@Ryu_Niiyama I haven't plugged in my ancient Nintendo hardware in a long time, but something tells me that other than the iffy toaster slot in the NES that was iffy back in the day, it all still works fine. 80's & early 90's tech was like that. Most of it was solid state and it just works and works and works. The new IC-based stuff fries if you look at it funny. They need to start stamping a "best before" date on them like they do cheese. At least the Surface Pro PSUs are external power bricks. People laughed at 360 and VCR XBone, but those external PSU sounds dreamy right now. But I will go nuts if mine fails, too! Especially since the new ones came out and are ridiculously expensive now. I thought they were gouging but I think what they did is remove the cheap 4GB models so now you have to buy the expensive ones. Thanks, chip shortage!
Yeah, there are a lot of times I wonder why I ended up getting into liking tech things. Nice low tech sounds good after all this replacing of things. I went console instead of sticking with PC precisely because consoles are cheaper by far to replace and cost less than a GPU. Now of course they're impossible to get and cost $1k scalped.....should have stuck with PC. Of course....I've had some.....luck....with mechanical things recently too. Actually it's not just tech, I'm just cursed in general, I think. Murphy has a third law, somewhere, that references me specifically.
@SplooshDmg Seriously That W+ membership is the biggest waste of money I've ever spent I think. It's literally a premium free shipping membership. The "deliver from store" is booked perpetually solid and may as well not exist, but they've started not actually having the shipping option if they can deliver from store. Which means "not free shipping" since you're expected to tip the drivers. $13/mo to pay $5-10 per delivery because they force you to take delivery instead of shipping it, instead of just getting it from Amazon? And they don't actually have delivery slots, it's booked, completely, so then it just says pickup. I just payed $13 to be told to go shop at Walmart half an hour away. And this is why Lord Bezos is our master and ruler. I feel less scalped buying from scalpers than them . And we're talking about laundry detergent, not Xboxes...
@BlueOcean You're certainly right about the lack of positive contribution to debates on his part, at least when the debate is purely about Nintendo (strangely, he's not as one-track if it's not a Nintendo related debate, even if it's real world things.) I could even take the lousy arguments and debate that, but you're right, it's that offended victim tone and twisting of statements and strawmen arguments that make it too frustrating to bother with. The opening salvo was basically "here's how you're going frame my arguments and if you don't do that I don't have the time of day for you." Normally in a debate you can find, if not a middle ground, at least find the point of view each side is coming from. Even in that thread, Bolt and the others did so even if it took a while. But with him, he just dug his heels in that he's right and that's that.
To be fair to Bolt and other's view the OG topic was really on "exclusives" in general, not specifically in-house games. We were talking in-house games, but we did kind of create a sub-discussion there, and given the text walling I could see how some may have been confused by that. Going by general exclusives, which means third party exclusives as well, I don't think the landscape is nearly as bleak, so I agree with them somewhat there. But from there the arguments kind of jumped in an out of different topics at random. Though things would have probably been a lot smoother if jax hadn't barged in in the middle and turned the debate into an argument with battle lines drawn.
After that I was just like "ok, too much drama, I'm not dealing with this, I'm out." Which I feel a little bad about because others addressed me with good points an I feel kind of rude not replying. But he kind of did a hit and run and tainted the discussion then left (or was warned off by mods, either way.)
I really don't think he's so bad in general, though, I think he's just a bit Anti-like when he goes one-track with Nintendo he goes all the way, requiring knowing when to reply and when not to based on the discussion. I think if trying to debate Nintendo with him good things will never ever come of it. It was my mistake for taking the bait and replying, I should have known better. But when it's not a debate about a negative thing about Nintendo (or a game he likes) I've never had any trouble with him, and he's generally a positive contributor otherwise. I could be giving too much benefit of the doubt, but he's been helpful and harmful in different conversations enough to get a general handle on what's what and what's fair discussion and what's certain disaster. As long as you let him have his rainbows, lollipops, and unicorns where Nintendo is concerned, he's friendly and helpful.
