Xbox has only just rebranded 343 Industries to 'Halo Studios' in the wake of the series' big Unreal Engine 5 revolution - and already the speculation is out there that this hints at a strong push towards a PS5 release.
That speculation may partly derive from previous reports suggesting Xbox was working on a Halo: Combat Evolved remaster for the Sony platform, but still, the topic is out there and folks are talking about it. Heck, Digital Foundry has also suggested the PS5 possibility in a recent article on the series' UE5 switch.
But, do you think this is a move in that direction? Could Halo really go to PS5? Honestly, that's such a crazy thought that we're still processing it - and have been ever since that Halo remaster rumour. For clarity's sake, here's how DF suggested the move in its discussion on the matter:
"From a multi-platform game development perspective, moving to Unreal Engine 5 would certainly be easier for the developer than porting across the existing Slipspace engine,
It stands to reason that an engine designed for deployment across multiple platforms would be easier to work with than existing technology built for Xbox and PC."
The article also mentions that the old Slipspace engine could have been deployed on PS5 of course, and any suggestions that this Unreal switch is to enable PS5 development is pure conjecture at this point. Microsoft and the Halo team seem to have plenty of other reasons for ditching the old engine.
Of course, fans on the other side of the fence have also begun speculating about this - we're sure PlayStation players would be eager to get a hold of Xbox's flagship franchise on PS5. As for us here at Pure Xbox, we're yet to be convinced that this is part of Xbox's plan, but who knows really. Halo on PS5 seems unfathomable, but it doesn't look like much is off the table these days!
Comment down below and tell us what you think of this Halo on PS5 malarkey.
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Hopefully....Halo Gears and Forza should be on PlayStation and Nintendo....single player games should be exclusive.
Just an opinion.
Hopefully not. And hopefully people will actually call it out instead of rolling over for it if it does happen. Make ABK games multiplat for the revenue, and Zenimax games multiplat if you have to. But XGS games should be exclusive. Especially Halo, Gears and Forza (and Fable).
But hey we know that it’s going in a different direction. Industry led by Geoff Keighley letting it happen and celebrating it.
If it was just the change to Unreal 5? I'd say no. But the whole studio has been been rebranded to Halo Studio. Which if it was just for the benefit of Xbox users would be pointless as we all know that was 343. So makes sense it's been rebranded for a multiplatform release in the future.
Halo CE remake could be the first Playstation game while Xbox/PC gets Halo 7 as exclusive till the rest are remade.
Doesn't matter to me personally if they put the next Halo on Playstation, Nintendo or a smart toaster.
I care more that the game is a fun & engaging experience for anyone who wants to play it. That was missing for me with infinite and that is way more important to me than the platforms it releases on.
Xbox Studio's have built games in Unreal for years - exclusively for Xbox - Gears of War is a classic example so doesn't mean that they will be porting to Playstation.
Of course they could - after all the only way to expand your online community is to make it available to more people - especially those who wouldn't or can't buy a Console just for Halo. That being said, I also think they have several 'shooters' that will be Multi-platform (CoD, Doom etc) so maybe could keep Halo as an Exclusive...
This was the point I made yesterday. The whole rebrand, the old rumours that Halo was going to the PlayStation, and now the new rumours that Evolved is being remade (supported by the Chief in his old Evolved armour), all point to at least Evolved heading to the PlayStation.
Personally, I think it will be a mistake to port one of the big 3 Xbox exclusives to the PlayStation, as exclusives are one of the main reasons that people choose a particular console. Take away those exclusives, and you have just the subscription services that differentiate the consoles, and judging by the additions (and subtractions!) we've seen with Game Pass in recent months, and it's clear that the Service is not as good as it once was (despite it now costing more), and so is not the draw that it was.
Ultimately, whilst I believe Halo should remain a console exclusive in order to keep people buying Xbox consoles now and in the future, I think the direction of travel is that Halo Combat Evolved Remastered will be the first of the series to make the transition to the PlayStation. I think this could also either be a day one for PlayStation, or after an extremely short period of exclusivity as we have seen with Indiana Jones.
Once Halo has made the leap, I think that we will also see Gears of War: E-Day also make the same move, likely with the same period of exclusivity (or not) as Halo CE Remastered.
