Crimson Desert's Xbox Launch Was Reportedly Almost Delayed By Sony Exclusivity Deal

Thats great! Gives more choice!

Ideal.

Tis a shame Wukong didn't also refuse Sony's offer, but hopefully it was only a short period of exclusivity that they agreed too...

@Fiendish-Beaver Still rolling out that old falsehood eh?
What company pays for exclusivity and doesn't promote it at all? None.
Got anything other than chinese whispers and bloggers to support your statement? Thought not.

It's good crimson desert is coming to all platforms, I like the looks of what we have seen!

Never played the first, but the second has me intrigued with it being single player.

@Titntin "Got anything other than chinese whispers and bloggers to support your statement? Thought not."

What about you, got anything other than your own assumptions to support your statement that Sony didnt moneyhat Wukong? This rumor has been around since the games launch, and final proof has yet to emerge. However, Titntin from the Pure Xbox site might have the official answer with documents to settle this rumor once and for all!

Been waiting for this, can't wait. I think when we got the very first trailer I said something along the lines of "probably the closest thing to dogma 2".

@Titntin not saying its true but I can see the logic of not promoting it. It pushes an useful narrative that even without a deal Xbox struggles with third parties because of weaker hardware, and look at that Sony have even more powerful hardware coming.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner I don't think it's actually linked to their other game, it "just so happens" to have a similar naming convention lol

Sony love beating a dead horse don't they maybe it's their fetish 🤷

Microsoft statements for starters, @Titntin. Also, do you see how quickly you denied the insinuation? 12 minutes. Care to explain why neither the developer nor Sony have even made comment regarding this rumour, let along deny it? They could have denied it within minutes too, if there was nothing to it, but haven't, and that is despite what Microsoft have said in official statements. They have has months and months to respond, but still haven't. Just because something has not been denied or confirmed, it does not make it true or untrue, just unverified. If Microsoft had said nothing at all, then I would be less assured that there was not an agreement in place. but as Microsoft did make a comment, not just once, but doubled down on it, I am minded to believe there was an agreement in place.

Also, there was so much fuss over this game prior to its release, there really was no need to advertise it. Thus far, despite not having had any publicity to speak of it has sold 18 million copies. So why is there any need to advertise it...?

Lastly, Sony have locked down exclusive after exclusive of the same ilk, so why not Wukong too...?

Whats so wrong with Sony getting a 3rd party (timed) exclusive for their console. Its not like they're buying this publisher so that no other company can make exclusivity arrangements with them anymore in the future, now that would be a d*ck mo- oh wait

@Wisegamer @Fiendish-Beaver The developer has spoken though and stated
""We are currently optimizing the Xbox Series X|S version to meet our quality standards, so it won't release simultaneously with the other platforms. We apologize for the delay and aim to minimize the wait for Xbox users. We will announce the release date as soon as it meets our quality standards."

Of course if you wish to believe they are deliberately lying to fit your narrative I can't change your beliefs. But the Devs have no need to lie at all and have stated it quite clearly.
If you still wish to go down down a conspiracy rabbit hole that's on you, but you have zero evidence.

As for a reply to you in 12 minutes, that's simply because I'm on the site due to a slow work day and replied quickly? Or is that some evidence of falsehood in your world?

Back to crimson desert - Its nice to see it looking so solid at this stage. There are clearly things missing - ground shadows for characters for a start, but the environments look solid and well built, and it certainly looks like most of the game systems are in place.
I remember seeing the original trailer and thinking 'it wont look like that once its delivered'. But this is shaping up nicely and will not look miles off what was originally shown.
Definitely a treat for next year then..

@Titntin still doesn't explain why all Xbox branding was absent from marketing before launch when they could have added a disclaimer saying it's coming at a later date. Plus PlayStation China heavily marketed it at launch. China is also a newer market for foreign console manufacturers as the ban was lifted in 2015. Sony has heavily invested in the region & see's Microsoft's purchase of ABK as a threat to that investment as Blizzard games are extremely popular on China. So investing in Wu Kong is a no brainer for Sony.

Scamstation is really the worst thing in the industry, they make very few first party games, all they know how to do is remasters and to compensate, they try to sign gaming contracts. exclusives with third-party games to deprive millions of players of being able to play them. It's really disgusting.

