I want to see the pc integration continue and see that pc app keep getting improved. I eventually want a big picture type of mode that makes the gaming experience on pc to have a similar UI to xbox consoles.
It's annoying that launching the warcraft games from the xbox app is seemingly worse than launching a steam game in the xbox app. Steam games just launch right into it but "launching" the warcraft games just brings up the game page in the battle.net app then you need to click the launch game button in that app. I wish that would bypass the need to click play in battle.net.
@Millionski similar to GOG Galaxy was my takeaway. If you install a game on steam or epic, it will show up on the installed list of the xbox app and you can launch it there.
@-taco as long as they are play anywhere titles you can play your owned xbox games otherwise they are limited to the console as things currently stand.
Ninja theory might be on the chopping block. I have a feeling heckblade 2 was more expensive and didn't do as well as they hoped. I wouldn't be surprised if they scale back their next effort a bit.... if there is one.
I am playing around with it now. It looks like all my currently installed games from Epic and Steam are available to launch from the Xbox app (GOG games are not showing). I tested the launch for a handful from each platform and it worked fine.
The big takeaway so far is that you need to install the Steam/Epic games from those apps first then you can launch them from xbox. This is pretty disappointing, I hope they eventually make it so I can see all the games I own on those other platforms and Install them to the pc directly from the xbox app. But it is nice to just need to open the one app and see all the installed games (minus GOG) in one place.
I exited the xbox app and reopened and this feature is no longer working lol. Just gamepass games showing as installed. I see why it's insider only. So who knows if I even saw the full extent of this feature when i thought it was working
I dont see the appeal of their service. If you are willing to wait 12-18 months for the 1st party content then you might as well buy the game at sale prices. I wouldn't want to pay a monthly subscription to rent their 1-3 games per year well after they release.
Gamepass is still way more appealing especially if you have access to different devices like pc, handheld pc, meta quest, etc. I am regularly playing off of the same save on 3 or more different devices.
Im not seeing any update available yet (I am in the insider program) but I'm excited to try this. It always felt like there should be an all in one launcher from Microsoft on pc. I will definitely test this on my desktop and rog ally when the update comes through.
I still need to finish the very good gamepass game crypt custodian. I'm also replaying a few older titles. Far Cry 4, dead island riptide, hot wheels unleashed, and resident evil 4 remake.
It weird how much I like playing non vr games with a vr headset. I am way less distracted with the headset on. Just like the ROG Ally, I'm not really interested in an xbox branded version of something I already have though.
I don't think they will "put steam on the console" but they will make it possible to have steam,epic, gog on the console. It will be up to the user to put steam on the console. Much like the steam deck does not come with epic or have it listed in their store. You need to side load that yourself.
It will likely be a windows hybrid with an xbox UI.
Gabe from Steam had a great quote when they released the deck. He was asked if users could install windows on it. He said of course the user can, it's a pc.
Its nice to see Sony exploring multiplat with yet another switch port. It should continue to expand like their pc strategy did. Their minds are clearly open to a future without console exclusives.
I have no faith in Bungie. I plan to stay far away from this game, if it even releases. It will take overwhelmingly positive reviews and numerous friends recommendations to change my mind.
Xbox is essentially becoming a new gaming version of Windows and that is very exciting. Get the traditional tv oriented xbox if you want, get a prebuilt pc, build your own, go with a gaming laptop, handheld, etc. Your xbox library and store will be there wherever. While playstation and Nintendo are locked to a single device and you are limited to what they decide the device can do and will cost.
Xbox is letting Sony and Nintendo fight their little console sales figures war while they are fighting microsofts oldest fight, the operating system war. XboxOS/windows against SteamOS and linux/mac/etc.
Sadly, people will still drool over sales figures of the dedicated devices and wait for sony and Nintendo to grant the ability to purchase a whole new variant like the "pro" version halfway between the next time they let you buy a whole new "next generation" of the device. Xbox will always have a pro version available, upgrade whenever and however you want.
I doubt they are refrencing a switch like device by xbox. Technically the rog ally and steam decks are hybrids since they have hdmi out. Any handheld they or 3rd party make would qualify as a hybrid. I just doubt they are teasing anything from their own hardware that is portable.