Personally, I think this will be akin to reading the Last Will and Testament for Xbox because why fork out £1600-£2000 for the next Xbox and PS6, when you can just own a PS6, buy the games there, and still have saved yourself something in the order of £500+...?
Sad times if that comes to pass...
Eventually Halo will go to playstation but not ps5.
But playstation will also accelerate it's multiplatform in the future and a lot of their games will find their way to all platforms including xbox. Personally I think the longterm future of consoles looks like pc. In order to get xbox games on Playstation you will need to load the Xbox storefront and vice-versa on xbox. The Playstation store will be needed to buy their games on xbox. I'm hoping/predicting the EU forcing Apple and the US forcing Google to allow other storefronts on their phones will also affect consoles and get rid of exclusives all together.
I own XB and PlayStation but personally I’m more intrigued by which PlayStation ‘exclusives’ Xbox gamers would most look forward to buying/playing on their next Xbox (assuming it is some sort of PC hybrid, which seems to be where the smart money is heading).
@MSX so Mario and god of war should be on Xbox as well tf
@Fiendish-Beaver to be fair I have been here with a few Microsoft consumer products. The minute Microsoft plays nice to the competition & shares. It tends to be GAME OVER!!! to there hardware specially with Nadella at the helm.
I think if any of the established major 1st party titles from Microsoft such as Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza go to another console, i think that would signify the beginning of the end. I just don't see how Xbox can survive as a brand without titles that separate it from other consoles.
@Feffster I’m most interested in Horizon Zero Dawn/ Forbidden West and ghost of Tsushima
/yotei…but not enough to buy a PlayStation since my current Xbox backlog is ridiculous
I think Halo on PS5/6 (without gamepass) would
1) be very profitable for Microsoft.
2) The end of Xbox as a console, even if MS claimed otherwise.
It doesn't matter if they only plan on releasing it to "prime" Sony users for the next main entry which will be exclusive it will se the precedent that all the games will come.
It the exact same thing that makes steam gamers go "I'll pick it up on sale" and Xbox users go "I'll wait for gamepass". Doesn't matter if it's explicitly not going g to be onsale/gamepass, they will wait.
(Related, it also Didn't work for Sony whey they thought releasing games late on PC would make them flood to Playstation).
Personally I don't really care as I own both consoles. I just hope the next halo is better than infjnite story wise. I never finished the game due to the imo co fusing way the story is told. Maybe a soft reboot is in order or alteast a summary at the beginning of the next installment.
If Halo comes to PlayStation, I think I’ll be done with the platform. The prospect of the Halo franchise revitalizing itself gets me out of bed to support Xbox, even if next year looks like it’ll finally be “the year.” I mean, provided the games hit instead of being in that Hellblade/Starfield tier of games that fall short of expectation.
@BacklogBrad Sony will never put a Sony studio developed game on Xbox. You might get lucky and see Sony published titles like Helldivers.
@Browntrouser it’s unlikely but it ultimately comes down to the shareholders. Even Sony answers to them. If Marathon does well on Xbox it might open a door for some more multiplayer games.
I think each multiplatform announcement this year has been presented in such a way to get people gradually used to that even bigger stuff is going multiplatform in the future.
They went from announcing 2 in a Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase to the initial 4 for PS5 in random trailers later that day.
Then DOOM day 1 on PS5 happened but the PS5 announcement wasn't in the Xbox showcase, it was a random trailer after the event.
Finally Indiana Jones on PS5 which not only was announced before the Xbox version released but also was treated as the "one more thing" gigantic announcement of the event it was in.
So yes, I do believe that Halo is coming to PS5. As for a fitting announcement timing, maybe the Game Awards as it's the 10th anniversary of the event?
@Browntrouser I disagree. I think Sony executives will see the success of sea of thieves, etc and force playstation executives to do the same. I definitely think disney/marvel will eventually force them to put spiderman everywhere like MLB did.
People said the same thing about playstation games on pc when xbox first started putting every game on pc.
And to the other point I was making. Playstation is rumored to be making a pc storefront where their games will be available to purchase and play day 1. I think that storefront will be able to be side loaded to a future xbox console making all their games playable on that future xbox if playstation isnt already just outright making every game for nintendo and xbox.
Yes it will, as will gears , there will be a gears collection for ps next year, followed by the new gears 6 months after the xbox launch
@BacklogBrad spiderman is a different situation as Sony still have movie rights which holds sway with disney , I doubt Sony putting any of their first party games on xbox, there's just no incentive to do so,with its weak sales and game pass mindset of its users.
