@SplooshDmg LOL I have too many long threads with people, I know how it goes. Blue dragged me into a "why Switch is disappointing in first party" thread in NL which has descended into the Switch zealots listing out all Nintendo published games as objective mathematical proof that most of Switch's library is NOT from the WiiU! Because the whole point of what's disappointing about it seems to just go so far over their heads, they still don't get it. It seems to come down to WiiU didn't have Mario Odyssey and SSMBU so switch is objectively better"
@SplooshDmg Don't forget the crowd that happily mains Nintendo and insists that there's absolutely no purpose to PS5 or XSX because a PC and a Nintendo do all the same things and more. And agruing why PSXB have value end up in pro-PC arguments that conflicts with touching Nintendo at all.
I mean, I love Nintendo. I've always loved Nintendo. The product not the company, the company has always been a yakuza front, but the Switch zealotry is just another level. I get it. It's an amazing handheld. It honestly is. The hardware sucks compared to modern phones but it costs 1/4 the price and is more suited to the use. But when arguing against WiiU+3DS and insisting Switch's library of non-ported games is bigger and better.....wha? There are a few stand-out games on it, like FE3H etc....but....only a few (first party, excluding some 3rd party gems.) It's hard to know how to respond when you're attacked for saying Dread (which I love), Warioware, the half baked Kirby game, and Luigi's Mansion 3 (which I love) are HD 3DS games because "it couldn't run" on a 3DS. I blame @BlueOcean for dragging me into that hopeless battle and then abandoning post. Reminds me of when people insisted Miles, FHW, and Ragnarok "couldn't run" on a PS4.
@SplooshDmg Uh, so I was refreshing the page while logged in. Weirdly the one refresh right before the clock turned 4:00 ET I saw an item in my card for $11.94 or something....no idea what that was (and then it was gone), and the next refresh it said the deal was sold out. It never even showed it was in and I was refreshing constantly. It was gone before it was ever even available. There was no add to cart button, it was just "available at 4:00, available at 4:00, sold out."
It simultaneously shows it's sold out with an apology and also has a countdown timer of 24 minutes of me in a line, with an option to leave the line, stay in the line and shop other pages, and says you have 10m to check out once your turn comes. Sold out, in line, in line for a sold out item that was never available before it was sold out and put me in line.....really hard to figure this stuff out
rjejr got his PS5 (through sony) when the 1hr countdown was on the last 40-some seconds. So who knows. This all feels so stupid. I hope there's no mid-gen bumps. I don't want to do this again for another 6 years. Though Nintendo will have a new unavailable model in 2 years I'm sure.
Edit: And I had 2 tabs open. One stopped counting down at 10 minutes, the other counted down to 1 and then just stayed there. Opened another tab and it showed 10 minutes again.... So...broken as usual. And I'm guessing they sold out in under 1/4 second since it never went live at all. There really has to be a better way. At least I only lost $7 on the attempt since I needed to buy laundry detergent for $6 shipping. But I still feel slighted that it was sold out before the add button ever even went live. Doesn't matter how efficient bots are, between two taps of F5 it went from "not available" to "sold out". What did they have, like 3?
Edit: LOL the countdown on the 10m tabs is now counting down again..... OMG, seriously how hard can it be to not do this so wrong? It's just funny, a year of this and it's still blundered at every turn. And the countdowns, which weren't even totally synched between tabs, all stalled at 1 min now. I honestly wonder if they had any at all, or if this was just a stunt to sell more W+.
I noticed when the deal went live a scalped X dropped to $750 and back up when it was done. That was the legit best chance I've seen yet.
@NEStalgia I didn't abandon the post! i posted my brutal and honest criticism on every page and I said that you're right. I'll check last comments and post again. And yes, Switch zealots are exactly what you said.
@BlueOcean The sad thing is we're not even saying we don't like the system or that it has no worthwhile exclusives. We're criticizing internal studio output on the console compared to the wiiu/3ds and they still go nuts. The list was just too much, I saw that and the fact that their own list agreed with my point and they tried to defend that I'm wrong.... At that point I was just like "ok, I'm done" 😧
@NEStalgia That's why I had to write the list and the skiliddder-whatever* insulted me and edited it afterwards. The list is totally lame and the conclusion is that we and the OP are right. It's funny when their arguments is not what it's being discussed.
