Its not really Sony putting it on Game Pass. Its MLB wanting it on there and making that happen.
That said it will rile Sony up. They will have to respond soon. They could put it on PS Now but that will set a precedent quicker than they would like I'd imagine.
Seeing far too much sensitivity about a poll...standard.
Phil has been a game changer for the brand. They had a lot of work to do to repair some bad PR after the Xbox One launch. Was a genius move putting him charge done a cracking job and now the brand is fighting on all cylinders again.
@LtSarge Mafia Definitive Edition? Cracking game that. Was so dissapointed with the Mafia 2 remaster and all the glitches nearly put me off going for Mafia 1 but Hangar 13 nailed it.
@mousieone @LtSarge @Medic_Alert I think we can all agree every big tech company wants a stranglehold on their markets these days and it is a general concern. MS is no exception to that. I do think the Bethesda purchase does some good though. They needed to increase their pool of first party studios and got it in one go. Sony do a similar thing but slowly acquiring smaller studios as its more financially viable to do that for them, but both working to the same ends.
My take with Discord specifically though. I dont think its a move to take over the messaging space. Rather, they are in need of a platform that suits the gaming space.
Skype and Teams although large brands are very business-centric and tailored towards the corporate office environment now.
Discord sits away from that and more in the gaming and general entertainment community space.
I think it would be a good and relevant acquisition. I just dont think Discord necessarily need it. I think going public on the stock exchange is better for them the interest from large investors would be immense.
Live Gold will be phased out eventually. MS will be the first of the three to make the move back to free multiplayer.
But they will wait until the last minute timing wise to do it when Game Pass peaks enough they can absorb the capital hit of not having live subscriptions anymore.
I think its close. But there are still a fair few Xbox Gamers subscribed to live and not Game Pass.
@themightyant wasnt a fan of Infinite as much as first two Bioshocks but love the series. Same with Dishonored just playing through Dishonored 2 at the mo.
@TrueAssassin86x Shu and Phil always have the banter going on and play similar games. Cerny an avid gamer also. Even Ken "always miserable" Kuteragi back in the day gamed on all 3.
I get where you were going with that though. Jim Ryan just doesnt act like he bothers playing what he sells. Lol.
@BlueOcean If you can find a comment in my comment history where I was condescending personally to you and quote it. I will apologise in this thread (PM function not a thing yet but should be maybe?) But ill be surprised if its there. You didnt like me posting something against a pro-Xbox view. Itll get toxic too quick that I dont want any part of it..
On topic. Like any acquisition its about one thing and one thing alone and that is making money. And lots of it.
Microsoft didnt spend $7.5bil to get good press or please some forum users. Its an investment and shareholders will want a return.
Personally - I think that return would be maximised with existing IPs ie Doom, ES, maybe Wolfenstein being across all platforms. But there absolutely should be an incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem from this deal and that is where new IP being exclusive will come into it..
One quote from a press event isnt enough to change my view there. But as an Xbox owner myself if I am proved wrong I will still get to enjoy those games and that is what matters.
@BlueOcean "You know you are wrong" isnt objective either.
I have always given a neutral view. I may be proved wrong but I think they will make a ton of money keeping known IPs multiplat. And they are not a charity after all. Lets see in a year or two down the line.
As for "for once" if you are implying nothing I say is ever objective or realistic. Prove it please.
Done with being attacked for posting simple opinions. Its what other sites do. Hoped it would stay away from here.
@Tharsman time will tell. Could be as you said in previous post. Existing games already released get support. Anything else is exclusive.
Could be "legacy" meaning franchises that have released on other platforms will still do so a la Elder Scrolls, Doom etc. Any future new IPs will release only on platforms that have Game Pass.
I own all 3 I dont mind either scenario I just dont think the presentation made it any clearer.
@BlueOcean Franchises that make money will be multiplat. New IPs like Starfield etc will not.
As much as a big win every Xbox fan says it is. Elder Scrolls and Fallout for example make a lot of money. MS make more by letting them go multiplat than ringfencing them to a few platforms hence they dont do that with Minecraft.
