Last week, it was revealed that Xbox would be making a big change to the "Achieve More, Earn More" Microsoft Rewards punch card, and now that change has taken place - it's been turned into a new daily Xbox Game Pass Quest.
As expected, this new Quest is for 50 points per-day, and challenges you to complete one achievement from any game in the Xbox Game Pass library. Unlike last time, this will also pop automatically as soon as you've completed it.
Of course, the downside here is that it needs to be an Xbox Game Pass game, so you can't benefit by playing anything else you might own on Xbox. The upside is that it hopefully won't suffer from any tracking issues going forward.
Don't forget that the new weekly Xbox Game Pass Quests also went live yesterday, and we've provided some tips on how to complete them (or at least one of them!) in our 2023 Xbox Game Pass Quests guide.
What do you think of this new Xbox Game Pass Quest? Tell us in the comments below.
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Less convenient as the other one if you were playing a game that wasn't in GP, you'd still earn the points - which is often the case when big new games come out and you're doing the campaign, not really playing anything else.
But at least the points are still there in some form I guess, so when I'm playing Ghostwire Tokyo soon and Starfield later this year I can get the points
Annoying that it's only gamepass games now though
And possibly not X360 GP games either.
Makes sense for a Game Pass Quest to only count Game Pass Games and their achievements and 'encourages' players to play Game Pass games and earn at least 1 achievement per day and 50pts is a decent reward too...
As a Game Pass subscriber, this makes sense. This makes activating the points a lot quicker and easier without distracting you from the game as much as before.
It also allows Microsoft to encourage people to try their vast library of games, whilst also providing better publicity to the many publishers who have decided to utilise the Game Pass model whilst sacrificing direct product sales.
I understand this move is frustrating for non-Game Pass subscribers though, but from a selfish perspective, I hope this move encourages more Publishers to use their service to improve the gamer experience.
Limited now by only applying to Game Pass subscribers and Game Pass games. A shame. At least they didn't nerf the number of points directly too, as they have been doing with other other quests/challenges.
I noticed that yesterday.
All the same to me. It's not like I'll be playing Xbox-adjacent games outside of GP, and playing the PC versions of games on the service still seems to do the trick.
I wish the need to use Achievements for any part of the Rewards system would go away. Track play time and let Achievements be fun again.
There were already thousands of points a month locked behind a GP sub. Anyone who wants to earn these points can just buy the sub with points they earn from other places. 12k pts for 1 month sub can easily be earned without the sub in less than 1 month. There's about 25-26k pts available per month now.
@themightyant They haven't nerfed anything. The only change is they moved the points from the monthly quest to the weekly quests. Same activities, some are slightly longer, same amount of points. More points are available from new offers also. Stop spreading this narrative, it's false.
Hope this stops the 3 weekly achievement ones.
That reward just stupid, annoying, and honestly has me playing LOT LESS Xbox than have in decades.
@AverageJoseph 25k is not available in all territories only a few. In many only around 7.5k is available.
@AverageJoseph Whatever they did it’s now less points for me as well. Remove, redistributed or whatever, it equates to less points for how I used the rewards program.
@themightyant It's always been the case that rewards vary by region. Any region that can access this quest already needed a GP sub to access the thousands of points from the other GP quests.
@FatalBubbles Are you not doing the weekly quests? What specifically changed that's causing you to earn less?
@AverageJoseph The monthly dropped by 500. They added more weekly quests that require lengthier playtime that I don’t do. So all that adds up to less points each week/month.
@FatalBubbles again, that's your choice, not less available points. There were hundreds of points a month from monthly and weekly quests that required playing games before. Were you skipping those too?
The PVZ GW2 quest this week is exactly the same as it was before, get 3 kills in mp. It's on cloud, takes 10 minutes to complete. Choosing not to do that is completely valid, complaining about the rewards program offering fewer points when you're actively choosing not to participate, is not.
I need to check again tonight, but it hasn't appeared for me so far (Hong Kong region). I'm still only seeing the measly 5 points in the Rewards App, the "apology" for removing the 50 points a day for achievements from before 🙄
@Ralizah Not always. I had to play the Xbox version for some challenges to pop. For this achievement-a-day challenge, I think you are good.
