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FraserG

Hello all!

I thought we'd start a thread based entirely around backwards compatibility! What Xbox 360 and original Xbox games are you playing on your Xbox One right now? Which old games look the best on new hardware? And what recommendations do you have for other pX back-compat fanatics? Let us know here.

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MaccaMUFC

I’m currently playing through the original Splinter Cell on my Xbox One X and gotta say they’ve done a great job updating the graphics and framerate, just like with other OG Xbox games that are X Enhanced. The only thing that bothers me slightly is the huge black bars on either side of the screen but games back then weren’t made for widescreen TVs.

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StrangeBit

Hi! I'm new to the forum! I lurked PureXbox for a while, it's a very cool website! And great forum!

I bought an Xbox one dirty cheap (the All Digital for just 120€!) sometime ago because of BC! I love it, I can play a lot of old games! years ago I had an original xbox but very few games, I'm glad I can now play lots of OG&360 masterpieces!

I'm currently playing Ninja Gaiden Black and Dead Space 1, both awesome games!

I'm planning to build a complete OG&360 BC library

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StrangeBit

Xbox Gamertag: StrangeBit

JaxonH

The one BC game that is absolute gold...

Is Lost Odyssey from Sakaguchi aka “The creator of Final Fantasy”

I tried to get this game running on the 360 emulator for some QoL enhancements but it wouldn’t run. And they don’t sell the game on PC at all. So the only way you can play this game is if you have a 360, or an Xbox One via Backwards Compatibility.

And it’s one of the greatest JRPG’s of all time. I mean, seriously. It’s from the guy who created Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy X. He also made The Last Story (Nintendo Wii) which was equally amazing, and Blue Dragon (360) which is also on X1 BC.

Lost Odyssey was Microsoft’s answer to Final Fantasy, while Blue Dragon was their answer to Dragon Quest. And both from the actual Final Fantasy creator himself. Lost Odyssey (360), Blue Dragon (360) and The Last Story (Wii) were the last games he ever made after Final Fantasy X, once he left Square Enix. Truly one of the greatest video game creators of all time and now he’s making mobile games. Such a waste.

So that’s my recommendation.

That and Final Fantasy XIII trilogy. Keep in mind the trilogy was made well after Sakaguchi left SE, and the games have faced their fair share of criticism, but I still think they are worth playing, and to be honest they look and run better on the X1X via BC than they do on STEAM.

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Xbox Gamertag: ActionJaxonH

StrangeBit

@JaxonH I'm thinking about FFXIII, maybe next time is on sale I will buy it! It seems impressive graphically!

StrangeBit

Xbox Gamertag: StrangeBit

JaxonH

@UnconfirmedBit
Ya. It’s pretty good. But it is a trilogy of games, keep that in mind, and the story gets incredibly convoluted. I have my complaints about FFXIII. Not to say the games aren’t worth playing, but they’re far from the best of the genre. If you know all that already though, ya, by all means. Best place to play them is on an X1X.

But I’d still recommend Lost Odyssey way more than FFXIII trilogy, unless you’re kinda new to JRPGs (If you’re new, I’d recommend the aforementioned Blue Dragon). Not just because it’s a much better game (and ironically was developed by the creator of Final Fantasy while FFXIII wasn’t), but it’s only one game, and it’s cheaper. Hands down one of the greatest games of the 7th generation and even now, one of the best of all time in the genre.

Ive told people before, Xbox One is literally worth buying just to play Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon (both made by the creator of Final Fantasy, and 2 of the only 3 console games he made after leaving Square Enix). Microsoft wanted a Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest of their own, so they hired none other than the creator himself. While Lost Odyssey was their answer to Final Fantasy, Blue Dragon was their answer to Dragon Quest. And man... those two games are so freaking good. Timeless. Nothing Square Enix has made since he left has come close, except perhaps Final Fantasy XII.

All have sinned and fall short of Gods glory. Wages of sin is death. Romans

God so loved the world He sent His only Son- whoever believes on Him has eternal life. Unless you believe, you will die in your sins. Whoever believes, rivers of living water flow within them. John

Xbox Gamertag: ActionJaxonH

StrangeBit

@JaxonH oh yes, I've already bought Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, thank you for the suggestions!
I didn't have the chance to play them because my backlog is too big right now

StrangeBit

Xbox Gamertag: StrangeBit

TimG13

It's by no means perfect, but I always urge people to give Kane And Lynch 2: Dog Days a try. As much as I admired IO's intentions, the first game is undeniably awful, with dreadful shooting and unreliable cover mechanics. But the sequel is a genuine vast improvement. The shooting is tighter and there's a proper cover system that actually works.

