Just days after Xbox's compatibility program lead Peggy Lo said the team had "reached the limit" of its ability to bring new games to the backwards compatible catalog due to various technical and licensing roadblocks, head of Xbox Phil Spencer has now called for the entire games industry to get behind legal emulation strategies.
Speaking to Axios, Spencer noted how important emulation was in order to preserve the history of video games:
“My hope (and I think I have to present it that way as of now) is as an industry we'd work on legal emulation that allowed modern hardware to run any (within reason) older executable allowing someone to play any game.”
“If we said, ‘Hey, anybody should be able to buy any game, or own any game and continue to play,' that seems like a great North Star for us as an industry.”
Axios co-author, Stephen Totilo, also noted how Spencer had some comments about CMOS issues. Until recently, there were concerns amongst PS4 users that when their internal CMOS batteries died and the PlayStation Network was shut down, there would no longer be a way to access the console - even when replacing the battery - because a PS4 must connect to the PS Network at least once before it can be used.
Fortunately, this was reportedly fixed in a recent firmware update for Sony's last-gen console.
Xbox has also conjured up similar concerns in recent times, and here's what Axios & Spencer had to say about it:
"Not in story, but regarding CMOS issues on Xbox hardware: "The hardware team is hearing the message about our consoles should.. allow for the ongoing relationship between the player and the content that they own. So like, we hear the message and the teams are looking at things."
"Unclear the extent to which Spencer envisions a way around the need to do online downloads and checks to keep running games on Xbox down the line. But his sentiment suggests support for long-term access to what you bought."
What are your thoughts about Phil's comments following on from the addition of 76 new backwards compatibility titles earlier this week? Comment down below.
[source axios.com, via twitter.com]
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Can't belive Playstation have done absolutely nothing to support this. They've got some amazing games in the library. Would love to just get a CD of killzone 2, jak & Dexter and run them in the Playstation 5.
A great initiative, but Sony prefers to cough up remasters and Nintendo... Nintendon't.
@Alduin Have you tried a hard reset (aka a full shutdown / restart) of your console and are you connected to the internet? I'm surprised this still isn't working yet.
@Alduin Hmm, I'll let you know if I hear anything about it.
I bought sacred 2 got charged and downloaded but when I try to play it says I don't own it. It does not show in my games owned list but is installed.
I noticed that F.E.A.R. is not available for purchase yet. (At least it wasn't yesterday). F.E.A.R 2 (and 3) however are available for purchase.
@Alduin I'm also in the UK with a Series X and was able to install DOA Ultimate, DOA 3 and 4, Resi Raccoon City and Nier all from disc on Monday night so it's very odd that you're still not able to
@Chaudy
"Nothing" is a bit of a misstatement. They do have those games on PSNow and the PS2 and early PS3s had big success with backwards-compatibility. I think their issue is that they have no good emulation team and now they use AMD hardware. They tried to do some with PS2 but for dumb reason thought they should be remasters but that isn't what people want, lol.
They should create/buy a top tier emulation team and at least offer those PS3 games on PS5 for like $5 or something.
If what Phil said is true then the recent games added to Xbox backwards compatibility wouldn't be for the last time.
@Chaudy I agree, my biggest disappointment of the PS5 is the lack of backwards compatibility.
I'm sure he knows very well that this is much easier said than done. Of course, I agree with him.
@RavenWolfe81 PS Now is definitely not a good solution for game preservation as you have to pay to access the games. You don't have to pay if you want to play e.g. Timesplitters 2 on your Series X/S if you already own a copy of it. Not to mention that you can't buy the games individually and have access to them forever just like on PC. For example, if I buy Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time on PS3, I can't play it on either PS4 or PS5. But if I buy Binary Domain on 360, I can play it on Xbox One, Series X/S and all future Xbox consoles because Microsoft is focusing now on creating a universal system just like on PC where your purchased games can be accessed on all Xbox systems henceforth. Naturally, because BC was an afterthought for them, they couldn't add all previous Xbox games but the point still remains that if you buy one of the BC games today, you can keep playing it on all Xbox systems from here on out. That's not the case with PlayStation (although that might be with PS4 and onwards at least but not PS1-PS3) and definitely not the case with Nintendo as there's no BC at all.
Yet Microsoft announced that Monday's batch of backwards compatibility titles was the last one. Surely the rest of the Sonic games would be on the easier side to relicense for addition to BC?
@Snake_V5 @Grumblevolcano
MS did say it was due to licensing issues. At least they're trying.
Thankfully RetroArch exists and the Series consoles are emulation beasts in dev mode. I just wish MS would bring some of their past BC work forwards. I find it odd that I can play stuff like PGR2 and JSRF on my 360 via BC but not on my newer consoles.
I understand there are licensing issues to consider but they must have found a solution somewhere as they are still playable with BC on older hardware.
I honestly think Microsoft should open source their og Xbox and 360 emulators, make it easier for the community to pick up where BC program ended.
@Chaudy I guess there is a bit of an “advantage” to Sony not doing any work on emulation and it’s that the community has picked up the slack and PS2/3 emulators are very functional, even if power hungry.
Looking forward to the day that maybe it will be optimized enough that we can just run PS3 games on Series X under dev mode.
@Tharsman would love running ps3 games series x.
this is the HUGE advantage that PC gaming offers. any game you own that your machine can handle, there's probably a way to play it. there's no games that a Dell can play that won't run if you have an Alienware. to be honest, putting an end to exclusives would help everyone. sure if a game is made by Microsoft, absolutely give those players a year head start. then release it to everyone else. Put Horizon on Xbox a year after PS5 gets it. developers would make MUCH more money, it would keep prices down, it would still allow Console Warriors to gloat for a while. we all win.
yes i know lol
@Snake_V5 I’m pretty licensing is the biggest issue. I mean Nier Gestalt comes after the remaster? Not to mention a popular thing to do now is take old games and put them on the Switch and sell them for 50+ That put Aspyr on the map.
@Grumblevolcano Sonic had music issues when it comes to licensing.
If the PS5 had support for legacy titles (even just to a similar extent that xbox has) I would have bought one at launch (or atleast tried to).
Bungie says you can take that thought and wish...and STICK IT!
@LtSarge My thing is you if you have to pay to play game again then it is not backwards compatible - - it's honestly just a pay service to nickle and dime consumers.
If you have the disc or digital storefront and you load game up and it plays - - that's backwards compatible.
Love the idea but it is just that for now. I doubt a lot of the industry would get behind it whilst there's still money to be made reselling/repackaging.
@gollumb82 Demons Souls was great. I don't see an issue with remastering classic games but implementing modern gameplay. Sometimes it's the gameplay that makes it difficult to visit old games even when the story was great.
That being said Sony can do a lot more for those games that they don't see themselves remastering. They have PS Now but the MS offering is much better in this space.
I love emulation! It's how I've been able to play Wild Arms Alter Code F, Eternal Darkness and Crisis Core. Three different emulators on one laptop all played with an Xbox Core controller.
Phil is just on another level! It makes so much sense to have emulation in newer consoles...
M$ does deserve a lot of credit for their BWC efforts ever since they did the whole 180 damage control manoeuvre before Xbone came out. Old games really do deserve preservation.
Nintendo used to be the kings of BWC up through the Wii U. The loss of VC on Switch, and being unable to use Wii U discs with Switch really pains me. 😢
Sony? ROFL. Colossal failures with BWC. 😡
Start with Sega. You've got 3 major consoles to emulate.
Microsoft should include various emulators in the Xbox development environment to make it easier for developers to bring their older games to Xbox consoles, then.
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