FH5 is kind of my wind-down game of late. Sounds crazy because racing and dance pop music is high adrenaline, but somehow it's a good wind down at the end of the day. The Forzagrass and Forzatrees has more to do with how Series S handles it though. No real complaints with how X does it. Obviously the draw distance and detail is insane at 30fps, but it seems almost like stop motion animation this time after you do 60fps. It felt ok in the intro where you're locked at 30, but after I changed it to 60 and tried going back it feels so darned choppy in 30fps. Scenery looks good still on X though at 60. On S....it's....passable. Not terrible, but it makes it feel more like an X1 game than something next gen. Stippling on the foliage sprites and nearby popin become things. It's not bad, it's very playable, but it's not tremendous looking at 60fps on the S.
@SplooshDmg LOL, GoT is fantastic with it's fps boost Next Generation Remaster + Horse clomping vibration! I loved the interview with SP, I think it was PS's interview and they asked what the upgrade offered for $10 and they're like "uhh.....Dual Sense support. And Japanese lipsyncing." TBH I bought the upgrade because I was buying the DLC and it's like "well, $10 now or never..." I think it actually does offer finer filtering of textures. Some things on the not-actual-upgrade had that plastic-smooth sheen to them and the actual paid upgrade seems like it's rendering a lot of textures higher res. So they may have actually undersold what it does. But they still haven't actually said so, so it's weird. That game is really all I want graphically from "next gen" though. I'd totally buy the Jim Ryan Edition console. I want it to have his image in sort of an embossed silver on the side of the panel. Instead of the usual startup sound it can play a random sound byte from his monotone interviews. The sheer cringe makes it a must have!
There's already a Switch Pro. It's called Series S, and it's $50 cheaper. It doesn't undock but everyone that wanted Switch Pro really wanted Switch TV anyway. It comes in white. It plays Ori and The Outer Worlds and Skyrim so much better.........
LOL I've been saying that exact same thing about OLED reinforcing that it's a handheld that happens to be dockable. I mean in 2017 it could be both, but in 2021 it's kind of clearly a handheld with a TV out, and to me it's clear Nintendo fully embraces that based on the fact that all the upgrades are entirely handheld related. I get it. You get it. Nintendo itself seems to get it. But in the name of Zeus do NOT suggest that to the "fans" that seem to feel that even Nintendo is wrong about the true nature of Nintendo's products..... Truly the OLED especially is a pretty darned slick handheld. It's everything Vita tried and failed to be. As a console it's horrible. But who cares, you buy it because it's a slick handheld half the price of a decent Steam Deck and you can even dock it like a VitaTV without buying separate hardware.
But yeah, I mean I think Series S is great for next gen, and I think sales wise it'll be great in all the ways you said. I just can't quite wrap my head around the idea that the bottom next gen console should do worse at anything than the top end prior gen console. To me that means it released much too soon, and wasn't needed yet. I "get it", but I also don't.
I didn't read all of the last paragraph but I'm pretty sure the TL;DR is that Jim Ryan is scalping Xboxes and Tide to run for Senate, right?
Actually, I don't think it's a thing anymore ,but I remember when they had to start locking Tide behind glass in stores because it somehow became the currency of the drug trade. No joke. Because it's something everyone can use, and it's price holds fairly static, it actually became a virtual currency for drugs. People would steal it like crazy and you'd see people running carts full of it through the hood, where it would, indeed get scalped. Not sure that's still a thing since Tide pods became the defacto way for yuppie X360 bronies to poison themselves for fun?
Can Phil just create a new virtual world to live in? I'll even take Zuck's Meta....as long as it's not connected to Facebook.
Yeah I mean where the Walmart is was never close, maybe 15 min away back in the day. But today it's about half an hour, more in traffic (and when you can go is always in traffic), and with all the lights they've added I count maybe, 10? Maybe more now. But several of those are big ones that you'll be at for at least 2-4 rounds of and still have to cross through at least 3 other lanes that are going at the same time. Actually the shopping center the Walmart is in is one of the worst lights anywhere. I HATE that thing. A trip to Walmart may or may not cost you $10k in repairs by the time you're done.