My question is if they're going to just put what few homegrown exclusives they have on playstation, why bother making another xbox console? Who is going to choose to buy that when they can buy a PS6 and choose from pretty much every game that releases? Xbox needs a unified plan so badly lol
@Browntrouser totally agree , it's never gonna happen
@Shalooda I dont see the movie rights as an issue. What are they going to do stop making spiderman movies to spite disney? They don't have any leverage here. The fact is that Sony and Disney will make more money by putting the games everywhere and making as many movies as possible and both companies care about money more than anything else.
Hopefully not, and not because I don’t want PS gamers to enjoy these games, but because the platform needs to retain some identity and once they launch Halo on any competing console the Xbox brand is gone for good.
If it does I will have no reason to own an Xbox.
Quite simply- yes.
@TheSimulator
Multiplayer games everywhere
Single player games exclusive
Not hard to understand
Mario & God of War multiplayer games everywhere
Mario & God of War single player games exclusive
I don't see a problem with this. More people that get to play this franchise the better.
@Ken_Kaniff to many like myself. More players playing isn't a problem. But looking at how Sony acts now with Xbox struggling. Could you imagine what they will do when Microsofts multiplatform strategy kills the Xbox console for good. As I see the next one as the last one to be fair.
@cragis0001 Yea I see what you're are saying, but it was eventually going to go this way for one of them. It was never going to stay an almost 50/50 split like it was during the 360/PS3 era. MS was in this position at the beginning of last gen and was trying to push shady tactics with DRM, Kinect etc, and it cost them and they haven't been able to recover since. I do agree with you that it's a healthy market with both of them, but with last gen being the gen everyone built out there digital libraries. Whichever platform you were on then is probably the one you stick with and nothing MS does will ever change it. Even Phil said this when he was on XCast.
Honestly speaking, i would probably migrated to pc handheld and keep my current console if this comes to past, mostly because i want my time to be actually valued as a costumer of a product.
This feels a lot like a short sighted move that while Microsoft will get a good number of users from playstation for now ,but will that be enough money than what current xbox, alongside pc, users make for them? Like would it really do it? Especially if they are planning a new generation of hardware.
Then you would need to think, with this stunt, how could Xbox figure heads like Phil and Sarah even think anyone is going to go to their platform once the next generation comes along? I mostly see more than the majority of users leaving it behind in favor of pc handheld or playstation, since they feel like their time and money would be more valued on that what is happening.
So i would think, if it does come to past, what in god's green earth to they do once no one goes to their new hardware? The value of gamepass is not nearly enough for it to make folks come in droves.
Sorry for my rant but i just have a feeling that this is gonna have negative consequences for the future of the brand and i do not like it one bit. Its short termed planning pretending to be long term investment .
Is Funny. Gears. Fable And more games is unreal Engine
Doubtful, I maybe pretty negative on generally the decisions about my favorite platform but I think Forza, Gears, and Halo stay on Xbox/PC only. Until they just go third party completely without console hardware.
Is God of War coming to the Series X? Good Lord, get a grip Microsoft and stop failing already. Figure yourselves out. I realize Microsoft is worth trillions and Sony is not, but the Xbox division is pathetic compared to Playstation. Perhaps Sony should manage the Xbox.
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@Romans12 Yeah, ok. Sony manage Xbox? That is funny. What a mess over there at that company. Just wait a couple years and look at the profit margins. Consoles sold is not the only metric to determine success.
@BacklogBrad pc maybe but there's is nothing to gain to put spiderman on xbox, never gonna happen I'm afraid, Sony aren't stupid, that deal would've included on ps forever, their studio, their engine, their money , that's just a pipe dream, unlike gears on ps , frag out 😁 they won't stop making spiderman movies no, but they can withdraw spiderman from the mcu.
@cburg he's right though, can't even compare xbox game division to sonys ,no matter how many studios xbox buy it clearly can't compete, microsoft knows this , took a while but they do , that's why all games are coming to ps
It's pretty simple, if flagship games get ported to competitor consoles, there is no longer trust in their own hardware and platform.
Problem is, that's already happened. Sea of Thieves was Xbox's very quiet white flag wave. It was the first "home grown" game purely built for Xbox to get booted over, with Grounded and Pentiment following. This means that any of Xbox's "first party" games are all likely to, and probably will, be ported over.