I think xbox makes a console that is "hybrid" in the console and pc sense not the portable and stationary sense. This is way more exciting than a handheld.
This is an appealing strategy. My biggest complaint about Nintendo and Playstation is that you are at their mercy for where your library is. They (and xbox) have in the past cut me off from my libraries, they probably will again (psvr2 did this just a few years ago). I have so many digital games that can only be accessed on one single device like the wii or ps3 and no where else. This idea of my Steam, epic, gog, and xbox libraries being side by side on a plethora of devices is very appealing. Especially with how well xbox has implemented the cross saves. Playing the same save on the xbox in the living room, the pc in my office, or a handheld on the go is the type of move that will actually say I want this platform and their devices over the other ones.
I feel like the main series needs a new take way more than the horizon series. The Horizon games are some of the most slam dunk successful racing games ever. All 5 of them have been great.
The mainline needs something to make it more replayable. Acquiring new cars and leveling them up on the same couple of tracks is not fun for more than a few hours. I don't think a story mode is the answer for a hardcore racing Sim but some kind of season/career mode like Nascar or F1 would help.
I plan on getting this when it's deeply discounted. I bet I play it and wonder what all the hate was about. It happened with Gotham knights and Saints Row. At $5 those games were a lot of fun.
"Next gen" is about to be open to interpretation for xbox. I think there will be more devices from 1st and 3rd party. It will be more like pc. Find the device that is right for you and upgrade when you're ready.
This device is not trying to take over any other device in terms of sales. The 4 million of the steam deck is probably out of reach. This is an expansion of the Xbox ecosystem and a proof of concept for portable windows/xbox. They hope this leads to Lenovo, anbernic, Alienware, etc or their users putting portable windows on devices.
Instead of focusing on unit sales they will continue to push the overall xbox users. There will be a wide variety of devices including first and third party. That is what is kind of exciting about the future of xbox, it's not going to be limited to the official box and we will have a ton of options. You can build your own pc with this gaming windows/xbox interface.
I'm just glad they didn't de-list oblivion like most publishers would have. The original is still a great game and at $3 I would easily recommend that version over the remaster.
There were rumors going around that sony is working on a Playstation pc app with cross entitlements. That would mean day 1 pc releases and even availability on a pc based xbox. It sounds like they are planning for a future of more than just their plastic console as well.
It's hard to envision the game doing any better without gamepass. Probably more of a case of too many games and too little time.
If gamers, on average, buy and play around 5 games per year and the industry releases thousands of games per year then a lot of these games are not going to succeed in the way this guy wishes his game was doing.
I wonder how he feels about Epic giving away 50+ games away per year for free, no strings attached. That's a lot of time gamers can spend on games they aren't paying for.
These types of services are great for the consumer and bring more people into gaming by reducing the ever increasing price barrier. They are a net positive for gaming.
That means the vast majority of games will still be targeting series S level devices for 5+ years. The next gen will be interesting for playstation and Xbox. They will probably end up not pushing the specs to the limit and prioritizing making them as close to a reasonable price as possible. There won't be much for reasons to upgrade.
I feel like my vague prediction was pretty accurate. I said they would focus on their smaller titles and third party. I was pretty confident perfect dark, fable, gears e day,etc would not be there.
Overall, the show slightly exceeded my lower expectations. It was a solid B and the best of the weaker than normal summer shows.
I'm still on the fence on buying a switch 2. I am not convinced that it will be worth it. I definitely don't plan to buy 3rd party games there if i get one. I have much better options to play those games that aren't locked to a single device.
Even though I don't plan to buy 3rd party games on a Nintendo device, xbox should absolutely put every single one of their games on the platform.
C it was about as average as it gets. I don't think xbox's show will be a 10 but the bar is pretty low after middle of the road shows from sgf and playstation.
Sony did not make more money on this port than Xbox. It's not even close. Development cost would be the port cost in this case because they already had a completed game to port.
But either way it's not really relevant to the point that xbox is demostrating that multiplatform is unlocking a huge revenue source.
