz. I wish the VRR range was a little broader (maybe down to like 20Hz). Color accuracy is fantastic, though and the Contrast ratio is actually really high as well.

@GamingFan4Lyf
For me the LG C1 has become the god of TVs and well deserved.

@Dezzy70 I whole-hearted agree.

When my 2010 Samsung died, I actually had a C1...but then got the news the same day that my daughter got into an expensive private school. So...I had to return the TV and get something more practical in price. But for those 24 hours...it was amazing!

Interesting. Dolby Vision was working during the Insider testing for Forza Horizon 4, I'm glad they brought it back.

I've had it with Horizon 4 for over a month now? Since the system update

I really wish Forza Horizon 3 get the FPS Boost patch, so many people still play it. It's 60fps on PC but not on consoles.

@Dezzy70 What was your question yesterday?

@GamingFan4Lyf I just checked that and you're right, the lighting is not perfect in the 360 boot sequence (not just what you said but also the lighting in the background). Actually, I turn Auto HDR off in most backwards compatible games but automatic Dolby Vision is a big improvement in Xbox One/Series X games compared to HDR10, even if it's automatic.

You can always get an LG OLED next time. This year, they expanded the warranty of some models to five years, which is a great change. Anyway, your TV serves you well and you're happy with it, that's the important thing. Because I have to choose between 120Hz and Dolby Vision until the C9 gets updated, I choose Dolby Vision.

@SplooshDmg @Dezzy70 @GamingFan4Lyf I'm happy that Xbox decided to support Dolby Vision and Atmos. LG has AI Sound and Dolby Atmos. I don't have the surround system (A/V receiver and speakers) set up right now and I have realised that Dolby Atmos is perfect for Xbox. I used to select AI Sound because some people say that it's great for all scenarios but if the source (Xbox) outputs Dolby Atmos signal natively (as it does) and you select Dolby Atmos on the LG, the sound quality and sound placement is perfect just using the TV speakers. Obviously, it's not a real surround setup but it's impressive. I only use headphones if necessary but Windows Sonic is great. I tried the Dolby Atmos for Headphones trial but I'm not sure that it's better than Windows Sonic so I didn't buy a licence.

@SplooshDmg Cool, do you notice differences between Windows Sonic and Dolby Atmos for Headphones when playing Xbox games?

@BlueOcean
I have an LG C9 mate and I’m pretty sure 120hz has been available for a while but you need a USB to transfer the update from the LG website to the tv.
That’s my understanding anyhow. I haven’t done it but it’s on my list at some point.

@Hurblyburbly Hm, yes, C9 supports 120Hz but I mean 120Hz with Dolby Vision enabled. Anyway, if you have a link of that I'll check it! The last firmware is 05.10.25 as far as I know. The thing is that C9 is able to do anything that the CX does but it needs to be updated.

@SplooshDmg Yeah if it's better then it's worth that price, it's the kind of things you can use with lots of games. Is the licence timed-limited? That would be a deal-breaker for me.

@BlueOcean I mean, the only reason I would want an LG OLED is for the amazing contrast ratio and wide viewing angle.

I am not all that concerned with 120Hz. My dad has a TV that does 120Hz at 1080p (he also has a 4 overhead speakers for Atmos/DTS:X). When I first got my Series X, I wanted to see 120Hz for myself, so I took it over to his house and hooked it up.

I'll be honest...I wasn't wowed by it. I tried Ori, Gears 5 multiplayer, and a few other games just to check it out. I mean, I guess it was more responsive compared to 60 Hz, but meh, not worth the premium cost in my opinion.

So if I had the choice between 120Hz or Dolby Vision, I'd take Dolby Vision. Both, of course, is ideal, but I just didn't see the big to-do about 120Hz.

Also, I found Dolby Atmos for Headphones to be more accurate than Windows Sonic - I used Rise of the Tomb Raider as my test as the 3D Audio is incredible in that game. I could better tell when something is overhead with Atmos over Windows Sonic.

The other benefit to having Dolby Atmos for Headphones is that streaming apps and Blu-ray that support Atmos can be enjoyed correctly.

One of these days I will install overhead speakers in my living room so I can get that "true" Atmos/DTS:X experience.

@GamingFan4Lyf @SplooshDmg Then I think I'll get Dolby Atmos for Headphones. Thanks!

@GamingFan4Lyf "The other benefit to having Dolby Atmos for Headphones is that streaming apps and Blu-ray that support Atmos can be enjoyed correctly".

Do you mean with headphones?

@GamingFan4Lyf I agree with you, the quality of the picture is the great deal about LG OLED. Some people talk about the blacks but it's not just the blacks, it's every single colour and the perfect contrast. I find funny when people (not you) say that OLED HDR is worse because it's not as bright as on LCD and QLED (which is the same). Of course is not as bright but is that a problem? I turn the HDR maximum brightness in games all the way up and it's more than enough. Those that use LCD HDR need to adjust the brightness to not lose details in the lower range and, even if they do, some low-level details will be lost on LCD because of the way pixels are lit. So, I don't understand the complaints about OLED except for the burn-in risk. OLED HDR is just better than LED/QLED HDR.