@SplooshDmg well, I at least managed to score a series s from the Walmart sale. And they're still there! And Microsoft store has the s Fortnite bundles in stock now so maybe S pain is alleviated until Halo drops? At first getting an s at MSRP with no controller purchase felt like a big victory, but seeing it there still makes me think I got conned. I'm still going to keep an eye out on X just as intensely though. Could always return the s, or more likely make it a local streaming console so I can access my actual library, streamed.
At least I'll have something that's not a 1x, good in it's own right, for when the x goes down. Sounds crazy to need a RAID of consoles but when you've got so much invested in games, it's like locking yourself outside.
I'm not sure if theres just so much less demand for s or if theres just do many more of them or if it's an scalper driven. Really, how did the allotment sell out at precisely 4:00 before the button even went live?
@BlueOcean seriously that list, I don't even know how to respond to that list. Like, it's in black and white and half the games are old and most of the new ones are small mini games. "But more open world sandbox games!" Huh? All two of them plus smash? Links awakening remake was small but warioware is big? "Well what's small and big it's not scientific!" I, like, literally can't even.
@NEStalgia They are not reasonable people, they live within a bubble where the reality is completely distorted. And what exactly do they mean by the open-world games on Switch? Do they mean the first Wii U port (BotW) or Super Mario Odyssey that while not big it certainly has these empty worlds filled with sand? The list is unquestionable. Even some of the new games are like Wii U expansion (Splatoon 2, Super Mario Maker 2...), a cartoony boxing game, an empty Animal Crossing that they filled in one year later...
@BlueOcean somehow Odyssey, SwSh, smash, Splatoon (because that's so different from the wiiu one?), And Luigi all count as open world sandbox? Or something. Not the sports and party games don't feel bigger because their genre doesn't really change.... Or something. I really can't follow their thoughts, but theyre really really sure of what they're saying. And I don't have the inclination to try to make a technical document for them as to how absurd it is... I'd end up getting detail wrong and they're 3 pounce on it. Idk. It's not like I was saying the there's no good games.... But heaven forbid you compare Nintendo to Nintendo and suggest Nintendo isn't as good.... 🤔
@SplooshDmg I just bought deathloop on ps. Why did I even do that? Idk but I was curious even though it'll be on grandpa's Game pass in a year and it was half price...... This is what happens when Forza is down....
And I probably won't even play much. I still have 100 Yakuza games to play!
I really felt like the s was a coup at first but since they didn't sell out right away and since the Fortnite bundles are coming, maybe it wasn't an important buy. Oh well. Still keeping eyes peeled for x though. Before I buy more ps games... . (still would rather get persona 5 strikers on switch. Handheld friendly game, and it looks like a PS3 game anyway even on PS5. But half price on ps.
@SplooshDmg I tend to just troll the sales at Black Friday and E3. It's how I build up most of my library. I have, what 350 some games in the backlog? I'll never play most of them. But I'll try all of them like my own private arcade which is fun in itself. I rarely end up paying full price for anything but Switch games (MH Rise, SMTV, had to go at full price.... plus Nintendo's games of course.) I'm done full price Sony, launch was the last time I pay full price for them (Unless they ever make Sly 5, then I'm preordering.) And MS I don't need to with GP. So I just quietly build an immense library at 20-70% off twice a year, and occasionally in between sales if I'm tracking a specific game like Ys. This year I actually splurged more than usual. There were several things on XB that were must haves or curiosities I was tracking. Scarlet Nexus months ago on sale, and Black Friday, Tales of Arise, Cyberpunk (At half price with a free next gen upgrade coming, I'll bite, it can sit next to Witcher 3 in my will play pile), Sonic Colors (I'm a sonic-staved old Genesis player....), and Lost Judgement (sale on one of the only Yakuza games I don't have right after launch, I'll take it...just need a Judgement 1 sale first, even though it's only $40 full price.)
On the Sony side, I overpayed at $50 for Returnal because my Xbox is down and I was curious. It's actually a pretty cool game. I still don't think any rogue is worth $50 let alone 70, but it's actually surprisingly good. One of the last "gamey games" (as Blue and I often discuss here about MS games) that Sony's put out. Pure arcade, weird shooter shmup platformer rogue, that you sometimes forget is a rogue because it has a kind of Diablo dungeon crawl shmup thing going on. It would have been better without the story. I read the spoilers and where the story goes is pretentious AF and kind of kills the otherwise interesting world they built for the sake of being arty and "profound." But who cares about the overwrought story, shooty shooty goes pew pew good. It's like T2 The Arcade Game. If you're playing to find out what happens to the Connors you're doing it wrong. It's Sony's take on an Xbox game, basically. Though it's not Sony, Housemarque was still indie when they made it.