I'm sticking with my low expectations. I don't think it lives up to last years show. They have enough coming to have a pretty good show but I'm expecting the majority to be the smaller games like clockwork, double fine, everwild, etc and 3rd party games.
Last year was probably the best showcase of all time, so naturally expecting a regression.
@Weebleman sony profiting off of their ports doesn't impact anything from xboxs perspective. If it increases their bottom line then who cares? It's no different than giving Steam a cut to access those players.
Spiderman for example, could easily be profitable on an xbox port and ultra profitable on switch. Who cares if xbox and Nintendo get a smaller percentage of the $70 per copy?
ChatGPT is estimating that porting a AAA game to a different console costs 500k-2m. Xbox made out great on forza.
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Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From Xbox In The Second Half Of The Year?
I want to see the pc integration continue and see that pc app keep getting improved. I eventually want a big picture type of mode that makes the gaming experience on pc to have a similar UI to xbox consoles.
Re: Forza Motorsport Studio Said To Be 'Bracing' For Job Cuts At Xbox
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Re: Here's Your First Look At Steam Games On The Xbox PC App
It's annoying that launching the warcraft games from the xbox app is seemingly worse than launching a steam game in the xbox app. Steam games just launch right into it but "launching" the warcraft games just brings up the game page in the battle.net app then you need to click the launch game button in that app. I wish that would bypass the need to click play in battle.net.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Steam Games On The Xbox PC App
@Millionski I don't think this is the end result that this feature will take on the pc app. I imagine a big picture type of mode is coming.
They said the xbox ally UI will be available on the other rog ally models so I'm assuming it will be available for any device to install.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Steam Games On The Xbox PC App
@Millionski similar to GOG Galaxy was my takeaway. If you install a game on steam or epic, it will show up on the installed list of the xbox app and you can launch it there.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Steam Games On The Xbox PC App
@-taco as long as they are play anywhere titles you can play your owned xbox games otherwise they are limited to the console as things currently stand.
Re: Forza Motorsport Studio Said To Be 'Bracing' For Job Cuts At Xbox
Ninja theory might be on the chopping block. I have a feeling heckblade 2 was more expensive and didn't do as well as they hoped. I wouldn't be surprised if they scale back their next effort a bit.... if there is one.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Steam Games On The Xbox PC App
I am playing around with it now. It looks like all my currently installed games from Epic and Steam are available to launch from the Xbox app (GOG games are not showing). I tested the launch for a handful from each platform and it worked fine.
The big takeaway so far is that you need to install the Steam/Epic games from those apps first then you can launch them from xbox. This is pretty disappointing, I hope they eventually make it so I can see all the games I own on those other platforms and Install them to the pc directly from the xbox app. But it is nice to just need to open the one app and see all the installed games (minus GOG) in one place.
I exited the xbox app and reopened and this feature is no longer working lol. Just gamepass games showing as installed. I see why it's insider only. So who knows if I even saw the full extent of this feature when i thought it was working
Re: PS Plus Has 'Surpassed Expectations' Since Becoming More Like Xbox Game Pass
I dont see the appeal of their service. If you are willing to wait 12-18 months for the 1st party content then you might as well buy the game at sale prices. I wouldn't want to pay a monthly subscription to rent their 1-3 games per year well after they release.
Gamepass is still way more appealing especially if you have access to different devices like pc, handheld pc, meta quest, etc. I am regularly playing off of the same save on 3 or more different devices.
Re: Meta Quest 3S 'Xbox Edition' Launches Today For $399, But You'll Need To Be Quick
@Medic_alert there already is a Series S toaster. It puts the xbox symbol on your bread, which actually looks pretty good.
https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-series-s-toaster-where-to-buy-2024
Re: Death Stranding 2 Debuts To Impressive Reviews Ahead Of Hopeful Xbox Release
I'm not a fan of Kojima games or Death Stranding 1. If it comes to pc gamepass again I might give it try. Otherwise I'm probably passing on this one.
Re: Xbox Officially Adds Steam Integration Via New PC App Feature
Im not seeing any update available yet (I am in the insider program) but I'm excited to try this. It always felt like there should be an all in one launcher from Microsoft on pc. I will definitely test this on my desktop and rog ally when the update comes through.