Dolby Vision is better than HDR10. Auto HDR (HDR10 or Dolby Vision) is not great in backwards compatible games but it is in Xbox One/Series X games, so I selected Dolby Vision and 60Hz on Series X and just leave it like that. 120Hz is not my priority either, I just wished the C9 was updated because is able to (C9 has the same bandwidth, actually, a bit more than CX and C1 because they reserve more bandwidth for processing the image).

@BlueOcean "Do you mean with headphones?" Yes, you get all the Atmos features via headphones.

@GamingFan4Lyf
I have an Atmos set up and the rear speakers create another sensation. The sounds from behind your head more than anything bring a new dimension. I hear enemy soldiers coming from behind me etc as I can’t see them it’s like, hear, turn shoot etc. A car, helicopters etc.
It brings a more so much immersion into your gaming world. Also if you searching using a radar system, with sound coming behind you, you it’s behind you when searching.
I turned it off once and thought never turning it off again.

@Dezzy70 Rear channels aren't exclusive to Atmos though. I have had a 7.1 system for a while now. Do you mean overhead/height rear and overhead/height front?

What I really want is 11.2.8, but that's like...a whole other level of insanity! LOL.

@GamingFan4Lyf
Just meant the rear surround channels
Really not even including rear height.
The fact that the sound from the rear surround channels just creates then real sensation of sound from behind you.
Of course add rear and front height of Dolby Atmos and it gets even better.

@Dezzy70 Yep but as @GamingFan4Lyf said that is also supported by 7.1. My A/V receiver has 7.1 support but not Atmos because it's old. Atmos, in theory, puts sounds in a 3D space and the sounds come from the nearest speakers. 7.1 assigns the sounds directly to the respective speakers. I think that Atmos can also convert stereo sound but I'm not sure. LG's AI Sound does but native surround support is always better.

@GamingFan4Lyf Atmos can by many different types of setups. You can even do hybrid models with existing surround setups. In general Atmos did add to the capability and number of speakers and placement.

This is a great article that talks about every aspect of it:
https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/

@Dezzy70 @BlueOcean @iplaygamesnstuff I do feel there is a higher degree of accuracy when using Dolby Atmos (and DTS:X) because rather than an engineer manually choosing channels for which to house the sound, the receiver handles all the calculations based on your current speaker configuration.

I know sound mixing for games is different than mixing a movie as the sound themselves are dynamic for games rather than "baked" for a movie; but regardless, Atmos is still better as the receiver can better blend sound between 2 speakers (over a human being trying to manually do it) to give it the sensation that the sound is moving between the the spaces.

In a nutshell, it compensates for speakers that don't exist giving the impression of full 360 degree sound. It's almost like an AI handling your sound mixing for you.

While the ability to have height speakers is one of the biggest benefits of Dolby Atmos, there are still advantages to using using Dolby Atmos even with 7.1 system - better surround sound in general.

My receiver supports Atmos in a 5.2.2 configuration, but I chose to utilize 7.1, instead as I don't own overhead speakers. Ideally you would want either 7.2.4 or 9.2.4. My dad's is 7.2.4 and it's awesome - there is nothing cooling like having a helicopter on the ground on your fronts, then up to the overhead fronts and then the overhead rear as it flies overhead and then back to rear as the helicopter is "in the distance".

@BlueOcean lg already announce C9 not getting that update they confirmed in a tweet its not on the roadmap, also HDtest announced C9 not getting not to long ago also forbes listed all the tvs they were doing that to and the C9 is not one along with the BX https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2021/10/29/lg-issues-final-list-of-tvs-getting-4k-120hz-dolby-vision-update/?sh=b58f0e761aef

@Blessed_Koz That's... disappointing, and the writer mentions what I wrote above:

"The most notable absentees from this list are the BX OLEDs, which run on a different platform to the other X-series OLEDs, and all of the 9 series OLEDs from 2019, despite these being LG’s only models to carry full 48Gbps-bandwidth HDMI ports".

Bad, LG, bad.

I’m not going to be able to experience Dolby Vision until next year when I get the Philips 9636 but least I’ve got something to look forward to and I can’t wait to go to the 4K TV Details in the settings on my Series X and see everything ticked.

I have an LG Nanocell, 2020 version. Does that support it?

I dunno if anyone has any ideas…….

I have a Dolby vision compatible TV, and the setting is enabled. But when I play FH 5 it still defaults to HDR 10

@norwichred Try setting the refresh rate to 60Hz instead of 120 in your Xbox settings.

@BlueOcean you sir are a genius! Thank you

@norwichred No problem! 😊

@BlueOcean why would that matter mine is set to 120hz and it forza is going into dolby vision still.. im not doubting im seriously asking as to why it would do that. i have a C1 so maybe its a model thing

@Blessed_Koz Because although some models are capable of doing it they haven't been updated for some reason.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2021/10/29/lg-issues-final-list-of-tvs-getting-4k-120hz-dolby-vision-update/?sh=1bbe6f4961ae