Microsoft's upcoming slate for Xbox is absolutely stacked, with a load of launches expected in 2023 and beyond. We're not exactly sure when a lot of these games will release, as many are knee-deep in development. However, on a recent crossover podcast, VentureBeat journalist Jeff Grubb spoke about what may come from Xbox Game Studios in the coming years.
Next year's lineup could well include Obsidian's Avowed, and the Perfect Dark reboot. If so, that's two massive releases in 2023, and right now, we know very little about either game beyond short reveal trailers.
Grubb said both games are "probably" aiming for 2023, and he goes on to talk about how many of Microsoft's upcoming games will have had up to five years in development by their project release dates.
Of course, Grubb adds the caveat that some of these games could be delayed, and by this summer we'll have a much better idea of Xbox's release schedule. Speaking of delays, Everwild was also discussed, as Rare's upcoming new IP is expected to be at least two years away.
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Avowed or Perfect Dark; which 2023 Xbox game excites you the most? Let us know your thoughts below.
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I’m very curious to learn more about these two games. What they’ll look like and what the gameplay will be. If they come out next year, great! If not till 2024 or later, that’s fine too. I just want to get to see something on them other than a CGI trailer.
Probably, announced games that won't launch in 2022 will be released in 2033. Probably.
Jeff
@Banjo- 100% this. I have no idea why this absolute pie gets the recognition he does.
@AhabSpampurse 100% agree. We know exactly the same as everything he reports so I don't know what's the deal.
These are two games I'm looking forward to seeing more on. I have never played Pillars of Eternity (or whatever the 'franchise' is called) so I'm interested to find out more about Avowed.
Of course I'd rather not 'know' about new games until they are less than a year away from release - otherwise you seem to be waiting forever, more likely to see 'changes' as they 'optimise' and/or make 'creative' adjustments as the 'whole' game starts to take shape, inevitable delays also 'disappoint'. All this can be avoided by keeping reveals to within a 'year' of release - by which time, they'll have more 'finalised' game-play to show off, much closer to the 'final' release and be able to be much more 'confident' that the game will release on the date they give.
Its worked for Forza - which 'normally' was revealed at E3 and release that 'Holiday' season, showing off actual game-play and 'final' visual targets so as not to 'mislead' or miss release dates.
As much as I am 'looking forward' to games like Perfect Dark, Fable etc, I haven't yet added these to my 'wanted' list because they were announced too early (for game consumers - I know they reveal for 'recruitment' purposes too - like getting Crystal Dynamics in because they 'knew' it would be for Perfect Dark and Playground can recruit for Fable too) and with 'CGI' trailers giving me 'nothing' to be too excited for. Of course these have a LOT of potential, but until we get 'game-play', we don't know if they will live up to, or exceed that potential...
Of course, if games like Avowed, Fable, Perfect Dark, Everwild, Outer Worlds 2, State of Decay 3 etc are NOT ready for 2022, then it makes sense that they'll be pushed to 2023...
We still have Deathloop coming to Xbox as well as Redfall, Starfield and probably Forza Motorsport. Still don't know when Hellblade 2 may release as well as numerous other 3rd Party deals/partnerships - like Contraband, Warhammer: Dark Tide etc as well. I don't think STALKER 2 will release now in 2022 (understandably) so I don't really 'look' that far ahead as things 'change'
From my perspective, I am seeing a LOT more 'great' games coming throughout the year - instead of having the 'majority' release from Aug/Sept to Nov/Dec every year and waiting for E3 to get 'news' on the 'next' bunch of great games coming for the next Holiday season.
is it weird that i'm MASSIVELY excited for Avowed? we've seen no gameplay but i have a feeling that it's going to be really good...
@BAMozzy Pillars of Eternity is very very good if you're into CRPGs. it's a franchise i would love to see Microsoft bankroll tho. i think theres a Final Fantasy- sized franchise hiding in there...
@armondo36 I think that both games will be great. Fable too but that one it's going to take longer.
@Banjo- I'd imagine the Xbox rumour mill would be less in the spotlight if Microsoft stopped stockpiling everything that isn't an acquisition for E3 and instead approached game announcements more like Nintendo Directs.
Let's be careful to call Perfect Dark a 'massive release'. Perfect Dark Zero was absolute horsesh*t.