@AverageJoseph I think what he is suggesting is that the monthly awards are just for starting ANY game pass game, it takes a couple of seconds each day and it achieved mostly through normal use.
Whereas the weekly quests are for a specific game that may take 15+ minutes to achieve. Take the current Plants vs Zombies one which this Pure Xbox site suggest will take 10-20 mins to complete. For 250 rewards point, around 25p / 25cents that isn't a good return on time.
That's about an hour a month for about £1 / $1. Not worth it imo.
As I said, nerfed.
@themightyant Thanks for the reply. I’ve ever been interested in the games where I’ve got to sit down and play a game I don’t want to.
@AverageJoseph Yes, I always skipped the ones where I’d have to play a game I didn’t want to play. So nothing has changed on that front for me and I’m still earning less. You could word it however you wan, but for me, how I participate with rewards, the points are now less.
@FatalBubbles You were passing up hundreds of points skipping those quests before and you're passing up hundreds of points skipping them now. You get out what you put in, same as ever
@themightyant The monthly quest he was referring to is for completion of quests throughout the month. It was from that monthly quest, which required doing a certain amount of weekly and daily quests, that they moved points into the current weekly quests.
I already mentioned the PVZ quest, it's been done before in the exact same format, get 3 mp kills. It takes 10 mins, same as it did when they offered it last year and the year before. They used to offer 50 pts for the same quests. Cities Skylines used to be "pass 50 days" for 50 pts, recently it was "pass 100 days" for 250 pts.
The same amount of total points are available for completing largely the same activities as have always been on offer. 10 mins a day is what I told my friends when they had never heard of rewards 4 years ago and that is still true. "Not worth it imo" fine, you're entitled to your opinion. Saying it's been nerfed is false. Stop spreading the narrative that rewards has been diminished. It's bs
@AverageJoseph And you are of course entitled to your view but that doesn't mean it is right.
As SEVERAL people have tried to explain to you it now takes longer to complete these tasks than it used to AND it requires playing specific games whereas before it happened through natural play. In that way it has been nerfed. Yet you fail to see that. Stubborn as an old mule.
@themightyant you're wrong. It was never the case that you could collect all the points from game pass quests by "natural play". That's what FatalBubbles was referring to when he said he always skipped the ones he didn't want to play. There were always featured games that required specific objectives to earn points. The points have changed over time, several times, but the objectives are mostly the same and the total points available to earn per month hasn't decreased.
These quests that take time to complete, like the PVZ quest, have been a part of it for years. That one has been on there at least 4-5 times in the exact same format, and the 250 pts it's worth this week is the most it's ever been. Some of them have increased requirements for completion, but the amount of points offered is proportionally more than that increase. Outriders 1 year ago required killing 20 enemies for 75 pts, last week it was 28 enemies for 250 pts. In no way is that a nerf.
@AverageJoseph No one said you could collect them ALL through natural play. But previously you could get far more by just playing normally. Now there's far more focus on trying to get you to play games you may not want to play on the longer weekly quests on specific games. It may be worth more points but it takes a lot more time.
Meanwhile the monthly one for normal play has gone down from 1000 to 500, the play ANY xbox game is now Game Pass subscribers and Game pass game only, the daily play game pass is down from 5 to 3, in addition to several more they have reduced over time.
That is a nerf whether you want to admit it or not. It takes more time and effort to get the same or less result.
You might be happy with the changes - if it works for the way you play great - but many of us are not.
@themightyant If you were choosing not to complete those quests before you were leaving hundreds of points on the table. That hasn't changed. If you were choosing to complete them before, the increase in time is negligible.
It took the exact same amount of time to get 3 kills in PVZ mp as it did 1 year ago. It took 1 min longer to get 28 kills in Outriders than it did to get 20 a year ago. It took 3 mins longer to get 100 days passed in Cities Skylines than it took to get 50 days passed 2 years ago. 4 minutes in 3 weeks... that's like 10 seconds a day.
It's still 10 mins a day on average, to complete all offers, on pc, mobile, and xbox. It's still ~18k pts a month, if you choose to participate. 25k in the US
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