I bought Demon's Souls because I hate myself and have no self control and it was on sale almost half off. Actually I bought it because I was curious if it would help me get into the Souls series, since I own basically all of them already, and since everyone says it's the easiest, and as the first in t he series, it kind of has to be the most simplistic and easier to get into. And the Elden Ring trailers look so freaking good and I can't play them. I am starting to do better than before, I actually cleared the first area in a Souls game. It was a LOT of work though. I almost like it and also kind of don't, but I'm still on the "I can't believe I'm playing a Souls game and not failing completely" high. It's kind of a roguelike. Nobody says it but it is. You keep replaying from the start until you unlock a checkpoint by way of opening a map shortcut. It's cool but also needlessly time consuming and stressful.
Both Returnal and DS are the same kind of time waster, but the action actually is good in both.
Deathloop...really why did I buy a game that's going to be on GP in under a year? IDK, but for $30 at half price and all the praise it gets it's worth trying I guess? It uses the haptics nicely so there's that. It's pretty good so far. Did the first section (one loop). It's definitely an Arkane game. Plays a lot like Dishonored with a 70's earth tones backdrop. An actual Arkane immersive sim up for a Keighly....pretty amazing. It's a non rogue that pretends it's a rogue. (Why is everything a rogue?) Kinda cool. Very Arkane. Ordinarily it wouldn't be my thing, but it's Dishonored meets Fallout meets Wet meets We Happy Few. What's really to complain about? The UI.. The UI deserves complaint....
Persona 5 strikers....maybe goes to PS. Half price. Occasionaly it does drop on Switch but rarely. Sega's fault.
And yes, I'm going to strangle you. HTF did they email the guy who bought 5 of them and not the one who bought.....2...?
@SplooshDmg Oh, I'm doing all digital black friday. Other than a few Nintendo games, I stopped buying physical in 2018 when I got my 1X. And I was one of those 'you'll pry my physical games from my cold dead hands" people until then. Of course I was stuck on 4G cellular until then and almost never played my PS4 because patches were to big.... It's the PSN/MSStore sales. I'm pretty amazed Sony was selling the brand-spaking-new Deathloop at half price which is so unlike them and probably why I bought it (while 1 year old Demons Souls was like 43% and 8 month old Returnal was like $20%) I wonder if that game is totally under Bethesda's pricing control? Phil's like "yeah sell our new PS exclusive half price and undercut all their other exclusives...." lol
Yeah, I paid too much for Returnal at $50 ($70 is absurd, $50 is still wrong, but my xb is down and I was curious....) It really is a good (indie) game though. Too expensive, but plays great. Sony will never allow other controllers officially. Unofficial ones always exist, but they don't always behave right unless they're wired. Thankfully I actually like the Dual Sense, which is nice after hating DS4 and loathing passionately DS3. Feels basically like an X1 controller to me now.
Hah, I likely have some of that same OCD, but just "unofficially" namely because I don't do the medical world unless I'm hemorrhaging. Even then I'll try to glue it first. I can relate to the wardrobe of all the same thing and unshakable routine otherwise I get a bit....irritable.... Console switching doen't bother me though (other than Nintendo to PSXB controls which also trips up Phil....)
Yeah, I was totally over with Souls, but when I saw the Elden trailers I got kind of interested. I don't like the memorizatoin/pattern formula of Souls games, and the combat is just so.....ugh. The pattern is too much work, stress, and wasted time. It's a great game if it's the only game you own because you could spend all year working on it. Over and over. Like an arcade game. But Elden really shakes it up with an open space. And someone said it looks like on death you checkpoint much closers to bosses/locations. That's my biggest problem with souls is the roguelike backtracking. That's what makes it "hard" is just having to endure so long with no checkpoint if you mess up. If Elden takes the gameplay, make it open, and doesn't waste your time with so much backtracking it could be really good. If....
