Xbox Introduces New 'Strike' System For Handling Bans / Suspensions

I remember last year getting a 1 week suspension for my profile picture even though there was nothing wrong with it. I appealed against it and it didn't change that.

Just so you know Purexbox, you're incorrect with what you said in this article, "As of today, players can view how many strikes they've received (everyone is starting from a blank slate though!)".

The enforcement I received last year is still there in my enforcement history so you don't start with a blank state.

Looking forward to seeing how abused this system is.

The fact that "profanity" is grounds for a strike is also laughable. Sounds like one more thing to drive people to move from game chat to using parties. 🤮

@Snake_V5 When it comes to authoritarian measures and the people in charge of them, it's very rare to see much in the way of fairness or justice. It's usually a judge jury and executioner approach, just slapping you with a violation and never bothering to look into it enough to overturn it.

This can become especially problematic when action is taken quickly and unfairly with little consideration for if a violation claim is legitimate. Honestly, this whole approach just feel like they're trying to make you walk around on eggshells for a questionable benefit at best.

what can give you a strike? Abusive behavior/profanity on chat?

The amount of times I receive a nasty message in my chat box from someone losing a game is crazy. If it helps to silence and block those idiots then I'm all for it!

While it's unlikely that I would ever, ever fall into any of the violation camps, the pure arbitrary nature of all of it and the fact that I need a graphic flow chart to even figure out the rules is really enough reason to continue to assume I would never use voice chat in a thousand years.

@Kaloudz The blocking from community and fear of having purchase revoked should never go together. Even if you murder someone they don't just come and steal all your purchased belongings when they send you away for 35-life. Surely, telling you you're a lily livered lime-sucking tea-sipping dandy Brit 8x shouldn't result in worse punishment than murder, right?

I don't play online games, so I don't have to worry about this.

In Halo MCC I've got 24 hour bans because of an accidental grenade ricochet.
With this new more strict banning system I predict a rising popularity in single player games.

@Microbius The problem is that it can be enforced in a ridiculous way. Some games have a trash talking culture, like sports games for example.
A simple "yoooo boy, you got rekt!" can be overreacted to by a pansy gamer and cause someone to no longer be able to play.
If a system like this is abused it has the potential to destroy part of gaming culture.

I had a 4 day ban for putting pos in a message to somebody. who was being overly aggressive in call of duty i appealed and received another 4 day ban. microsoft have ex twitter employees it seems.

I think Nintendo handles it best to be honest. With Switch there is no such thing as party chat and game chat is such an obnoxious process to set up that people don't really use it. On the messages side, there's premade ingame messages (e.g. MK8 Deluxe has stuff like "I'm using tilt controls" in the lobby) but you can't make your own messages or send messages to specific users.

Social features as a whole are extremely basic and that's for the better.

@Kaloudz ive had every xbox and received 2 bans for pos which could mean position lol but i was honest and tried explaining that i was being abused by 2 cod players so badly i reacted. first bans ever in over 22 years . Enforcement is only as good as the people enforcing it. By there logic every call of duty player or basically any online player infact would get banned .guess they never played call of duty to realise it has the worst online toxic players .

All I want is Xbox to go hard on all the glitchers, cheaters, exploiters, and quiters.

Those alone ruin the Xbox experience by leaps and bounds.

@JayJ EXACTLY!!! I've reported people from game chat and for messages sent to me that were incredibly clear and obviously against conduct. And NOTHING happens to them.

But when I reply to person saying, funny how the person complaining the loudest and yelling at the team is the one person ultimately responsible for the team losing. That gets me banned. Yea, ok. Whatever Microsoft.

I guess Larian got banned for sexual content, it all makes sense now.

@Grumblevolcano That's why Splatoon is the only online shooter I play!

Although anyone saying "I use tilt controls" deserves an automatic ban hammer.

@Kaloudz I'll give you the scones are pretty lit....

@Kaloudz You should be a mod here as well.

I'll leave it at that.

Wow, that's extremely lenient. Like, so lenient it might encourage people to act stupidly and "ration" their strikes.

This won’t affect me but I find it pathetic, also who gets to define what ‘hate’ speech is. I know I don’t want some billion $ corporation defining it that’s for sure.

Makes me glad I mainly play single player games.

@cornholio005 What's POS?

@GuyinPA75 Good example there of how e-enforcement is often unfair and ineffective. It's simply way too selective, too much bad behavior goes ignored only for some people to get singled out for no good reason when you take a look at all of the behavior that goes unpunished.

@Snake_V5 pos exactly but seriously it means i have to say this politely piece of poo

@Grumblevolcano I made some great friends from open chat while playing 360. Unfortunately everyone merged to PlayStation 4 and never came back to Xbox.

Not everyone knows someone who has a Xbox so they can have a private chat.

Mute buttons work and are pretty simple. If we’re too lazy to press mute I question how much effort we will have to report people.