Their delivery drivers seem to do it in 15min. But they're traveling off-peak times, and I'm certain they're traveling and Forza speeds and have a loose understanding of the color "red" on a light. Because virtually everyone here does. Is it that bad where you are? At MOST lights it turns red and you see another 4-8 people just blast through anyway. I don't mean slightly cutting it close, or gunning it as it changes. I mean it's been red before they even get to the line and they just keep going like they don't recognize the authority of lighting. It's not rare, it's the normal. On one hand it's because everyone knows the lights and traffic here is just total BS so nobody even cares. On the other hand that's the reason why...
@NEStalgia I have also perceived that opportunism that basically mean that they don't reply questions if they (A. and J.) know that they are wrong and then they do worse things. To be fair, I've only seen A. attack a few times and long ago, I think he changed because of the mods (what do you think?) but J. can't help it. I mean, when J. alluded to me on that thread after four years ignoring him with a straw man reply that's when I knew nothing has changed. I only disagree with you about one thing. I don't approve his attitude even if it's not always bad because I don't have to be his victim in order to avoid his wrath, it's something that makes me feel abused and that I don't tolerate and I don't think nobody should (I know you don't accept that part either but...). You are right about the topic and subtopics, I also noticed but my argument has always been the same so I carefully chose my words such as "what have Nintendo being doing as a developer" and "games developed in-house". However, it was very interesting seeing other people's arguments about the outsourced games so I also joined that topic but separating both. A lot of people got confused because they didn't want to read.
Usually, A. is funny to read, I almost never skip his comment because they are short and not purposely hilarious. Because I no longer see malice, I tend to be more patient and even reply. Sometimes, he's so repetitive that it's kind of a joke, though, like no Dance Dance Revolution (Xbox and Xbox 360 games) on Xbox One/Series X/S that should become a NL meme. Then you ask what about the backwards compatibility on the other consoles and he doesn't say anything. Or he complains about the lack of games that he wants on Xbox but then tell people not to complain about the lack of games they want on Switch.
I get what you mean about Forza Horizon 5 on Series S although I haven't played it like that. One thing I remembered after replying to you earlier is that when Forza Horizon 3 was released, I was playing on a 1080p LCD TV and you were playing close to a monitor, do you still play like that? It's very easy to see pixelated ForzabushesTM like that and I eventually understood you. I agree about the framerate, I love FH3 but there's always something missing after playing FH4, 60fps mode. Also, that LCD TV had a movie effect that disguised 30fps games (with input lag) and now I'm playing on an LG C9 that reflects the original input very well and VRR don't work below 30Hz. Frame rate has always been important for me because I'm sensitive to it and have had headaches because of that (no joke) but now it's even more important (because of game mode). Fortunately, Series X are LG C9 are serving me well.
As a side note, I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition of Forza Horizon 3 and that didn't include the expansions. People complain now about Forza Horizon 5 because Game Pass includes the standard edition. At least, the Premium Edition includes the expansions. It was much more expensive to play 3 than 4 or 5.
@BlueOcean A has definitely become a lot more self aware. And I know the mods have kind of tried to help him as much as they are able, and knowing he generally has support from the crowd. It's nice. And realistically he's actually more level headed than some regarding brand loyalty. He'll get stuck on the fanboy role at times, but when you read all he says he'll actually be critical at times, too, so I actually think his input is more valuable than some others. He's funniest with ACNH because while he disagrees strongly on what I dislike about it, he actually agrees about what's different about it vs prior games, it's just that he likes that and I don't. The blind fanboys insist they see no difference. So he's actually more on the objective side even where we disagree.
And yeah, I can't fault you with not putting up with someone you have to pick and choose what you engage them on and not. A healthy interaction doesn't require having to parse things and choose when to and when not to engage someone, whether agreed or disagreed, so you're kind of in the right there. I'd rather not throw the baby out with the bathwater and just totally avoid someone that has good and bad, but I definitely understand you wanting to.
Everyone else there, yeah, I forgive them for not reading the text walls. There were indeed a few sub-topics going, and I think a lot got confused there as a result. Everyone except J at least engaged the topic and even the strongest arguers did eventually find common ground or an understanding of the opposite view. Only one there was only there to defend and start arguments.