I just like digital hoarding. I need my hoard of available games to grow endlessly so I can look at my vault and say "yep, I'm stocked for life with anything I might ever want!" It's fun when I buy like 10 new games then spend all year playing FFXV from 5 years ago.... Deathloop is weird, but weird in a good way. But it's SO Arkane I can't imagine why it's getting so much recognition. It's true, anything that says Sony or Nintendo just gets a pass. Nobody cared about Arkane until it was Sony exclusive. Now i'ts GOTY nominee. It doesn't play any different from any other Arkane game that everyone ignored...
I just love the 70's so it just works for me. Earth tones, worm letters, woodgrain paneling....it's how the
world was meant to be. I never left the 70's/early 80's. That's why I love Japan...
I'll just go crazy laughing if MS sends me a link. There's 2 XSX on my account, one in for repair, and I guess an XSS soon. If they invite me it's just funny
@SplooshDmg Did it really sell that bad? I thought I remembered seeing some numbers and it wasn't nearly as woeful as Returnal which they're barely even discounting.
I switched digital long before I got GP. I was physical die hard by desire and necessity both. It's one reason that really kept me Nintendo focused for so long too. Much smaller games and patches. I got the 1X as a celebrationary treat when I finally got good internet. I was looking for something to revenge buy to make up for all the years I couldn't really game right. It was either going to be a 1X or a PC and I went 1X (they also co-advertised it with the ISP which made it fun. Can't feel like you'll get punished for downloading terabytes when the ISP literally advertised with MS to tell you to do it...) And after I got used to just "click a game and run it", getting up and sorting throgh a stack of games that then fall over when you do it and wondering which case you stuck the wrong disc in just felt....obsolete. So I switched totally except for occasional Nintenod games. Though physical these days is cheaper AND has real value....so...I do question myself sometimes. But I used to play one game until it was done and then switch. Going digital encouraged me to jump around. It's probably unhealthy but I'm hooked now. It's fun.
IDK, Dual Sense feels about the same as the 360/x1/elitev1 to me. Series/EliteV2 feel smaller. DS4 was just too small... I always preferred XB controllers ergonomically, they just disappear in the hand. DS5 is the first Sony controller I'm not "aware of" in my hands. Thankfully. I spent hundreds trying to find a controller I didn't hate for PS4.
Yeah...I'm probably as certifiable as you, just uncertified. I "get it" which isn't a good thing. Switching systems just doesn't do that to me though. It's all under one big gaming umbrella in my brain so it's all good. Maybe it's all that Nintendo 2 screen gaming that did it. Keybo/mouse to controller really messed me up a while but that's about it. "circle", "B", Nintendo-B....takes a minute to switch but I find I tend more times than not to just recognize the feel and automatically know it. Sitching games can mess me up though. Going from, say, Got to HzD that has basically the same features mapped completely differently....that really messes with me.
Totally with you on the stress, and the backtracking being hte source of it. I think I could enjoy tough bosses if they just spawned me in front of it. But I hate having to do challenges I already did. I really just dislike that repetitious format. I only got past that Phalanx boss because it spawns you right in front of him and you can just run past the zombies into his room. That made it a proper checkpoint I'm sure the rest of the game lacks. I doubt I'll really play much souls, but it's nice to finally participate in it slightly. It's too stressful. Not fun. But fun that I finally get to properly see what people are talking about without hating all of it. Plus I cheated and played the royal. pew pew!
I really don't know why Arkane sells so bad. It seems like they have everything gamers would love. Dishonored was dark and creepy and assassiny. Deathloop is edgy and loud. It has shooty boom boom, it has playground sandboxy make your own game.....it's all on trend. Though....again....70's funk "black cinema" proooobably isn't super marketable. But with all the advertising it got, you'd really think it would do ok. IF gamers don't want Arkane, I don't know what they do want.
I'm worried about Redfall. It just doesn't look like it's very "Arkane". And a looter shooter....eww..
@NEStalgia Bethesda did change their approach to things at some point prior to the acquisition to focus on monetization and live service, that's how we got stuff like Fallout 76 and the mobile games. Redfall being a looter shooter would fit into this approach given the genre is well known for its monetization and live service nature.
@BlueOcean It's like talking to a brick wall that's safely behind glass.
