
Head of Xbox Phil Spencer has discussed the upcoming Xbox 360 store closure in an interview with Eurogamer this week, where he admitted he "would love to find solutions" for the titles that are being permanently delisted in 2024.
In the interview, Spencer acknowledged that there's a list of just over 200 games that look set to disappear forever on Xbox, and that's ultimately a big reason why the decision to closure the store has been announced a year in advance.
Here's a bit of what he had to say:
"There's a list of, what 220 games that are not back compat, and I have that list and I've got it stapled on my forehead, and like, how can we make sure [you can play them still?] How many of those are on PC? That's one thing, because it doesn't necessarily mean you need to be able to play it on the existing hardware that you bought 15 years ago, but preservation is front and centre when all these decisions are made."
"I will say for us that preservation that's linked to only one piece of hardware is a challenge. Because there can be hardware love as well - people who love and want this device to do this forever - but mechanical things will break over time. But that's why we gave people with this decision a year. Let's say 'hey, if you want to go buy things in the 360 store, we're going to give you a year headstart, and you can go get those things'. And just know that the list of the 220 games is something that we see, and we would love to find solutions for those games to continue to play."
Spencer also reiterated as part of the discussion that game preservation remains critical to his team, and he believes the work that's been put into the Xbox backwards compatibility program has been "world class".
As for the reason behind the closure, he explained that it's "really just about the hardware and the lifespan of the hardware" - pointing out that sustainability is a challenge and the number of Xbox 360 store users is very small.
Of course, don't forget that although the Xbox 360 store is closing next year, you'll still be able to re-download anything you've bought in the future, and you'll also be able to connect to the internet to play online multiplayer titles.
What are your thoughts on Spencer's comments here? Tell us down below.
[source eurogamer.net]
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There is only one game on the list that anyone gives a fig about and all it needs is a wodge of cash and some assets from Sega.
Wouldn't the solution be to not close the store in the first place? 🤔 You want solutions, Phil, but you caused the problem.
phil would make all 360 games backwards compatible if publishers and licensing arrangements would let him
@BeerIsAwesome right?! He shouldn't be all "oh woe is me, if only there was a solution" in public if the solution was to not cause the problem in the first place.
People are so dramatic. If you want the games THEN BUY THEM, damn. You have a year to buy them and you won't lose access when they are delisted. People act like Microsoft personally goes into their library and deletes the games on that date. You keep them, you can redownload them, etc. Literally anger over nothing. If it's been this long and you didn't buy it, that's on you.
So does that include the backwards compatible games too being delisted from the store?
Sadly it is 220 games now but in the future how many games will be lost to the annals of time? Each generation forward is going to lose a past generation unless something is done… sadly it costs more to preserve games than future sales
@AlwaysPlaying we've lost something like 30 games this year alone that aren't even old platforms, the servers were just shut down. It's a mess 😩
The only game I really want for my Xbox Series S that I can't seem to buy is left 4 dead 2 SMH 😑
An archive or disks would be nice. Moving some games to modern platforms digitally instead even. When Nerrel suggested a Nintendo ROM site as a gag I mean... it makes sense. But yeah a site or emulator or something. I mean BC would be nice for those that aren't enhanced but just available but that's not going to happen.
We don't all have the money to buy them all, interest in all the games and so on. Servers can be repurposed, security of the storefront in general. Game licenses aren't being renewed (licensed or regular games not tied to other licenses too). It's the same as patents (royalites). Namco hasn't renewed their minigame loading screens patent I think since it dropped in 2015. Nemesis system anyone remember that patent.
Some are on other platforms (PC or modern consoles or 360 disks of popular Indies some on modern platforms though, or XBLA starter disks too. Put them in your Xbox One because you can play those if they are available and it syncs correctly) but many aren't even besides Kinect digital only titles. The 2D remakes, licensed tv show/movie/car/rhythm games already went by now. Their DLCs too likely.
Also 360 OG Xbox BC when does it disappear too? It's internet based as well? Goodbye (when it happens also love racing game BC support stays it's great, Grid 2 Xbox One BC of 360 yeah, regardless of the game's quality still nice to have then not) but goodbye PGR1&2 on 360 via BC I played you in 2020 while I still could. Now I have to find an Xbox OG to visit the dealership as a walkable menu..... only in footage then. Besides playing the actual game. But at least Geometry Wars is in PGR3&4 or DS/Wii too. or GW3 on modern platforms too exists....
With delisting (not just licensed games I mean regular games rights and relevance at all), licenses, storefront security, reusing servers and more digital stores get complicated. Whatever Indies/2D remakes and digital only pick up what you can (can't licensed games, rhythm or racing anymore though).
Also 2005-2023 is better than the 10 of Wii U/3DS let alone Sony postponed it and we lost PS3/Vita saves and game transfers so PC only it is then.
We have popular Indies on disk packs (Trials HD, Limbo and Splosion Man anyone?) or the XBLA starter disk (Pacman Championship Edition, Feeding Frenzy, Luxor 2, Boom Boom Rocket, UNO and some demos/videos) I have all of these besides UNO (licensing) on my Xbox One as they are supported 360 games so that's nice.
DLC did come on disks in this era as well as game of the year editions as all DLC then the individual ones. I can use my Borderlands 1 NTSC disk to get a PAL copy (in a PAL region just ended up finding a NTSC copy for some reason in my town and I have a PAL DLC disk but a 360 digital copy so yeah regions make things interesting. The 360 and some other consoles are region free even some OG Xbox games are but at the same time some thing are likely region locked) digitally via BC so that's nice.
Storefronts going is sad but business rights/licenses keep us from enjoying them. Companies can't keep storefronts open as it costs money, they can reuse servers, the code isn't safe anymore and well.... IPs aren't relevant anymore so companies don't want to renew the rights for them so they have to be taken off the store. Not just likeness, music or branding tv shows/movies/cars I mean regular games too. Business is awkward.
Well, microsoft could put them on sale. Reopen the backwards compatibility program to rescue them, make the games free for a time by reopening gwg and putting those games on there 20 at a time or the whole list.
@Master_Cthulhu70 you can pick up a used copy on disc. They are still out there. I picked up a extra copy of 1 & 2 a few months back.
@kiwisoup I think it's more about the games disappearing into nothingness. Downside of digital. And it's not just about us right now it's about future people that won't be able to play games that are digital and delisted. That's why we still need physical.
Losing Vigilante 8 Arcade is one of the saddest casualties of the store closure announcement. Why this was never made BWC I'll never understand. 😭
@BleedingDreamer He literally said on Xbox Series S, do you have a series "S" that has a disc drive? I don't think anyone does.
@Dbzilla1217 I misread what he said.
Please save Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection! I beg you
It’s not quite as simple as just repacking them up for Xbox one. To run on Xbox one the games need recompiling into x86 from the Power PC instruction set. Because of this, I believe (speculation) they are technically no longer following the original licensing agreement and need new ones. Which for certain titles is just not cost effective. Not defending the issue. It’s a problem Microsoft are making. A straight forward emulator wouldn’t work, hence why the discs you put in your Xbox need to download the whole game. Maybe they could release their emulator on PC, which at least has the grunt to brute force this on the fly. Either way. It’s a bit turd.
I wish I'd found this article when it first went up. I'm WAY late, but I had a lot of vitriol towards Xbox and Phil for seeing the 360 off with what was basically a wet fart of a goodbye.
I still think they could've done better-- even put their first-party games on sale, seriously-- but this statement at least is something. Something akin to empty words, probably, but better than just pure silence.
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