I dont mind Bethesda and Acti games still being released on other platforms, they SHOULD. First party releases are a very slippery slope however. And they've already started sliding down it.
I dont want to sound completely doom and gloom, I still play on Xbox. I just really don't think this is going to get better.
People are finally getting it.
F no!!! If thats the case tell sony to give us the last of us lol . They do that they will lose more fans. Me included will be next and I'll just game exclusively on pc and switch
@BacklogBrad
Sony have made it very clear they have no intention of developing their games for Xbox.
There is no financial incentive to do so at all as the market for full priced games on Xbox is very small in comparison and they most certainly would not want to scale the games down to work on a series S.
PC is a totally different market and Sony releasing some titles on PC a couple of years after launch will not cannibalise their sales at all.
MS gaming has been pretty clear up to this point - 'every screen is an Xbox' and they are clearly chasing the numbers they need to make proper profits. The test they did shows they can sell games on other platforms, and they clearly wont leave it at that - there will be many others.
I think many of you are correct, if they start releasing titles like Halo on Playstation, then the Xbox is dead, but it's already dead anywhere but the US and its trailing there too, so they are not exactly losing anything.
There will be another Xbox, but it will be a small PC with a custom version of the OS. Maybe, just maybe, that will be the best place to play games and could be the 'lounge machine' I've long wanted.
In the meantime, they will keep us guessing. It's quite clear from the word noodling we get from the suits, that if they have a specific business direction, they most definitely do not want to share it with us.
@Titntin sony had internal discussions already about making helldivers 2 for xbox. I doubt it ends there. The CEO flat out said we need to look at other platforms. They are clearly thinking about it already. They kicked open the door for developing for Nintendo. There are many rumors floating around about a Playstation pc app that would have cross entitlement which would translate to day 1 pc for all their games. Face it, playstation is trending towards being a multiplatform developer. I believe that long term there will will eventually be playstation games available on an xbox console. We will have to see if that is a native version on the Xbox store or through a sideloading of the Playstation store.
When will people realize that it's not console x versus console y anymore? When playstation sees xbox pass them in gaming revenue they will see that as losing.
(PC gaming is not different. It is a platform with gamers just like anything else. It has handhelds/consoles that compete directly with playstations plastic box)
There being no financial incentive on xbox is also false. The Show does very well on xbox. It is in the top played section for xbox pretty much all year.
@BacklogBrad thanks for coming back to me and expanding your viewpoint.
Do you have a source please on these 'internal discussions to bring Helldivers to Xbox'? There's not much slips by me in terms of gaming news, so it's a surprise to me that I missed that! Sure you are not confusing that with the petition?
The Lego Horizon game was agreed when Lego and Sony both bought stakes in Epic and I understand that it was a 'one of' agreement for that one game but its impossible to source accurate data on that - I only hear that from so called 'insider sources' I still have from my 20 years in the business. They told me the PS5 pro would release at £500 though, so I can't pretend they are always accurate, lol!
Until PC's easily fit under a telly with no mouse or keyboard and no windows to contend with, they will never contend for the bulk of the console business. I have a £4K rig and barely use it to game for these reasons, and I'm not alone. I make do with the docked switch , PS5 and Series X and dont miss PC gaming at all (but I don't use handhelds or I'd be all over them!)
I do disagree with your assessment, but until we come to see what's to pass neither of us are going to show we are correct on this, and we are just bleating hot air I like to do that though, so thanks for giving me a chance. Have a good day..
Edit - just to throw a different thought out there, I've not heard anyone here mention that Sony own 5.5% of Epic games. That's a percentage (v small though) of all those UE5 royalty fees coming to Sony indirectly, and I imagine that would annoy many...
@Titntin https://dotesports.com/helldivers-2/news/helldivers-2-devs-reportedly-hold-early-talks-around-bringing-democracy-to-xbox
It is coming from an xbox guy but he has accurately leaked a bunch of playstation stuff in the past so his sony sources are probably legit.
Even if they came to the conclusion not to bring it to xbox, it shows that the door is not firmly closed on the idea. They have discussions about it.
And MLB the show has been a major success on xbox even if they are forced to make it for xbox in that case.