I do still play on the monitor. It's been upgraded to a 4k monitor since then which I got in advance of X and PS5. (Oh no there's another tech item I should buy a spare of that's now overpriced....) For FH5 on Series S at 60fps they say it still targets 1080p, but I think there's a lot of compromises you see up close. Text looks pretty shabby on the UI. Car models and roads look good. Buildings are simplified but good. Foliage is what takes the hit. There are moments where the brush sprites remind me of Doom....and I don't mean 2016.... In some ways it's better to stream the Series X version, but that has a lot of temporal artifacting and smearing of parts of the backdrop which make it debatable which is actually the worse way to play. But local has quick resume.....
Games like Yakuza 0 though, streaming is better than playing on S hands down. The temporal artifacting is easy on the eyes compared to the blurry low res graphics and horrible aliasing everywhere.
My display is LCD (IPS) but does have a game mode and fairly low latency for what it is) so maybe that is some of why I can't get myself to like the 30fps mode compared to my old monitor that was relatively slow. Some of it is just adjustment though. I didn't mind it so much in the introduction race until I switched to 30, and now I "see" the problem. It could also be the monitor though, I forget the technique it uses to be a fast refresh, but whatever it does, I think it can make the motion kind of jump back and forth. It's not usually a problem ,but cars going by can have a slight jitter to them.
I forgot about 3 and the expansion mess. That was the Hot Wheels pack and all, right? I jumped into that one late in its life, I think shortly before 4, and I think they had new bundles that had the expansions at discounts by then.
@SplooshDmg I believe in the Jim Ryan Edition console. Will it happen this year? No. Will it happen next year? No. Will it happen someday? I believe that.
RE Nintendo, yeah, all their consoles, save the Wii, had a descending sales trajectory. They just couldn't compete in the console space once Sony entered, really. The Wii was smart, just bow out of competing against Sony and MS that has that market locked, Westernized, and better understood,
but also failed terribly. Instead of converting a new group into regular gamers like it was supposed to, it was a flash in the pan whose market evaporated when it was done. It seems like some of that market has returned for the Switch. I don't see nintendo ever doing a dedicated home console again. They just never had success with that after SNES really. The handhelds are their core strength. But I think Switch kind of did what they needed, they still lost all the console gamers almost permanently now, but they managed to get their handheld market and merge it with that weird Wii/mobile market. Good business, but it ends up putting Nintendo's focus back where it was for Wii, which was really my least favorite era of Nintendo's history. A lot of that probably has to do with Japan. Japan won't touch consoles anymore other than Nintendo and is obsessed with mobile games. The more Switch is like a phone, the more Japan seems to love it. It's weird. I see where it's so successful. As a console it appeals to the former Wii market group, as a handheld it's actually pretty good for the money. But it ends up not doing a lot for traditional Nintendo or console fans. I guess it has a secondary sales market with the frequent flyers crowd that doesn't mind spending $60 on Darksiders 1 that runs half as well as it did at launch but at least it goes airborne.
It has its niche. It bugs me that its limitations mean it can't really do what it promised to do and become "one console to rule them all". It was a beautiful plan. But it's just so plain old bad as an actual console I just can't treat it as anything but a Nintendo Vita. Which is fair, I loved Vita and will never forgive Kaz for killing it. But the game prices get old.
IIRC, Iwata early on said it was basically about addressing the different preference in Japan and not Japan. Basically, Japan only plays portables, and the rest of the world only plays home consoles, so Switch was a way of having one platform to sell worldwide and cover all of that. The problem is only that as a handheld it's kind of a turbocharged monster (for 2017) and as a console it's basically Wii2 but without that childlike charm the Wii at least had. Seems like the right business choice, but means as a console they're forever stuck in Wii Land.
Yeah, see that always confused me with video cards, too. The newer ones should be be better than the best old ones, to me. That's half of how I'd end up in PC upgrade nightmares.
@SplooshDmg Yeah, if you're not in the market for a handheld they really don't have anything to offer other than specific games. Obviously if you need the exclusives you need the hardware, but otherwise I'd never recommend Switch to anyone as a non-handheld console in 2021. Series S is cheaper and better in every way other than being a handheld and having that handful of games. And ironically is more available...
Truthfully until the ProX41 I basically never touched the last gen consoles. They offered nothing a 3DS didn't offer. It wasn't until that mid gen bump they got appealing, really. I was amazed how bad the 2013 consoles really were.