Editors on Pushsquare actually trying to be realistic with the userbase. Is Pushscariers really the way you wanna go with that?
Some will certainly be exclusive but I dont see any games announced before the acquisition being exclusive like Starfield etc. Anything well into development will go multiplat.
License holders will have a massive say there too. If Indy game already in development no way Disney will let that not be multiplat unless MS pay up money for some some separate rights to the license as Sony did with Spiderman.
I definitely can see anything unannounced before the approval this week staying exclusive to the Xbox platform and services.
@Reyren when Fable was Project Ego one of Peter Molyneux's biggest selling points of the game was things like "see a mountain in the distance you can walk to it" he visioned it as an open world experience which back in that era would have been massive. Instead it was more of a hub world and it didnt sit well with many.
Peter Molyneux was one of those. More of a thinker than practical. He had the passion in bucketloads just didnt have the practicality to make his ideas work.
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 17th)
PS5 - Assasins Creed Valhalla and trying to finish Astro
Series X - more FH4 and Yakuza 7
Switch - Mario 3D world
Re: Several Parties Interested In Buying Square Enix, According To Report
I could see Apple and Epic Games getting in the mix also.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Now Has Amazon Alexa Support In The US
Not for me. My 6 year old son is getting a bit too clever. My SSD would be full by the time I got home.
Re: Video: EA Reveals Side-By-Side Comparison For The Mass Effect Remaster Trilogy
@Generik its EA. By their standards this is modern standards.
Re: Rumour: Is The Switch On Phil Spencer's Shelf Teasing An Xbox Collab With Nintendo?
@Bmartin001 agree. Alot of ambitious theories doing the rounds but likely related to smash bros.
Re: Video: EA Reveals Side-By-Side Comparison For The Mass Effect Remaster Trilogy
I am waiting for an EA play day 1 announcement but wont happen now 🤣 looking forward to it though.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 10th)
PS5 - Crash 4 and Dirt 5
Series X - Yakuza 7 and more Forza Horizon 4
Switch - Mario 3D World
Re: Here Are The Full Patch Notes For Halo: MCC's Season 6 Update
55GB for an update. Oh dear. Might have to get that Seagate drive after all running low on space 🤣
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 3rd)
Series X - more Forza Horizon 4 and Yakuza Like a Dragon
PS5 - Tony Hawk, Crash 4 and Assassins Creed Valhalla
Switch - Mario 3D World. Not got round to the Bowsers Fury side yet might give it a bash this weekend.
Re: Incredibly, Sony Is Bringing MLB The Show 21 To Xbox Game Pass
Its not really Sony putting it on Game Pass. Its MLB wanting it on there and making that happen.
That said it will rile Sony up. They will have to respond soon. They could put it on PS Now but that will set a precedent quicker than they would like I'd imagine.
Re: Phil Spencer Celebrates Seven Years As The Head Of Xbox
Seeing far too much sensitivity about a poll...standard.
Phil has been a game changer for the brand. They had a lot of work to do to repair some bad PR after the Xbox One launch. Was a genius move putting him charge done a cracking job and now the brand is fighting on all cylinders again.
Re: Video: Here's A Taste Of Google Stadia Running On An Xbox Series X
Stadia is dead in the water.
Agree with previous commenters though. The workaround is great for accessing PC game libraries.
Re: Bang & Olufsen's New Xbox Wireless Headphones Cost A Whopping $500
One for the audiophiles I think. For the rest of us great alternatives that are much more affordable.
Not a knock on them though. There is a hardcore market there for them. Great they are offering a product for that crowd.
Re: Following Wreckfest's Free Xbox Series X Patch, It's Now Getting A $10 Upgrade On PS5
Then you have Activision charging for an upgrade to Tony Hawk on both consoles. But Crash upgrade was free.