@Grumblevolcano Yeah, that's why I'm worried about it. Assuming it was started before the buyout anyway. But it's just yuck no matter what. Looter shooters were almost kinda interesting in the PS360 era. That ship really should have sailed by now. An Arkane live service MTX game is an abomination. It would be like id making an MMORPG. In my headspace I'm just calling it "Crackdown 4: Buffy"
@SplooshDmg "Did well the week it launched, then disappeared" You mean like TLoU2? It's fun that TLoU2's permanent price is less than Returnal's sale price....
Still, if they're going to call Returnal a success, they have to call Deathloop a success. Returnal numbers are just bleak. As expected. R&C did ok. It may not look impressive next to PS4 hits, but as a percentage of the install base it's actually above the PS4 average, so you could say it did great. We'd have to see where Deathloop landed as a percentage of install. Heck, Demon's Souls numbers are pretty bleary and that was their launch headliner. Sure ,it's no HFW, but it also didn't cost as much I'm sure.
Totally agreed on slog. Hades, everyone loves it, I don't. I actually enjoyed the first area. Then I found out the bosses respawn. Nevermind. That's not fun replaying part one over and over to get into part 2, and the moment you misstep it was all for nothing. Returnal actually works somehow. I'm getting nowhere, but the shmup shooting is fun enough I kinda don't notice. The story though needs to go. What seemed interesting really isn't. Only problem is even in the first area it's now getting harder and harder, so what I was able to easily do once i can't seem to do again. Could just be me though.
Totally agree on the slog of souls though. There's a good game in there, there really is. But doing the exact same path over and over "practicing", "learning" etc....too much time into one tiny section of game. In some ways its worse than rogues. Rogues you still gain some items and stats as you play and fail so it's sort ofjust a normal rpg grind. Souls you not only get nothing for failure, you get what you already had taken from you. Add that to the trial and error level design where you have to keep dying to learn what is where, what paths are good, etc.....most of the game's lengh is just arbitrary forced deaths. There's a good game behind it but that lack of checkpointing makes it frustrating and stressful for no reason. I wish I could do better with it but I'm not willing to put that time in I don't think. I have 350 games to play, some of them are 100 hour journeys. I don't want to spend 6 months grinding the boletarian bridge until I can't take it anymore. That's what F2P games are for. I just really hate repetition. A lot. And souls forces repetition as the primary mechanic. The shortcuts are checkpoints, but you have to guess where they are, die 100x exploring to try to locate them, then do a perfect run to do it. Gross.
I love how deathloop presents itself as a rogue but isn't. It's a timeloop thing, but it's really stage based. Die 3x and you start the level again without your goodies you found this time. it makes it feel like it's not level based but it is.
I'm good without looter shooters at all though. Redfall, I'm kinda just writing off for now. And most service games that make the service up front. (Not Assassn's Creed which it isn't integral.) It's hard for me to be objective on that idea because I can't find any style of game more insipid than the massive online GaaS, and that includes Halo multiplayer. Though I would probably have tried it for giggles if there were not mtx. The things that make the most money, I just can't figure out why people pay anything for them. The online shooters, the big GaaS games....the industry says that's where the money is, and I look at it and can't imagine wasting playing it let alone paying for it. Then again movies still make money and I doubt I'll ever actually watch one again. I can't think of anything more boring and soulless than the modern movie. Other than a Naughty Dog game, but it's basically the same thing. And there's nothing on TV but reality and gameshows and I don't get why people do that either.
So mostly, I don't understand how and why most of the human race does what they do most of the time.
@SplooshDmg The promotional pricing on Deathloop probably is strategic for MS too, though. Deathloop is the newest Sony exclusive, and it's currently cheaper than all other PS5 exclusives. It helps set the stage of expectations for what pricing to expect from Sony 1st party games......it's not often a company gets to set the expectations for a competitors pricing from inside it
Definitely agreed on the whole "turn a 30 minute game into an 80 hour game" bit. Just looking at W1-1 of Boletaria, that took me like 3 days. But if the game didn't send you back to spawn constantly, that whole level is essentially 9 or 10 rooms and corridors. If you could hack and slash your way through it it would be like a 15 minute level at best. 5 worlds, 2 parts each plus a third part in 2, so 12 worlds, 15 minutes each, it's about a 3 hour game if you could blast through it in a line. So by making it super hard and resetting you constantly it becomes a full length RPG with tedious grind for souls to consume time. "If your game is too easy, add a timer, if your game is too short, make it harder." is an old development mantra I used to hear.