Re: Talking Point: Have This Month's Announcements Made You Excited About Xbox Again?
This is the best xbox has ever been and the future looks even better.
Re: 'Xbox Edition' Meta Quest VR Headset Leaks Ahead Of Rumoured Release Next Week
@PushButtons I'm still annoyed they didn't make psvr2 backwards compatible. That was the sole reason I switched to a different vr platform.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 21-22)
I still need to finish the very good gamepass game crypt custodian. I'm also replaying a few older titles. Far Cry 4, dead island riptide, hot wheels unleashed, and resident evil 4 remake.
Re: Rumour: Xbox-Branded Meta Quest VR Headset To Be Unveiled Next Week
Gamepass on the quest 3 is pretty good.
It weird how much I like playing non vr games with a vr headset. I am way less distracted with the headset on. Just like the ROG Ally, I'm not really interested in an xbox branded version of something I already have though.
Skyrim vr is still my favorite vr experience.
Re: Reaction: Xbox's Next-Gen News Is Exciting, But It Also Leaves More Questions Than Answers
I don't think they will "put steam on the console" but they will make it possible to have steam,epic, gog on the console. It will be up to the user to put steam on the console. Much like the steam deck does not come with epic or have it listed in their store. You need to side load that yourself.
It will likely be a windows hybrid with an xbox UI.
Gabe from Steam had a great quote when they released the deck. He was asked if users could install windows on it. He said of course the user can, it's a pc.
Re: PS5's Stellar Blade Could Move To Switch 2, But What About Xbox?
Its nice to see Sony exploring multiplat with yet another switch port. It should continue to expand like their pc strategy did. Their minds are clearly open to a future without console exclusives.
Re: Bungie Delays Xbox Shooter Marathon After Mixed Feedback To 2025 Alpha
I have no faith in Bungie. I plan to stay far away from this game, if it even releases. It will take overwhelmingly positive reviews and numerous friends recommendations to change my mind.
Re: Xbox Emphasises That Its Next-Gen Devices 'Aren't Locked To A Single Store'
Xbox is essentially becoming a new gaming version of Windows and that is very exciting. Get the traditional tv oriented xbox if you want, get a prebuilt pc, build your own, go with a gaming laptop, handheld, etc. Your xbox library and store will be there wherever. While playstation and Nintendo are locked to a single device and you are limited to what they decide the device can do and will cost.
Xbox is letting Sony and Nintendo fight their little console sales figures war while they are fighting microsofts oldest fight, the operating system war. XboxOS/windows against SteamOS and linux/mac/etc.
Sadly, people will still drool over sales figures of the dedicated devices and wait for sony and Nintendo to grant the ability to purchase a whole new variant like the "pro" version halfway between the next time they let you buy a whole new "next generation" of the device. Xbox will always have a pro version available, upgrade whenever and however you want.
Re: Talking Point: Did Xbox Just Hint At A Hybrid Next-Gen Console?
I doubt they are refrencing a switch like device by xbox. Technically the rog ally and steam decks are hybrids since they have hdmi out. Any handheld they or 3rd party make would qualify as a hybrid. I just doubt they are teasing anything from their own hardware that is portable.
I think xbox makes a console that is "hybrid" in the console and pc sense not the portable and stationary sense. This is way more exciting than a handheld.
Re: Xbox Emphasises That Its Next-Gen Devices 'Aren't Locked To A Single Store'
This is an appealing strategy. My biggest complaint about Nintendo and Playstation is that you are at their mercy for where your library is. They (and xbox) have in the past cut me off from my libraries, they probably will again (psvr2 did this just a few years ago). I have so many digital games that can only be accessed on one single device like the wii or ps3 and no where else. This idea of my Steam, epic, gog, and xbox libraries being side by side on a plethora of devices is very appealing. Especially with how well xbox has implemented the cross saves. Playing the same save on the xbox in the living room, the pc in my office, or a handheld on the go is the type of move that will actually say I want this platform and their devices over the other ones.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Like To See A New Type Of Forza Game In 2026?