Its all one big mess and companies almost cherry picking when to charge and where.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 27th)
For me similar to last week tbh
Series X - more Forza Horizon 4. Finally trying out Fortune Island and Lego Champions DLC
PS5 - checking out Tony Hawk upgrade and more Crash 4
Switch - Mario 3D world. Mopping up last stars/stamps to unlock the special world again
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 27th)
@LtSarge Mafia Definitive Edition? Cracking game that. Was so dissapointed with the Mafia 2 remaster and all the glitches nearly put me off going for Mafia 1 but Hangar 13 nailed it.
Re: Biomutant's Latest Trailer Boasts Over The Top Combat And Colourful Visuals
To an extent forgot this game still existed haha. But looks like a riot.
Re: You Can Play The Entire Yakuza Series On Xbox From Today, And Here's Why You Should
Through college, uni and after I have replayed all the games so many times cant recommend this series enough.
Credit goes to the team behind Shenmue for me though. I got into the first game as a substitute for Shenmue after the 2nd game. Not looked back since.
Re: PSA: If You Bought The Disc, You Can't Upgrade Tony Hawk On Xbox Series X
This will get enough backlash if its not a technical issue they will probably reverse it.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Chapter One Conjures Up Its First Gameplay Trailer
Cant wait for this one love the Sherlock games.
Re: Microsoft Reportedly In Talks To Acquire Discord For Over $10 Billion
@mousieone @LtSarge @Medic_Alert I think we can all agree every big tech company wants a stranglehold on their markets these days and it is a general concern. MS is no exception to that. I do think the Bethesda purchase does some good though. They needed to increase their pool of first party studios and got it in one go. Sony do a similar thing but slowly acquiring smaller studios as its more financially viable to do that for them, but both working to the same ends.
My take with Discord specifically though. I dont think its a move to take over the messaging space. Rather, they are in need of a platform that suits the gaming space.
Skype and Teams although large brands are very business-centric and tailored towards the corporate office environment now.
Discord sits away from that and more in the gaming and general entertainment community space.
I think it would be a good and relevant acquisition. I just dont think Discord necessarily need it. I think going public on the stock exchange is better for them the interest from large investors would be immense.
Re: Xbox Survey Asks If Users Would Use Bitcoin As A Payment Method
Personally - I think Bitcoin will either crash or become heavily regulated. Either outcome will destroy its value.
Id stay away from using it for everyday transactions.
Re: Microsoft Explains Why Xbox Live Is Now Being Referred To As 'Xbox Network'
Live Gold will be phased out eventually. MS will be the first of the three to make the move back to free multiplayer.
But they will wait until the last minute timing wise to do it when Game Pass peaks enough they can absorb the capital hit of not having live subscriptions anymore.
I think its close. But there are still a fair few Xbox Gamers subscribed to live and not Game Pass.
The rebrand is just one step towards it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
@everynowandben sound advice cheers. Love the pirate stuff but co op games not my cup of tea, unfortunately.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
@GunValkyrie thought it may be not a game that could be tackled solo sadly.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
Anyone know what Sea of Thieves is like single player? Curious to check it out but I am very much a solo gamer.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (March 20th)
Ps5 - Crash Ps5 and a spot of GoT. Waiting for Tony Hawk upgrade next week!
XSX - Continuing The Medium and more Forza Horizon 4
Switch - Mario 3D world.
Stacked weekend!
Re: Sadly, Gotham Knights Has Been Delayed Until 2022
Covid still impacting development timelines. To be expected.
Re: Thanks To Smart Delivery, Marvel's Avengers Is A Much Easier Upgrade On Xbox Than PS5
The PS5 upgrade system desperately needs looking at.
That said I dont think its going to have much impact on sales so I cant see them being in any rush.
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
@themightyant would love a third Dishonored
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
@themightyant wasnt a fan of Infinite as much as first two Bioshocks but love the series. Same with Dishonored just playing through Dishonored 2 at the mo.
Re: FPS Boost Brings Prey 'Close To Remaster Territory' On Xbox Series X, Reveals Analysis
Never played Prey might give it a bash with this update. Any good?
