@Tasuki One guy mentioned that he ordered it in the comments section and I asked him to write a mini review if possible and so he did and now it's gone?
@BlueOcean I think that was to me, I got my Kishi since but never wrote a review or impressions on it. Overall I like it, as far as one-liners go. Went for the Xbox branded one almost half hoping the X Logo button would have built on functionality to bring up the Xbox menu on xCloud or console streaming... It does not. Stick with the regular android version that is 20% cheaper if you decide to get it 😅
Overall I like it, almost barely fits the note 20 ultra I ended up buying. It won't fit with a case on, though, I doubt any case would lets fit the Kishi on a phone that size, so be ready for a rubber case that is easy to remove and place back on.
@BlueOcean Ah ok. I know some one had a video to a YouTube channel talking about how they reviewed it in the video but that one seems gone. My guess it was due to the no advertising personal channels rule.
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Right now I am debating on what to get. I was thinking of getting a Note 20 since I am due for a new phone, but my roommate brought up a good idea. He was saying instead of getting a Note 10 get a tablet so that way I can game on that on just get a cheaper phone use to make calls, texts, internet etc. That way you aren't using your phone for gaming and then worry about killing the battery and not having a phone when you need it. Plus with a tablet you would have a bigger screen as well then a phone plus if someone calls you while your in the middle of a game it won't get interrupted on a tablet like it would on a phone or Phablet.
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It's a bit awkward to put. Not crippling by any measure, but it still is a process that makes me use it rarely, so far. I really must be in the mood to play remote play while not on the TV. I still wish it was more like the Razer Junglecat, problem with the Junglecat is it needs a phone-specific case. I have seen some people make 3D printed cases for it, though, and it still is something I might consider throwing more money at in the future.
But talking Kishi, its comfortable, smaller than I expected, but comfortable. Definitively not as comfortable as a native XBox controller, but a top-heavy clip does not make playing on the go viable with one of those.
Minor usage annoyance, is that its hard to touch the right side of the screen while its on. That is where the home/back/menu buttons are on my phone, and although i rather not touch those while playing, sometimes I just have to.
A VERY frustrating issue with xCloud and remote play in general is how accidentally hitting the home button takes you to the home screen of the phone, and that is enough to disconnect you from the streaming services, forcing you to go through the entire process again. That is true on any controller, but the placement of the XBox button being under the DPAd makes it more likely to happen. You see, the Menu button is under the right analog stick, but the Change View button is above the left DPad, when your brain might make you think it would be under it. The Home button is Under it. More than once i have now clicked the XBox Home button instead of the Change View button.
Remapping on android level might work, if that is possible, though.
Ergonomically, I think the controller has a nice grip. Its odd form gives it some unintended gripping point on the back, at least on the right side, that make it easier to get a solid grip on the device. I dont think I would get that kind of grip even on a Nintendo Switch, and I like that. Just wish the left side had a similar thing, but again, this is not an intentional design, just a happy coincidence (I think.)
@Tharsman How does Razer Junglecat adapt to the phone?
The problem with the Razer Kishi is that, according to the specifications linked below, my phone is a tad longer and also the case of my phone is not that easy to remove.
...but I haven't really used it because the Elite controller Series 1 doesn't have Bluetooth and, besides, it seems a bit heavy for this playing style. I will try it when I buy a Series X with the Series X controller.
@BlueOcean The user must have deleted his account if it wasn't advertising that's the only other reason why it would be gone. So either the mods or the user deleted the account and when that happens, every post they make is deleted as well.
@BlueOcean The Junglecat supports very specific phones as it uses a phone-specific case that has sliding hooks for the controllers (very Switch Like.)
Some people have made 3D Printed cases, though. If you feeling adventurous you could always get one and play about making a 3D print case to fit that controller. Even without your own 3d printer, you could use an online service, but it can be some time between receiving each prototype. If you find a 3D print model for your specific phone, that would open up options very quickly.
I am not sure what phone you have but the Kishi ifts my Note 20 Ultra, that is a bit longer than the specs:
Kishi Spec: (145.3 – 163.7 mm x 68.2 - 78.1 mm x 7.0 - 8.8 mm)
Note 20 Ultra (164.8 x 77.2 x 8.1 mm).
This is mostly because the longest dimension is the one with the stretchy band, and as I mentioned, its still a tight fit... very tight. I dont think anything bigger than the Note 20 U would work at all. Hell, some might feel uncomfortable at how tight a fit it is.
The width and thickness dimensions are likely mandatory requirements.
Edit:
If i was playing from my home office, I could see myself just placing the phone on a wireless charging stand and pairing a standard Xbox or PS4 controller via bluetooth. That is an option if you have a flat surface in front of you when you want to play, at that point an Android Tablet might be better than playing on the phone, though.
@redd214 Yeah I was leaning towards Samsung as I have had a Samsung phones forever and love them, I just wasn't sure on tablets. I was actually looking at the S6 the other day.
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@Tasuki Samsung tablets have been great for us, think we've had 6 or 7 by now. Updates are pretty slow on them unfortunately, for example my Tab A 2019 just got Android 10 this morning and my Pixel got Android 11 last week! But in terms of tablets they're definitely the best option out there. Just make sure you take the time to compare them. They have a lot of models so make sure you get all the features you're looking for (S-Pen support, HDMI output, AMOLED screen etc.)
The annoying thing with tablets is that, at least I feel, the ideal size for them and xCloud is the 8 inch format, but almost every tablet made under 10 inches are of terrible quality with horrible screens. Given they can be used for work, many high quality tablets can be found on the 10+ inch screen side, but those are too big to be holding when a controller is attached.
I am hoping that strong success of xCloud translates on manufacturers offering tablets with built-in gamepads.
@Tharsman Thanks. I'm considering settling for Power A Moga Clip. If they release xCloud on Windows I'll get a new laptop (that I will have to do eventually). Surface, perhaps.
@mousieone Yes, never seen the other one but I think they are identical, other than the button painting. Mind you, it still is helpful seeing the correct icons when something prompts on screen, especially given the gotcha I mentioned about accidentally mixing the Change View and Home buttons.
REALLY wish the Home Button was placed above the Dpad, given how in every xbox controller, of these 3 buttons, its always the one placed higher up.
@mousieone Well, I do have a different controller too, an iPega, this thing:
The Home button (on this one, its above and to the left of the DPad) on that device also acts as if i hit the Home button. It could be a default config on Samsung Android devices, though.
BTW, dont recommend this much, its... not very ergonomic. Feels a bit too bloated... might be good for anyone that liked the feel of the original XBox Duke controller, though.
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