I feel like the main series needs a new take way more than the horizon series. The Horizon games are some of the most slam dunk successful racing games ever. All 5 of them have been great.
The mainline needs something to make it more replayable. Acquiring new cars and leveling them up on the same couple of tracks is not fun for more than a few hours. I don't think a story mode is the answer for a hardcore racing Sim but some kind of season/career mode like Nascar or F1 would help.
Re: Hands On: Gears Of War Reloaded Beta - Great Gnasher Gibbings, But Overly Familiar On Xbox
Hopefully the multiplayer grows with the multiplat launch.
Re: According To Sales Estimates, Final Fantasy 16 Had A Rough First Week On Xbox
Probably a mix of both. They waited too long to port to xbox and these games don't have a massive audience on xbox.
It will probably take some substantial effort to get japanese games to become popular with Xbox users.
Re: Hands On: Not Gonna Lie, I'm Enjoying MindsEye On Xbox Right Now
I plan on getting this when it's deeply discounted. I bet I play it and wonder what all the hate was about. It happened with Gotham knights and Saints Row. At $5 those games were a lot of fun.
Re: Opinion: It Feels Like Microsoft Is Planning A Huge Final Year Of Xbox Series X|S In 2026
"Next gen" is about to be open to interpretation for xbox. I think there will be more devices from 1st and 3rd party. It will be more like pc. Find the device that is right for you and upgrade when you're ready.
Re: ROG Xbox Ally Gets Price & Release Date Info In 'Exclusive' Report
This device is not trying to take over any other device in terms of sales. The 4 million of the steam deck is probably out of reach. This is an expansion of the Xbox ecosystem and a proof of concept for portable windows/xbox. They hope this leads to Lenovo, anbernic, Alienware, etc or their users putting portable windows on devices.
Instead of focusing on unit sales they will continue to push the overall xbox users. There will be a wide variety of devices including first and third party. That is what is kind of exciting about the future of xbox, it's not going to be limited to the official box and we will have a ton of options. You can build your own pc with this gaming windows/xbox interface.
Re: Bethesda Seemingly Makes Permanent Price Drops To Morrowind & Oblivion On Xbox
I'm just glad they didn't de-list oblivion like most publishers would have. The original is still a great game and at $3 I would easily recommend that version over the remaster.
Re: Gears Of War: Reloaded Physical Version Confirmed For PS5, Nothing Yet For Xbox
Between xbox owners of gears ultimate getting the upgrade for free and gamepass, I don't think this is going to sell copies on xbox.
The sole purpose of this remaster is to sell the game on pc and playstation.
Re: PSA: Silent Hill 2 Is Still Due For Xbox Once PS5 Exclusivity Window Expires
I cant believe sony is still wasting money on these deals. The benefit really isn't there anymore and it just hurts the game and developer.
Re: PS6 To Provide 'New & Enhanced' Experience As Sony & Microsoft Plan For Next-Gen
There were rumors going around that sony is working on a Playstation pc app with cross entitlements. That would mean day 1 pc releases and even availability on a pc based xbox. It sounds like they are planning for a future of more than just their plastic console as well.
Re: Developer Reveals Surprisingly Critical Feedback After Launching On Xbox Game Pass
It's hard to envision the game doing any better without gamepass. Probably more of a case of too many games and too little time.
If gamers, on average, buy and play around 5 games per year and the industry releases thousands of games per year then a lot of these games are not going to succeed in the way this guy wishes his game was doing.
I wonder how he feels about Epic giving away 50+ games away per year for free, no strings attached. That's a lot of time gamers can spend on games they aren't paying for.
These types of services are great for the consumer and bring more people into gaming by reducing the ever increasing price barrier. They are a net positive for gaming.
Re: Resident Evil Requiem Will Be Playable In First And Third-Person At Launch
Excellent news. I would rather play in 1st person. I wish the 4 remake had an official 1st person mode.
Re: Switch 2 'Closer To Xbox Series S' Than Last-Gen Consoles, Says Ninja Gaiden Dev
That means the vast majority of games will still be targeting series S level devices for 5+ years. The next gen will be interesting for playstation and Xbox. They will probably end up not pushing the specs to the limit and prioritizing making them as close to a reasonable price as possible. There won't be much for reasons to upgrade.
