It's really a misleading comparison - the PC market is vastly different to console.
Some PC gamers can perhaps quite rightly say "Consoles are pointless as my set up outperforms them easily" but those who go console for their gaming needs do it because they want to pay one affordable price for all their gaming needs, different type of consumer.
Optimisation for the original Xbox One would be insanely difficult no?
Hard to ignore that install base, but I think it's one of those that is better off skipping last gen, those users will upgrade eventually when stock is more widely available
@Reverandjames Different ball game. Sony purchased movie and tv rights from Disney.
Unless Microsoft have done the same with Indy. Then Disney will control which platforms the the game appears on if that agreement was before the buyout was completed.
Wouldnt surprise me if Microsoft did throw money at Disney however...
I think it was a good decision for Nintendo not to bite same as a few here.
Would have been a good chance to shift focus perhaps but I honestly think the console gaming market has benefitted from having three main players as opposed to two.
In that awkward problem that shouldnt be a problem.
Not bought a new game this year until now. Now I have a Series X, PS5 and roughly 30 odd games if I count my game pass stuff. Struggling to decide what to play and having the old procrastination haha.
Leaning possibly towards the below
Yakuza Like a Dragon - Series X Assasins Creed Valhalla - PS5
This makes sense for them but I hope its to supplement and not instead of, organically growing their own first party studios. Good for the long term and for job creation.
My hunch is this is to supplement and because organically growing takes time. They need to do more like The Initiative in the long term.
@NEStalgia Xbox always showed the game picture in background. On the PS5 UI reveal it showed actually inside the game in the background. Its that bit I thought would be jarring not in 4k. Sorry for confusion!
I think the PS5 UI needs to be 4k. The Series X does not/can afford not to.
The hints/tips function in the new PS5 UI pulls footage direct from gameplay and displays the current game in the background. It would be jarring if that did not display at 4k.
I think it would be a waste of resources for the Xbox to do it unless it offered the same function. As there is no way Xbox gamers would feel a need to bring up the UI in game that often other than switching between games.
Digital Foundrys job to pick that stuff up and talk about it. But kind of pointless.
I'm going to uh.... take the neutral view. My take.
Pre-orders didn't spring out of nowhere. They announced they would be going live the next day, retailers jumped the gun at midnight that night, unfortunately.
As for cross-gen games, Sony have backtracked one way, Microsoft have gone the other way and not doing cross-gen now. All rather odd.
third parties also increasing prices. I expect MS to do the same outside of Game Pass, inflation and all that
Overall I did find the presentation pretty poor - FFXVI had leaked anyway.
I think the marketing from Sony's side has been bloody awful frankly, I wouldn't say arrogant is the right word, but not proactive enough and far too much mixed messaging.
Overall, best judged when both have launched to be honest. MS have been more transparent and clear but I'd rather see the lay of the land post-launch before I judge either of them.
If anyone is laughing now, it's probably Nintendo. Not much first party on the horizon and still selling like hotcakes.
@TimG13 Phil made such a massive deal about throwing money at a dev and locking other consumers out being "bad for business" that one would blow up in their face massively. Lol.
I love what they are doing but oh the leaks have been terrible this year. All the game releases that have been leaked early because someone accidentally uploaded to MS Store.
Trouble with lockdowns people have too much time and go digging for sources 🤣
I might plump for Series X over S simply because my LG CX and TV Stand are dark and the Series S may look out of place (have no choice with PS5 colour sadly but at least it matches the VR headset so doesnt look completely out of place ).
Hardware-wise I dont care which one as long as I get to play a new Fable @KelticDevil you get the hype there!
I have a ton of Game Pass Ultimate months stacked so All Access not worth it for me. Gut says pay upfront and get an X but might take the week to weigh them both up.
@TheNewButler The biggest problem with credit for gadgets is the inherent stupidity of a lot of people who take out credit for one.
Throwing so much marketing behind a credit line is even worse.
I get you. For sensible people getting credit and paying off on time and in full is a good thing. But most of the people who get credit are doing it because they cant afford the machine. Very dangerous game.
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Re: Review: The Medium - A Stunning Xbox Series X Showpiece, Let Down By Uninspired Gameplay
Ultimately boils down to
After an engaging story/horror experience - 8 or 9/10
After something original on the gameplay front - 5 or 6/10
I'm the former thankfully, but sounds like a love it or hate it kinda situation.