I'm hoping we don't have mid gen bumps this time. Phil said they don't want that. But you kinda assume they will. OTOH the chip shortage now will last into 2023 at minimum. We're talking 2.5+ years into the generation before we complete "early adopter/launch" phase. Mid-gen upgrades are going to look really unsavory if immediately after everyone gets in on the console they're told it's now obsolete. I don't know how that's going to go down. Could end up with a 32X SegaCD Saturn upgrade fatigue where combined with the scalper cycle people just ignore it. Not the enthusiasts but everyone else.
@SplooshDmg It's also weird that Walmart is the ONLY store that's been getting Series X stock. Best Buy got some several weeks ago, no other store has got them in MONTHS. The whole thing is just bizarre.
Still annoyed that they had a drop this morning, told no one, it wasn't there this morning or saying it would be, then at some point I checked and had missed it.
@SplooshDmg I still kinda wonder how much of the sales are shortage-driven at this point, but that trick doesn't work over and over unless it's Nintendo.
I'd be pretty miffed if I spent 2 years trying to get one and then a year or so later they go "oh, that's the old model, you want the new model." It may "work" financially, but can kind of poision the well of the market too. Now if they use that one to start the "no more generations" continuous upgrades, I could see that. But an actual mid gen? That would be so ugly.
@SplooshDmg How did some dirtball that calls himself "Wario64" know about a Walmart drop, but Walmart's own website listed nothing at all, nor did they email anyone? See this is what I mean, something is very wrong about all this. How is there prior knowledge by random internet nuts where there is no official announcement of any kind?
AntOnline...darn didn't know about that one, though I think they've only been selling in expensive bundles. Gamestop...I was checking on Friday and didn't see anything other than AllAccess. I used to be a BJ's member, it's a membership warehouse like Costco. Seriously, how does this guy know these things in advance. That goes back to my idea there's something insider in distribution going on. They're probably sold out before they even go public from the inside.
No way I'm doing Facetwit for any reason, though. I'll go the legit route, but otherwise, scalpers will get my money post-holidays (or before if the price comes down, weirdly scalper prices came down again a little.) But this is so broken in so many ways. If random twitterguy knows these corporate moves, while they're not actually posted anywhere, and everything is sold in seconds unless you "follow" random twitterguy..... meanwhile the scaper markets have sold near 60k units.....there's something pretty wrong.
TBH, I'd actually just hit the scalper buy button today, were it not for the idea that that midgen bump will lurk in 2 years once I do Plus I probably ought to add a spare monitor to my list of "electronics my curse will destroy prematurely" and should get a spare of that too.
Also, Walmart is really annoying me. They're playing cute with their shipping now. More and more items (now Series S, too!) they're removing the shipping option and leaving only "deliver from store" which is "free" for W+ members, except it's not free because you're expected to tip the driver. So they're shifting away from "free shipping" where they pay UPS/FedEx and it's built into the price to "free delivery" where they pay squat for delivering it and you're supposed to pay the courrier....which is.....basically just paid shipping. Which goes back to why not just buy everything from scalpers and more expensive small sellers? It's basically the same price and more convenient.
TBH, I don't bother trying to figure out how "people" think anymore. "People" seem to process the world around them in a completely different way than people used to. I'm completely stuck on the way people used to, and literally can't comprehend the way "people" to day perceive anything. IDK what changed, but people's brains are definitely not wired the same way they used to be. With the iPhone though...well, ok, iPhone people really do "think different(TM)". But I think the thing is nobody expects to buy a phone annually, and everybody knows next year's phone will essentially be not different from this year's phone. Plus it's a general purpose device with a fixed life that you run into the ground over a few years. Consoles, though, the new one is sold as perceptibly better in a big way, and it usually is. An iPhone doesn't feel outdated once the new model is out. A console kinda does. Unless it's a Switch where the new model is literally the old model but with a nicer screen.
@SplooshDmg WOOOO! I got laundry detergent!!! It's not a Series X but I feel like just as much a winner, and also don't smell like an Xbox bro as a result, so it's really just as big a win on the Walmart lottery!
(Also the forum just accidentally edited a prior comment with this post. Great!)