@Snake_V5 piece of Sh@t

I grew up in a pretty liberal Christian house and sh%t was part of every other sentence. If that’s getting blocked then I dunno.

@OrfeasDourvas I hope so.

People will just revert to code words and Ned Flanderisms. Which I'm all for. This stuff never works like intended and usually just pisses more people off on mistaken bans having to be repealed just to appease the faux offended people.

@Microbius and I'm talking about sports games where people DO trash talk. It's part of the game. No one's gonna be like "what a delightful interception, I really enjoyed watching you take possession".

Is there a way to Ban/Suspend the hideous homescreen/UI layout?

@Kaloudz I thought that at first (too lenient) but sounds like different offenses come with higher number it strikes. Maybe hate speech can jump you from zero to 4 (maybe) while quitting matches because you loosing or feeding might get you a single strike.

What is hate speech I play with a Canadian and constantly tell him a troop of girl scouts could conquer his country. We talk trash always have since the ghost recon Early days of Xbox live. My friends and I only use party chat for this exact reason. I don't know what hate speech is according to Xbox they probably shouldn't look at my texts about the new dashboard.

wtf cheating give you only 1 strike?!

@Snake_V5 I have had many enforcement actions and for months they haven't shown up on enforcement history so i have blank slate

They need to now introduce a way to revert dashboards come on someone with clout has gotta push for that feature because this new dashboard it's about as miserable as steam big picture mode, old dashboard was comfy and unique to you, now we all have the same lifeless dashboard

>99% of my gaming is single player (I have only just recently started a tiny bit of online multiplayer if there is a specific Microsoft Rewards incentive). Mainly because I suck compared to many others. Guess that makes me safe lol.

There are many kids / teens / immature young adult gamers who are sore losers. Could definitely see such persons filing false reports on someone.

One would think that Microsoft by now would have advanced enough monitoring / AI which can tell what is a legitimate violation, and what is not (given its program of ChatGPT).

Can’t imagine what must be like to lose hundreds / thousands of dollars of games one paid for (my games are all digital purchases). Potentially priceless game progress saves as well.

Strike 9 ... You're out?

Use common sense, but that's not always possible it seems. Some people like to use some sort of banter, but sometimes the line is thin. Looking forward how this will go because sometimes even the ones who give the bans go overboard without some context. It' isn't an easy task tbh ...

@Deityjester I checked mine yesterday and there still there.

@Microbius
Sledging has been part of cricket for quite a while now.

@Kaloudz I don’t think anyone should lose their convent over behavior. Losing access to play online is punishment enough.

If you're upset about this you really need to take a look in the mirror and reconsider how you treat people. I am 100% confidant that I will never receive a strike.

@Kaloudz What i would like is means for a banned account to permanently lose access to online. As if, I own x game, and i get banned from online, it wont be fixed because I sign up with another account and keep the game there.

I think that could be done easily by banning any console that is set as Main/Primary Console of a banned account from jumping online, or any console that currently has a banned account signed-in.

By online I just mean online multiplayer/matchmaking.

I hope this will work on Royal Games when it returns after the deal goes through, the trolls that were on that site was annoying and kept coming back

I really am hating this Enforcement system purely because after just receiving a 2 day so called strike and Enforcement ban on my many years old clean account for no justified reason that prevents me from joining any LFG or any party chat.
All this is down to the discretion of 1 MS Xbox employee that is clueless on abbreviations when in LFG for Diablo 4.
After spending over 5 hours trying to telephone and web chat it is apparent that i have to sit the 2 days temporary ban out because no one can help with a wrongfully implemented system.No case review available,nothing!
From the start of Diablo 4 on xbox it was a godsend to use the MS LFG and i have used this since it became available with all games needed,especially Daiablo 4 as we all know that xp levelling grind is real.So for all you Diablo 4 gamers that use the XBOX MS LFG system then you should all know what abbreviations are used,like S1 NMD T4 etc.

Here is my shock enforcement

Looking for Group (1 strike)
Start: 25/08/2023, 20:43
End: 27/08/2023, 00:43
Expiration: 21/02/2024, 19:43
Reason for action
This account violated the Community Standards and was subjected to enforcement action.
Impact
While the current suspension remains active, this account cannot communicate with others, join multiplayer games, or upload media to the Xbox network.
Details
"S1 Wt4 Nmd 40+ lvl85+"

Now if that any where violated the community standards because of the so called Details then the other thousands of gamers in LFG that post the same abbreviated text should also receive a ban right?

Again my issue is that ,if any so called Xbox Enforcement Employee can dish these Bans/Strikes out willy nilly and not be themselves part of the LFG gaming community and understand what the abbreviations mean.Then they certainly should not be given such a powerful role.
Its impossible to get questions answered as it seems these Enforcement Rules are a rule to their own and can not be contacted especially in my case.
Im paying their wages with my fees yet i cant put right their wrongs to make sure this does not happen again.
Should i have to put up with this behaviour..No
Do i have to put up with this behaviour...It seems i have no choice!