Ironically exactly like their last game was.
Re: YouTuber Attempts To Build $500 Gaming PC To Beat Xbox Series X
It's really a misleading comparison - the PC market is vastly different to console.
Some PC gamers can perhaps quite rightly say "Consoles are pointless as my set up outperforms them easily" but those who go console for their gaming needs do it because they want to pay one affordable price for all their gaming needs, different type of consumer.
Re: Sorry, Resident Evil Village's Demo Is PlayStation Exclusive For Now
@UltimateOtaku91 next gen patch for Yakuza 7 too.
All the companies are at it lol.
Re: Sorry, Resident Evil Village's Demo Is PlayStation Exclusive For Now
They have a marketing deal for the game likely part of that rather than paying just for the demo lol
Re: Hitman 3's Console Version Looks Best On Xbox Series X, Confirms Report
Digital Foundry do amazing work but the whole resolution/fps argument starts to bore me a bit. Lol.
2160p vs 1800p is maybe noticeable if you look hard enough. But I just care how games play. Maybe im getting old.....
Was like the whole Xbox 360 at 900p vs PS3 at 1080p on some games argument. Ultimately who cared as long as the games played well?
#oldfashionedgameroverhere
Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator Dev 'Won't Close The Door' On Xbox One Version
Optimisation for the original Xbox One would be insanely difficult no?
Hard to ignore that install base, but I think it's one of those that is better off skipping last gen, those users will upgrade eventually when stock is more widely available
Re: Microsoft Reportedly Seeking To Acquire 'Big Names' For Future Buyouts
@FragRed I can't ever see Microsoft doing a hostile takeover, but Amazon/Google/Facebook I can absolutely see them having a go at Ubi to do that.
Watch this space.
Re: Microsoft Reportedly Seeking To Acquire 'Big Names' For Future Buyouts
If they are going to make further acquisitions, I think this should be smaller studios that they can help to nurture.
Blooper Team, Moon Studios for example would be excellent acquisitions.
Re: Video: Ninja Theory Discusses The Art Process Behind Project: Mara
From what they are describing this could be Silent Hill 4: The Room, done with more detail and confined to one space.
If they nail that feeling of isolation, this could be an excellent game.
Not gonna lie as a horror game fan my hype is through the roof on this, I need to temper it a bit
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (Jan 16th)
PS5 - Mafia Definitive Edition having watched Goodfellas in 4k last night in the mood!
Series X - bouncing between Forza Horizon 4 and Twin Mirror
Switch - Mario Galaxy trying to finish before 3D World hits.
Re: Poll: Will Bethesda's Indiana Jones Game Be An Xbox Exclusive?
I dont think any games announced before the acquisition has fully gone through will be exclusive sadly.
Re: Bethesda Announces Indiana Jones Game With Wolfenstein Dev
@Reverandjames Different ball game. Sony purchased movie and tv rights from Disney.
Unless Microsoft have done the same with Indy. Then Disney will control which platforms the the game appears on if that agreement was before the buyout was completed.
Wouldnt surprise me if Microsoft did throw money at Disney however...
Re: Nintendo 'Laughed Their Asses Off' At Xbox Acquisition Attempt In 2000
I think it was a good decision for Nintendo not to bite same as a few here.
Would have been a good chance to shift focus perhaps but I honestly think the console gaming market has benefitted from having three main players as opposed to two.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (Jan 2nd)
Series X - Tell me Why and Twin Mirror. Dontnod fix at the mo
PS5 - Assasins Creed Valhalla
Switch - Mario all stars. Mario 64 specifically. Nostalgia ftw.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (Nov 28th)
I......have absolutely no idea.
In that awkward problem that shouldnt be a problem.
Not bought a new game this year until now. Now I have a Series X, PS5 and roughly 30 odd games if I count my game pass stuff. Struggling to decide what to play and having the old procrastination haha.
Leaning possibly towards the below
Yakuza Like a Dragon - Series X
Assasins Creed Valhalla - PS5
Re: Can You Believe It? Halo 2 Is Now 16 Years Old
I still remember raging at the abrupt ending 🤣
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (Nov 14th)
I have gone to town. My One S packed in around 9 months ago. Just got my Series X and 6 months of Ultimate. Catching up on what I have missed.