Re: Xbox & Windows Worked 'As One Development Team' To Make The ROG Xbox Ally
Exciting times ahead for xbox owners if the xbox/windows collab continues and makes it to all xbox devices.
Re: MindsEye Launches Later Today, But Dev Warns Xbox Players To Wait For Day One Patch
Clearly the lack of review copies is because the game is coming in hot. They will likely be fixing this one on the fly for months to come.
At least they are being somewhat upfront about it.
Re: Poll: What Were Your Top 5 Reveals At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
1. Grounded 2
2. Clockwork revolution
3. High on life 2
4. The outer worlds 2
5. There are no ghosts at the Grand
6. Keeper
Re: Five Reasons Why I'm Incredibly Excited For The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld
The big question is if/when will the xbox interface be available to all pc handhelds like steamOS?
I would convert my current rog ally to it but not sure yet if I will upgrade to the xbox ally.
Re: No, The ROG Xbox Ally Handheld Doesn't Play Native Console Games
Game informer says you can launch steam games directly from the Xbox game bar.
I always thought microsoft should be the one to try the all in one launcher for pc.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Games Showcase 2025 Was Just OK, But Next Year Should Be Amazing
I feel like my vague prediction was pretty accurate. I said they would focus on their smaller titles and third party. I was pretty confident perfect dark, fable, gears e day,etc would not be there.
Overall, the show slightly exceeded my lower expectations. It was a solid B and the best of the weaker than normal summer shows.
Re: Here's Everything That Was Revealed At The Xbox Games Showcase 2025
My favorites were
1. Grounded 2
2. Clockwork revolution
3. High on life 2
4. Keeper
5. There are no ghosts at the Grand
Re: Grounded 2 Is Coming To Xbox, And Sooner Than You Might Think
This was my favorite reveal of the show. Grounded 1 is one of my favorites of this gen. I love that game so much.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2025?
B...It trailed off a bit in the 2nd half but easily the best show of the week.
Double fine releasing a game on my b-day should be a nice present.
Re: Talking Point: Switch 2 Owners, Should Xbox Embrace Nintendo's New System?
I'm still on the fence on buying a switch 2. I am not convinced that it will be worth it. I definitely don't plan to buy 3rd party games there if i get one. I have much better options to play those games that aren't locked to a single device.
Even though I don't plan to buy 3rd party games on a Nintendo device, xbox should absolutely put every single one of their games on the platform.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 7-8)
Crypt custodian on gamepass. It has been great so far.
Also have a replay of wolfenstein old blood going and playing a bunch of civ 7 and halo infinite.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Summer Game Fest 2025 Showcase?
C it was about as average as it gets. I don't think xbox's show will be a 10 but the bar is pretty low after middle of the road shows from sgf and playstation.
Re: Forza On PS5 Has 'Easily' Made $100 Million For Xbox, Says Analyst
Sony did not make more money on this port than Xbox. It's not even close. Development cost would be the port cost in this case because they already had a completed game to port.
But either way it's not really relevant to the point that xbox is demostrating that multiplatform is unlocking a huge revenue source.
Re: Phil Spencer Teases 'Surprises You Won't Want To Miss' For Sunday's Xbox Showcase
I'm sticking with my low expectations. I don't think it lives up to last years show. They have enough coming to have a pretty good show but I'm expecting the majority to be the smaller games like clockwork, double fine, everwild, etc and 3rd party games.
Last year was probably the best showcase of all time, so naturally expecting a regression.
Re: Forza On PS5 Has 'Easily' Made $100 Million For Xbox, Says Analyst
@Weebleman sony profiting off of their ports doesn't impact anything from xboxs perspective. If it increases their bottom line then who cares? It's no different than giving Steam a cut to access those players.
Spiderman for example, could easily be profitable on an xbox port and ultra profitable on switch. Who cares if xbox and Nintendo get a smaller percentage of the $70 per copy?
ChatGPT is estimating that porting a AAA game to a different console costs 500k-2m. Xbox made out great on forza.