@Bartig While I actually kind of liked it, it was still a massive disappointment. Regardless, this is a completely different developer that Microsoft put together. It's a big release if only to prove that The Initiative is a new AAA-caliber developer, which Microsoft needs regardless of how many companies they buy.
If they can prove that they can build their own quality development companies and not just buy them, that would go a long way in building confidence with people who might not believe that they won't just squander all of this potential like they did after the 360 generation (technically during that as their reliance on a few franchises started later that generation).
So 2023 will finally be the year of next gen? With proper next gen only titles being launched? I do hope so.
Given Microsoft’s tendencies of not releasing anything for the first 9 months of the year, they would be holiday 2023 at the earliest. I dont see Perfect Dark as we have heard nothing but issues with staffing, developing and having to bring in crystal dynamics. That has me skeptical
Considering that the dev built to make the next Perfect Dark was established in 2018 (5 years ago) and has recently partnered with a major 3rd party (most likely to help wrap up developement without a massive need for crunch), and that the game hasn't been announced for 2022, then yea, the smart money is on 2023.
Can someone please pay me for making guesses based on pubicly available information too?
@Bartig Most AAA games are a 'Massive' release regardless and by having the 'talent' involved in its development, its 'expected' to be a 'Premium' AAA game - therefore a 'Massive' release.
Whether it ends up being to your (or anyone's) liking or not is a different matter, its still as 'big' a release as Starfield, God of War, Horizon, Hellblade 2 etc.
Massive is in terms of the Budget that has gone into the development, the Marketing etc. Its not a 'AA' (like Hellblade) or 'Indie' game (like Ori) but one of the 'massive' AAA games being developed by Xbox studio's - regardless of whether you think its 'good' or 'bad'. As 'bad' as games like BF2042, Cyberpunk 2077 etc were on release, they are still 'massive' releases - just like Perfect Dark will be. I of course hope and expect that MS will give the development teams the time and resources to ensure its a 'polished' and complete game at launch, unlike many 'massive' modern releases that obviously needed a LOT more time to be ready to release - but whether you, I or anyone else 'enjoys' the story, game-play etc we will have to see but won't change the fact that this is a 'massive' release for Xbox Studio's...
@armondo36 I'm sure it is a 'decent' RPG, its just that the 'style' and game-play loop didn't appeal to me so I never played this particular RPG.
Avowed looks quite different - for a start, its a full 3D environment - not Isometric and looks like its combat is very different. I don't know if you'll have a 'Party' to control and 'move' around, point and click style, don't have to read pages of text instead of cutscenes etc. Avowed looks as different from PoE as Fallout 3 looked from the original Fallout and 'appeals' much more as a result.
However, I don't know any of the 'lore' or background to PoE which is where the setting of Avowed is based. As such, I don't really know anything about the world, the characters etc so looking forward to finding out more...
@BAMozzy ya avowed is looking to be PoE in elder scrolls style which im optimistic obsidian can do well given their excellent work with FnV, that being said it will probably be buggy at launch and the outer worlds didnt impress, but i guess that was more on the lines of a AA game. im cautiously excited about avowed for the above reasons and because the world and lore theyve built in the PoE universe is truly amazing, im working on PoE 2 now and really enjoying it
@Banjo-
Ya, this is pretty random. To me, Avowed and Perfect Dark looked farther out. From what I can guess I would say Fable, a Gears game collection like Halo MCC, Hellblade 2, a Halo Infinite campaign expansion, Continued Sea of Thieves expansions, and whatever Compulsion Studios is doing are better bets for 2023.
Q) Avowed or Perfect Dark; which 2023 Xbox game excites you the most?
A) Avowed has my interest moreso but I'm keeping an eye out on Perfect Dark info just in case it tickles my interested based off later trailers. Neither one has had gameplay shown off yet so a lot could change regarding my wants and interests in either game.
Gosh, 2022 looks to be rather quiet for Xbox but 2023 sounds like it will be packed to the brim based off all the rumoured game releases for then. Xbox's E3 is certainly an exciting one for this year.
id love to see avowed.
If Perfect Dark releases next year, it'll be horribly rushed. At least that was my impression from the initial reveal. Grubb is an attention seeker.
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