Oh yeah, TLOU MP is definitely going to be mtx ridden gaas. I still don't understand how f2p pulls in so much money, but I know it does. It's garbage purchases for garbage things. I'm a function over fashion person all the way. People buy kitchen appliances because they compliment the counters and give bad reviews to colors that aren't as pictured. I just buy gray-brushed-SS commercial stuff that looks like it was built to surivve WWII. It'll do the job better and more reliably forever than anything else. Period. Why would anyone buy anything else?!
I suppose I'm an SP or bust gamer. I do splatoon but that's the only online game (other than shared space kind of games) I've touched basically in 20 years. I just don't get the whole "goof around with other people" aspect I guess. I didn't do the "play with other kids" thing as a kid, either. I was "Nintendo Karen" I guess
@SplooshDmg Minecraft is one thing I just don't "get". Maybe I'm too old to get it. I tried it on Switch and I'm like "so....what's the point?" I love DQ Builders though. It's like MC but with a purpose.
Edit: BTW, the Series S has arrived. Not sure when I'll get it set up but at least I have a Series console instead of the 1X again. Love the 1X. And Yakuza is identical on both of them. But somehow I feel better with the Series.
The X is in the work queue over at MS, so probably a few days until they send it back. Funny thing is now I'll probably sideline it and continue deathloop and GoT on PS5 for a while. Though I have to get some FH5 in.
I also grabbed a spare Elite V2 controller. I saw the low prices at Amazon and Walmart the other day and thought "oh cool, they're cheaper now, good to know" and then noticed yesterday it was back up to normal, and only $30 off not $40 off at Newegg. Oops. Then I noticed the MS store had them at the old sale price from last week. I absolutely love that thing. So now I've got a spare.
Builders is Minecraft with objectives. I hate trophies but like objectives. I don't get "make your own fun" I guess. Sandbox Fallout, Minecraft, even Sot, I play for 5 minutes and it's like "ok...what am I DOING here? What's the goal?" That's why I like Deus Ex and Hitman and Arkane games. You have a goal, and no rules on how to do it so you figure it out and make it up (and cheeze your way out of it) as you go. That's fun sandboxing. I don't like a sandbox sandbox that just says "ok, here's tool go do, like stuff and stuff." Do WHAT? WHERE? WHY? Fudge it I'm playing Dark Souls.
Yeah the box itself seems small just in the shipping carton, and I know it looked small on Phil's shelf....it'll be weird. Smaller than 1X probably. That's just weird. I'm nervous about how inferior it will or won't seem compared to X.
Well you're crazy enough to know you're right even if what you say doesn't make sense, so that's all that counts. Like in that NL switch thread Blue mentioned where indie mini games really are worth the same price as big games and the definition of "big" is arbitrary and personal opinion because if you really really want to believe a 2D side scrolling 8 hour game is as big as Skyrim, then it IS as big as Skyrim! Some of those people are people that I genuinely like, they're multiplat gamers, they're good people.... but OMG when the they go Nintendo Defense Force do they ever go full NDF. I was probably like them once, in all honesty ,but now it's like "please just listen to yourself....pleeeease!" Nice, well meaning, otherwise reasonable people but never ever question Nintendo near them. You'll never escape the circular argument.
The grips are nice, but the overall feel of the sticks really is the best part. Technically it's overpriced for what it is, and I don't love the internal battery instead of replaceable. But the charging cradle case is so cool I overlook it. But I just love the smooth glide of the sticks, those teflon ring inserts keep it super smooth. And the choice of stick caps is really nice. Right stick = 360 cap, left is stock for me, personally. Though I don't hate the DS5 so there's that. I had V1 too, and I liked it but it never felt like an X1 controller it felt like a hybrid of X1 and Duke. It was clunky. V2 feels like a slightly less ergonomic Series controller that somehow still fits comfortably. But....you may dislike it comparatively since it's not identical to the Series controller in design (it's half way between X1 and Series), and I don't dislike DS5 and you do, so blind buying a controller may not be ideal for you. I love mine enough I bought a spare, so that says something though. Watch, next month they announce V3 with "SideWinder Direct Force Feedback" technologyto rival Dualsense. I'd be so mad....
What I don't like is the permanent battery but the charging cradle case is really slick so I overlook it.
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