This weekend the below
Battletoads
Dead Space Trilogy never played it.
Tell me Why
Forza Horizon 4
Alan Wake
Grounded
Re: Yes, Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Is Planning To Get A PlayStation 5
@themightyant this is nothing new hes an avid gamer and usually if im not mistaken always games on all three.
So wont quieten the fanboys sadly. Magicing up console wars is all that gets them through their day.
The "traditional" console war died in the early 90s with the mega drive vs snes imo.
These days its just conjoured up by social media and trolls unfortunately.
Re: Phil Spencer Again Confirms Xbox Is Looking To Acquire More Studios
This makes sense for them but I hope its to supplement and not instead of, organically growing their own first party studios. Good for the long term and for job creation.
My hunch is this is to supplement and because organically growing takes time. They need to do more like The Initiative in the long term.
Re: The Best 4K TVs For Xbox Series X
Couldnt recommend the CX more if you have the budget for it. Cracking TV.
Re: Xbox Fans Really Aren't Happy About Call Of Duty's 'Sony Advantages'
@IronMan30 Precisely. The next gen enhancements for the new Yakuza - time limited to Xbox.
They are all at it whether we like it or not. Yay capitalism.
Re: Roundup: Xbox Series X|S Review Impressions
@KelticDevil
Read my second paragraph. I was agreeing with you. Lol.
You know me from previous threads I always game on both.
But IGN is and always will be, incompetent.
Re: Roundup: Xbox Series X|S Review Impressions
@KelticDevil It has 5 exclusives at launch. Out of all of them only one is appealing like. But its a fair few.
IGN are incompetent and are comparing on a software numbers game rather than the actual hardware. Standard IGN.
Re: Roundup: Xbox Series X|S Review Impressions
@Sol4ris he is basing it off comments from other threads.
Re: Reminder: You Don't Need To Buy An HDMI 2.1 Cable For Xbox Series X
Glad both consoles are having it. Spending enough as it is!
Re: Xbox Boss Suggests PS5 Represents A Heavy Financial Investment
Experience has taught me never to write Sony off.
Glad I am fortunate enough to be getting both.
Re: Video: Watch Dogs: Legion's Ray Tracing Looks Great On Xbox Series X
@NEStalgia my takeaway from the reviews - "worth a buy but not on current gen"
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Was Just As Shocked By Minecraft Steve's Smash Bros. Win Screen
Absolutely priceless.
Re: Video: Here's 13 Minutes Of Horror-Adventure Scorn Running On Xbox Series X
Day one for me horror my favourite genre and had a lucky escape not picking up Amnesia Rebirth.
Re: Talking Point: What Is The Worst Xbox Game You've Ever Played?
Sonic 06 for me. How Sega greenlighted that was beyond me.
Re: The Xbox Series X UI Might Not Render At 4K, But Does It Matter?
@NEStalgia Xbox always showed the game picture in background. On the PS5 UI reveal it showed actually inside the game in the background. Its that bit I thought would be jarring not in 4k. Sorry for confusion!
Re: The Xbox Series X UI Might Not Render At 4K, But Does It Matter?
I think the PS5 UI needs to be 4k. The Series X does not/can afford not to.
The hints/tips function in the new PS5 UI pulls footage direct from gameplay and displays the current game in the background. It would be jarring if that did not display at 4k.
I think it would be a waste of resources for the Xbox to do it unless it offered the same function. As there is no way Xbox gamers would feel a need to bring up the UI in game that often other than switching between games.
Digital Foundrys job to pick that stuff up and talk about it. But kind of pointless.
Re: Report: GameStop To Share In Digital Revenues For Every Xbox It Sells
@NEStalgia I agree, worrying trend and hope it doesn't go much further than a basic partnership.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Like To See A Smash Bros Style Game On Xbox?
I do not think it would work. For the same reason Playstation All Stars didn't.
Microsoft does not have enough of those iconic characters that would fit into a cartoony-like arcade fighter. Sony doesnt either.
Nintendo does.