@Titntin "We can't comment on the deals made by our partners with other platform holders, but we remain focused on making Xbox the best platform for gamers, and great games are at the center of that."
https://wccftech.com/microsoft-comments-on-xbox-black-myth-wukong-delays-doesnt-want-to-comment-on-possible-exclusivity-deals-from-rivals/

I'm simply going to copy and paste your answer now:
"Of course if you wish to believe they are deliberately lying to fit your narrative I can't change your beliefs. But the Devs (platform holders) have no need to lie at all and have stated it quite clearly.
If you still wish to go down down a conspiracy rabbit hole that's on you, but you have zero evidence."

It’s a strange situation you got involved in. Basically, you refuted the argument someone else made by mentioning what one side said, simply by stating what the other side said, that is the definition of controversy. Maybe you could show us official documents to support your point, especially since this whole argument began with you refuting rumors because they lacked evidence.

@cragis0001 I cant and wont try to explain anything.

The only official thing stated was the quote I posted from the developer, which I've taken at face value as I've never known a dev to actively lie about their own releases. Normally those who have done a deal simply stay quite and don't try and pretend it's something else as Game Science have done.

Would Sony have invested in such a game? Of course, Stella Blade is not a million miles away and was invested in, but as per most examples of this, it was stated and made clear it had happened, and sony made a lot of use of the game for promotion.
I haven't seen that with Wukong and I do see the developer offering another explanation.
The guy who started the rumour, Paul Tassi from Forbes, is on record as a stating "So insider info is really all we have, and a damaging memory leak may be the culprit. Hopefully it’s fixed soon and Xbox players get a much needed win after a tough year. "

@Wisegamer Not commenting on a unsubstantiated rumour from Forbes, is not the same as stating the Devs are not being truthful is it?

We have one definitive statement from the devs - no other definitive statements at all.
Asking me to provide official documents is mere stupidity at this point - you know there is simply the official statement from the devs. With nothing else officially stated, that's what I believe as I believe in the theory of Occam's Razor.

I refuted a rumour with the only bit of factual information available, which is perfectly valid.

@fatpunkslim Are you new to gaming or something? Seems like a pretty narrow take on the industry. Remakes and remasters is not all they know how to make. Actually they're more known for making critically acclaimed games, literally just weeks ago they released Astro Bot.
Exclusivity deals are made to market your console, its what makes each platform attractive to buy. Xbox does the same, but now they also buy whole publishers, excluding any other company to ever make exclusivity arrangements with those companies ever again

Sorry to derail the topic y’all, just had to reply, now back to crimson desert

Glad Sony was not allowed to money hat another game. Square learnt the hard way that it doesn't make financial sense especially keeping the game off PC.

@LogicStrikesAgain This is such an odd take to me. Sony paying less money for third party exclusives is "good" vs Microsoft taking on literally every cost and responsibility involved with a company on top of paying several times more and not even necessarily making games exclusive is "bad". The idea that it's okay because a different company could make exclusivity deal with the publisher in the future is even more weird to me. I do think it should be reminded the publishers Microsoft bought were late stage companies that saw no more growth and were looking to sell. ABK approached Microsoft; it wasn't a hostile takeover. Zenimax had been trying to sell for a while and nearly did to EA. That said, I think pouring on morality judgments on business decisions like this is messy, but I'll say at the end of the day I hate exclusives. I'll just leave it at, we're consumers. I don't care about how businesses go about achieving XYZ outcome; I care about XYZ outcome, which in this case we're talking about making games exclusives. As I see it Sony still does it far more than Microsoft does. I don't care if it's the industry standard. It's an awful standard and I'd argue one of the main reasons why consoles peaked at an eh 155m sales over a decade ago. I imagine it's a tough sell to get people in gaming when the games themselves were a tossup if they'd be available on your system because of these deals. People nowadays hate streaming content wars and originals and having to switch between providers to keep up with one franchise. And those can all be accessed through the same device (just different apps) unlike console exclusives. It seems to be unpopular opinion among the gamers on online forums (of any kind), but I for one am really glad they're going away.