@SplooshDmg I have a real uneasy view of the whole using bots and scouring the internet, knowing insider people, etc. I'm a color inside the lines kinda guy. That all feels just....wrong. But I'm also...sort of all or nothing. I don't like shades of gray (at least after the first 50), and little exceptions. Like if we're not going to color inside the lines and play by the rules, let's just go buccaneer and slash our way to victory. If rules don't matter, let's do without the pretense of rules at all. Winner take all, last survivor wins! Glory to Xbox! Something about that whole setup he has smells like an old fish factory. I mean he's basically facilitating the scalpers trade for them, centrally, I'm certain with inside info from somewhere...
Yeah I hate the whole tipping thing. I mean tipping is "optional" (but default) but that's how these people get paid. You don't want to be the thief that's not paying them, on the other hand it puts the customer in the middle, where shipping costs are built into pricing, the company offers "free" delivery but instead of shipping it normally sends it out at no cost via a peasant courrier,and expects you to put food on their table for the effort while they pocket the difference and hand it to investors. On one hand, you're getting screwed, the company is charging you for shipping that's already built into the costs via the tips. Rightfully you should elect not to tip and not get charged for something that's sold as free. OTOH the one getting hurt is the driver. And they'll probably sabotage your order if you're the non-tipper anyway. But if you tip then you're the one geting hurt. There's no way to stick it back to the company, which goes back to "I'll just pay double and get it shipped normally by scalpers on Amazon." They've found a way to end-run around paying for shipping, by unscrupulouly making it crowd-funded. All while monthly charging you for the service that gives you "free" delivery. What ti really is is half-off delivery. They waive the $8 "fee" but you still pay the $7 tip.
@SplooshDmg Only AndroidCentral people buy every year. That and the people that just want to flip the old one for near full price and keep getting new ones. I'm grateful to those rich buggers. I get new 6 month old phones for like 20% off.
3-4 years in a normal cycle I'd understand. But we're looking at 2-3 years just to fulfill launch demand, basically, this time. The inavailablility has made a conundrum of the generation. If Intel is right and the shortage goes into 2023, we're look at mid-2023 as the first time consoles may actually be on shelves. Another year and a half to go at best. Releasing an upgrade right at that time is a massive slap in the fact to everyone who endured the wait. Even Nintendo dared not take that route and nobody can grub money like they can. They just released a new screen and called it a day.
@NEStalgia Doom 1993? I imagine you sitting in front of the monitor and watching tree sprites going by 😂. Playing Forza Horizon on a 1080p LCD TV in movie mode was kind of smooth. There is stutter on the OLED in game mode but no input lag but, because of that, performance mode is more important now. 3, 4 and 5 look fine on the TV from a distance but performance mode has "rougher" graphics and some pop-in that it's actually more distracting. Give me 60fps any day, it was one of the reasons I loved Daytona USA.
@BlueOcean on the 1x and 1080p slow display I was all about 30fps in fh4, but on the xsx and fast 4k display 60 won. The series s kinda reminds me of fh4 on x1... And not Ina good way. But on the fast monitor I can't stand the stutter of 30...
@SplooshDmg looks like GameStop is doing in store only now too. Ugh. They don't have it here but the listings now show as in store only. So Walmart and scalpers are pretty much it. Maybe after Christmas it'll come back to normal ish, otherwise I'm betting if I want a spare it's scalpers or nothing. Virtual boy was easier to get 😂
@BlueOceancringe. If that thread has done anything it's mostly made me lose a lot of respect for some people by revealing their true colors. Some of them seemed fanboyish, defensive, argumentative for their favorite brand across comments over the years, but they didn't seem particularly offensive. But in that thread, oof, they've really shown a much darker side. Menchi used to say that that Nintendo fanbase was the worst of the four (+PC), and I thought it was the PS fanbase. That thread has me convinced he was right. TBH, I don't know how anyone can defend any megacorp when they're winning. All of them get obnoxious and abusive toward their customers. Nintendo's doing it now, Sony's doing it now, MS did it in Matrick's era and they'll do it again after Phil's era (or sooner if S dominates the market simply because it's available...) I don't get where this blind brand defense comes from in any camp.
Though, naming others not participating in the exchange in there will probably draw mod attention since it makes it, also, an attack post, really, and isn't necessary to get the point across. Probably best not to do that.
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