Sure, it's utterly miserable, and the leading duo aren't exactly likable (although given all the punishment they endure, you do end up rooting for them a little by the end), but it's also one of the purest and most intense shooters out there. The violence is absolutely relentless - a straight up bullet-fest from start to finish - and the shaky-cam effect, I feel, really adds to the frenetic pace and atmosphere. It surprises me nobody else has copied it.

I concur it's not for everyone, but go in open minded and give it a chance and you may well come away surprised. I do believe it was a Game With Gold a while back, so you may very well already have it, and at only 4 hours long, there's nothing to lose in giving it a try.

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PartyUpLive

I'm playing through Blue Dragon.

I also still play Gears of War games regularly.

PartyUpLive

MAC26

@StrangeBit I too lurked Pure Xbox for awhile! I would usually just Google "Xbox" news to get updated on the latest news coming out of Xbox's camp. Then I stumbled upon Pure Xbox and I have been hooked ever since. Shout out to @FraserG and the whole Pure Xbox gang! How do you like Ninja Gaiden and Dead Space? Both are titles that I have contemplated on getting but I have yet to try out. At the moment I am playing through Destroy All Humans courtesy of Games with Gold! I am enjoying it so far. Every now and then I play a little Fuzion Frenzy. I recently beat Gears 1 and 2 again and I always find time to play some Fight Night Champion. I really wish they would bring that franchise back. I also just started Banjo Kazooie a few days ago. I love Xbox and its backwards compatible library!

MAC26

Xbox Gamertag: YungLaFlame

StrangeBit

@MAC26 oh, I loved Dead Space, it was a superb horror experience! Like an old Alien movie! If you like SciFi horror adventures it's a must buy! Great atmosphere, terrifying monsters, great voice acting and very cool, modern inventory system!

Ninja Gaiden is very cool, very fast (sometimes a little too fast XD) and it graphically is extremely cool, for a 2005 game! Super hard bosses, classic action where you need to learn combo very well!
I don't like its platforming sections, too be honest, but this is also a game camera related problem.

You just reminded me that I still need to buy the Banjo games

StrangeBit

Xbox Gamertag: StrangeBit

gcunit

So what do people think of the chances of the BC list being expanded of for og Xbox and 360 games?

I have to say I find Microsoft's vagueness about expansion disconcerting, like it's just being used to lead us on, then they'll throw a couple of new og Xbox games onto the list and a few more 360 games, just so they can say they delivered something on their vagueness.

But I don't keep up with absolutely everything Xbox-related, so maybe something more concrete has been said that I've missed...?

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MAC26

@gcunit I definitely believe that the backwards compatible games list will be expanded further. Their reason to stop working on BC games was to devote their resources to make sure those same games would run on Series X with no issue. They just wanted to make that transition as smooth as possible. I believe Jason Ronald, who works for Xbox, stated that "we have now shifted our focus to help make the games you love playing on Xbox One compatible with future Xbox hardware. After this week, we have no plans to add additional Original Xbox or Xbox 360 titles to the catalog on Xbox One, but we’re excited to continue our work on Xbox compatibility across platforms and devices, which remains a top priority." There is no way they don't realize how much of a success BC has been for them. I just wish I knew where, if there is a place to do so, the community could go to request new games to be added for the future.

MAC26

Xbox Gamertag: YungLaFlame

ThanosReXXX

@gcunit Phil Spencer himself has also already commented on them picking up where they left off, after they've made sure that the entirety of the current catalog will run as is supposed to, on series X, and S, so yes, I definitely expect more and more titles to be added in the future. That was Spencer's whole plan all along: to create a generation spanning platform, on which basically all Xbox games from the past and the present could be played.

Obviously, some titles will/must be omitted, largely due to licensing issues and so on, and some titles are too niche or have been too unsuccessful for them to even consider porting them, but I do expect the majority of titles to ultimately become available.

Personally, I can't wait for the day that they'll FINALLY announce that Rise of the Argonauts will be added to the catalog...

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Xbox Gamertag: ThanosReXXX

Michael12345

Need to add tenchu z to the backwards compatibility that was i really good game

Michael12345

Justifier

I would love to have The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age from original Xbox.

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Xbox Gamertag: Justifier1651

Banjo-

@NEStalgia and others, what do you think about The Witcher 2 (Xbox 360 version)? Is it clunky, rough? Bad camera or character controls?

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean it's certainly not Witcher 3, but it's not bad. It's an overly ambitious 7th gen game, so clunky controls and camera quirkiness are to be expected. But if you're a Witcher fan it seems worthwhile. (i haven't played through either 2 or 3 but have partly played early parts of both.)

NEStalgia

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