Topic: General Xbox Series S Thread

@graysoncharles

@graysoncharles Maybe (in non gaming applications like data science, video production, CAD). Maybe not. 3070 has hardware support for RTX I/O decompression and DirectStorage API support for which it doesn’t really need to load all textures at once.

There are tricks that the Series S can use if the devs implement them - Sampler Feedback is a good example where the RAM (or lack of) can be offset and there is a big difference in CPU. Not just in terms of speed, efficiency etc but also in the fact that the CPU isn't needed to decompress textures either.

As for the 6TF of XB1X vs 4TF of Series S - if the efficiency and latency improvements are such, the 4TF can match the 6TF. If, for example, the old architecture is only able to operate at up to 50% that theoretical maximum - ie capable of doing 3trillion floating point operations and the new is 75% efficient so also does up to 3trillion floating point operations, then its a match. As I said, no GPU actually manages to get 100% efficiency - meaning that it matches up to that theoretical maximum. There are times when the shader is not working during 'every' cycle as its waiting on data or instruction from other areas every 'cycle' and at 1800hz, there is 30cycles per 60fps frame. A fraction of a second delay from getting the instruction from CPU can miss a couple of cycles where its doing nothing.

So whilst the calculation is the same, the theoretical maximums are somewhat an indication, they are only worth comparing the same architecture and genus. Its no point even comparing the same 'generation' of GPU's from different manufacturers because they will have different efficiency and latency which is why nVidia can outperform an AMD GPU with the 'same' theoretical maximum. NO GPU is 100% efficient so NO GPU will do that theoretical maximum. The Series X will NOT do 12.1trillion Floating Point Operations per second, the Series S will NOT do 4trillion, the XB1X will NOT do 6trillion... How many they can do is not known but how well they run games is often a way to show how much closer they get to 100% efficiency. A more efficient and lower latency GPU can outperform a GPU with a higher theoretical maximum because its not idle as much...

All (main) HDR formats supported on Series X/S.

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Now that many youtubers have the Xbox series S, did anyone see what storage space is usable of the 512 gb ssd?

After all the unboxings today for both X and s. I was surprised that Microsoft did not include a months free trial of game pass with the new consoles.

@graysoncharles thanks for the reply. I did not know that it would be available for such a low price.

Watch Dogs Legion will have Raytracing on Series S:

Will MS Flight Simulator work on a Xbox series S ?
I love flying games and my main reason for wanting a Xbox series S/X is so I can play MS Flight Simulator 2020. My nephew said 'no' that I would need a series X or a top of the line PC with the best graphic card in order to play it. I did hear though at some point in the future . MS Flight Simulator will become available for the new S/X consoles.

Will I be able to use my 1TB external drive with the new series S/X ? I seen a video last week that appeared to show that the new consoles will require a special external and not the same kind i use on my Xbox one.

@CRANIAL All old games can be played directly from your old HDD in Series S|X. For next-gen titles you can store it into your old HDD but you have to move it to the internal memory/Seagate expansion SSD to play.

@Ryall I watched this video earlier and have to agree with his comments at the start. There is a surprising lack of videos relating to this console compared to the series X by reviewers on YouTube. As I await my delivery, I would like more in depth hands on videos by tech YouTubers as the majority seem to be bypassing this console.

@BazzaRFC MVG is pretty tech savvy though so if they others don’t do a breakdown he most likely will. He just really hasn’t before as his focus was the mod community. Also he works for Nightdive and was the one helped get the original Shantee ported to the Switch. He’s not DF level but; he’ll be pretty solid.

@mousieone I've just subscribed to his channel. Here is another video showing ray tracing on the S.

Looks like it will get a pretty good iFixit score.

A couple questions.

which is better for gaming on tv? should i use the 4k setting, or switch to 1440. I don't yet have a tv that has a refresh rate of 120 I currently have 60 as probably most of you do.

I seen it split about 50/50. I typically play first person shooter games such as a call of duty and sports games.

@aarondogg33 if your tv supports 4K60 play at that. Unless you have an S but even then dies it upscale to 4K with no impact to frames?

Random question... Thought about it today but it seems like no one is surprised there's no free gamepass ultimate time at all included in the box. I'm good until 2023 buy i would have thought at least a month would be in there. Maybe cuz launch day is for enthusist and they might throw some in there down the road?