@BacklogBrad
Thank you. An rumour from two Xbox guys from back in april stating very very early talks? I guess we can agree to have different interpretations of that legitimacy, and I certainly wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it on Xbox. Which is a big shame as its a fantastic game and I'd be happy to see Xbox players enjoying it - it's the kind of title I'm sure many Xbox gamers would enjoy. Even I played it for a few months and I never play online shooters normally...
@Titntin very early talks that don't materialize is still different than we will never ever develop a game for xbox period. The door is open.
I think it comes down to route A with every game being exclusive makes a certain amount of money. Route B with some or all games going to every platform makes a certain amount of money. I believe route B would always equal more money.
I think it will ultimately come down to the Sony executives (people above playstation leaders). When they see xbox gaming makes more money than playstation, I doubt they will see the console sales figures as the "winning" metric.
@BacklogBrad 'The door is open'
Only if you believe unsubstantiated rumours on Xbox Era podcast - certainly not a place I would choose to get unbiased accurate news. The door is absolutely not open and you have no evidence except clickbait hearsay to say differently.
As for how the business will develop for Sony and Xbox and Ninty, only time will tell and I'll be happy to watch it unfold no matter what happens. As long as I get great games, I've never cared what machine its on. My current preference for PS is mainly cause my wife can't stand or use Xbox controllers. They are not my fave either, but I'm happy enough to game on them!
Hopefully we will still be here posting in a few years and you can say ' I told you so!' as you play God of War on an Xbox
@Ken_Kaniff I agree 100%. I just hope Microsoft having games now & the prospect of a handheld helps Xbox's fortune next gen.
@Titntin aye!!! I can see it now. If Xbox survives the next gen? It will give Sony the excuse to remaster all there games again for there Xbox debut 😅😅😅.
@BacklogBrad id play Helldivers 2 to death if it came to Xbox. As love it on my PS5. Got Starship Troopers on pre order for Xbox also 👍
@Titntin it is from a person known to have reliable sources within Playstation. A person that has a very good track record of accurately leaking playstation news. That is way more evidence than assuming that they never discussed it.
@BacklogBrad Well I'm not going to argue semantics with you at this point. If you believe that this is what 'evidence', is then we have a very different definition of that word. Having worked for Sony, and Xbox, and many other game studios, I too have sources, but I wouldn't treat anything I hear on the rumour mill as 'evidence'.
I've seen industry leakers with a good track record advise that every game from Xbox is hitting PS, but that's hardly evidence either.
That's OK - we are only having a conversation and we don't need to agree and I certainly don't. I've enjoyed our conversation though, so lets enjoy our games and see what unfolds for the future. Have a great day mate...
@MSX At this point I deeply regret investing so much on the xbox library, I'm getting a Playstation 5 slim, imagine the new FC 25 digital is strictly online only on the Xbox, just imagine I must connect to the internet to play a game I bought. Not everybody have internet always for God sake, I'm from Nigeria and i live in Nigeria
At this point I deeply regret investing so much on the xbox library, I'm getting a Playstation 5 slim, imagine the new FC 25 digital is strictly online only on the Xbox, just imagine I must connect to the internet to play a game I bought. Not everybody have internet always for God sake, I'm from Nigeria and i live in Nigeria. I hate what Xbox stands for at the moment, what a shame and embarrassment of a console . Let me just get a playstation t slim and have my peace of mind, rubbish and selfish company who doesn't have their fans at heart
@Titntin unfortunately there isn't a C-Span for sony meetings so all we have to go off of is people in the know anonymously telling people to report on it.
There is also this indirect evidence that it was at least discussed as a possibility.
Arrowhead Game Studios' CEO Johan Pilestedt said during an interview with Gamefile that he's "not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on Xbox."
https://mashable.com/article/helldiver-on-xbox-news-rumors-possible-release
Typical XB reporting. You get a whole video about Halo switching to UE5 and the studio rename, and instead of the graphics, and other aspects of the video all people talk about is whether the game is going to PS5.
Halo going to PS5 would do wonders for Halo and the opposite for the console.
Seems likely to happen, but part of me hopes not, it really will be the death blow for the Xbox console and I like the console, I have a library I've invested in I hope will be available on future consoles, not consigned to earlier hardware.
@CharlieXLE Third world problems....I've had a great Internet connection since 1994 so all my devices have had a permanent Internet connection and are always connected.
You do you.
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