If Microsoft or Sony were to do a Soul Calibur or Tekken-like game with their famous faces. That may work.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Devs Will Reportedly Be Required To Crunch Ahead Of Release
I work in Healthcare recruitment for an agency. Unfortunately in the middle of a pandemic needless to say crunching is an understatement.
Its not nice to see but with tight deadlines its sadly inevitable.
Lets hope post release the staff get some much needed time off.
Re: Microsoft Explains Why The Xbox Series Expansion Card Is So Expensive
@Tasuki the money Seagate are probably paying MS for the licensing outweighs that concern I think.
Re: Talking Point: Have You Been Able To Pre-Order An Xbox Series X|S?
Preordered the X from Amazon. Got lucky and woke up 5 mins before it went on as alarm didnt go off 🤣
Re: Guide: Xbox Series X & S Pre-Orders: Where To Buy The New Consoles
@carlos82 I hear ya. Thankfully no birthdays my end between now and Christmas so just about justified in.
If all you want is to be able to play the games on Game Pass Series S will do a fantastic job anyways.
Re: Guide: Xbox Series X & S Pre-Orders: Where To Buy The New Consoles
Got mine on Amazon, was going for PS5/XSS but made an 11th hour decision at 8am so PS5/XSX for me now.
Re: Poll: Has The Bethesda News Convinced You To Pre-Order An Xbox Series S/X?
Getting both here so win-win as far as im concerned, the more competition Sony has the more it will have to react sooner or later, gamers win.
Re: Reaction: Sony Just Boosted The Value Of Xbox Game Pass Even Further
@Tharsman I want Fable now lol.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Model Wouldn't Make Financial Sense For PS5, Says CEO Jim Ryan
Bottom line. Sony can't afford to do it.
Re: Reaction: Sony Just Boosted The Value Of Xbox Game Pass Even Further
I'm going to uh.... take the neutral view. My take.
Overall, best judged when both have launched to be honest. MS have been more transparent and clear but I'd rather see the lay of the land post-launch before I judge either of them.
If anyone is laughing now, it's probably Nintendo. Not much first party on the horizon and still selling like hotcakes.
Re: Rumour: Microsoft Spending 'A Lot Of Money' On Something Xbox Related, Not An Acquisition
@TimG13 Phil made such a massive deal about throwing money at a dev and locking other consumers out being "bad for business" that one would blow up in their face massively. Lol.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Is Making Next-Gen Gaming More Accessible Than Ever
My biggest dilemma is whether to go with Series X, Series S or Xcloud 🤣 cant complain about having choice but damn....
Nothing software wise grabbing me at the minute on Xbox or PS5 but never does at launch.
Re: Here's Another Look At Quick Resume On The Xbox Series S
@FraserG Forgiven. I bet its been your busiest week in a while!
Re: Phil Spencer Confirms Xbox Series S Reveal Was Supposed To Be Next Week
I love what they are doing but oh the leaks have been terrible this year. All the game releases that have been leaked early because someone accidentally uploaded to MS Store.
Trouble with lockdowns people have too much time and go digging for sources 🤣
Re: The Xbox Series X Launches November 10th For £449 / $499
@NEStalgia These days positive payments on phone contracts are reported on credit files. Mine is on there.
I rent at the moment and there is a way of getting those reported too now.
But I get what you mean credit scores are so volatile one hard search can damage for a few months.
I think its a fair deal what they are offering. But I would be a little meh if it was pushed as a competitive advantage.
Re: The Xbox Series X Launches November 10th For £449 / $499
I might plump for Series X over S simply because my LG CX and TV Stand are dark and the Series S may look out of place (have no choice with PS5 colour sadly but at least it matches the VR headset so doesnt look completely out of place ).
Hardware-wise I dont care which one as long as I get to play a new Fable @KelticDevil you get the hype there!
I have a ton of Game Pass Ultimate months stacked so All Access not worth it for me. Gut says pay upfront and get an X but might take the week to weigh them both up.
Re: The Xbox Series X Launches November 10th For £449 / $499
@TheNewButler The biggest problem with credit for gadgets is the inherent stupidity of a lot of people who take out credit for one.
Throwing so much marketing behind a credit line is even worse.
I get you. For sensible people getting credit and paying off on time and in full is a good thing. But most of the people who get credit are doing it because they cant afford the machine. Very dangerous game.