Re: Random: Yes, Phil Spencer Does Stream Xbox Games While Waiting For Planes
Ive got to go there..... who on earth designed Greenbergs facemask? I cant unsee that 🤣
Re: Random: Yes, Phil Spencer Does Stream Xbox Games While Waiting For Planes
@TrueAssassin86x Shu and Phil always have the banter going on and play similar games. Cerny an avid gamer also. Even Ken "always miserable" Kuteragi back in the day gamed on all 3.
I get where you were going with that though. Jim Ryan just doesnt act like he bothers playing what he sells. Lol.
Re: Wreckfest Receives Exclusive 4K, 60FPS Upgrade For Xbox Series X
Hmm downloaded it and not showing under optimised for Series X/S on dashboard. Thought I was going mad then read this about Series S exclusion.
Odd that I am sure its capable of pulling off 4k at 60 fps on a racer.
Re: Xbox Virtual Reality Reference Is A 'Localisation Bug', Says Microsoft
"At this time" famous last words. They will dip in sooner or later even if they partner with a third party.
VR not the most mainstream of markets but there is still profit to be had.
Re: Roundup: Here's What Critics Are Saying About The Xbox Wireless Headset
If I was too hook this up via my LG CX Bluetooth rather than my Xbox could I use on my PS5 and Series X?
Re: Reaction: Xbox Might Just Be In Its Strongest Position Ever Right Now
Just bring on Fable.
Re: Sorry, You Won't Be Able To Dual Wield Weapons In Halo Infinite
Dual wielding weapons was awesome in Timesplitters. Feels out of place in Halo glad they are leaving it out.
Re: Soapbox: Now That It's On Xbox Game Pass, Please Try The Evil Within
I do hope MS let Tango Gameworks have another crack at a horror game if not Evil Within 3, something else.
Need to keep the genre alive and kicking with the best working on it and Mikami is one of them.
Re: Xbox Game Pass Is Teasing A ‘Mysterious’ Game Coming To The Service
Money on Outriders
Re: Xbox Will Deliver Exclusive Bethesda Games 'Where Game Pass Exists'
@BlueOcean If you can find a comment in my comment history where I was condescending personally to you and quote it. I will apologise in this thread (PM function not a thing yet but should be maybe?) But ill be surprised if its there. You didnt like me posting something against a pro-Xbox view. Itll get toxic too quick that I dont want any part of it..
On topic. Like any acquisition its about one thing and one thing alone and that is making money. And lots of it.
Microsoft didnt spend $7.5bil to get good press or please some forum users. Its an investment and shareholders will want a return.
Personally - I think that return would be maximised with existing IPs ie Doom, ES, maybe Wolfenstein being across all platforms. But there absolutely should be an incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem from this deal and that is where new IP being exclusive will come into it..
One quote from a press event isnt enough to change my view there. But as an Xbox owner myself if I am proved wrong I will still get to enjoy those games and that is what matters.
Re: Xbox Will Deliver Exclusive Bethesda Games 'Where Game Pass Exists'
@BlueOcean "You know you are wrong" isnt objective either.
I have always given a neutral view. I may be proved wrong but I think they will make a ton of money keeping known IPs multiplat. And they are not a charity after all. Lets see in a year or two down the line.
As for "for once" if you are implying nothing I say is ever objective or realistic. Prove it please.
Done with being attacked for posting simple opinions. Its what other sites do. Hoped it would stay away from here.
Re: Xbox Will Deliver Exclusive Bethesda Games 'Where Game Pass Exists'
@Tharsman time will tell. Could be as you said in previous post. Existing games already released get support. Anything else is exclusive.
Could be "legacy" meaning franchises that have released on other platforms will still do so a la Elder Scrolls, Doom etc. Any future new IPs will release only on platforms that have Game Pass.
I own all 3 I dont mind either scenario I just dont think the presentation made it any clearer.
Re: Xbox Will Deliver Exclusive Bethesda Games 'Where Game Pass Exists'
@BlueOcean Franchises that make money will be multiplat. New IPs like Starfield etc will not.
As much as a big win every Xbox fan says it is. Elder Scrolls and Fallout for example make a lot of money. MS make more by letting them go multiplat than ringfencing them to a few platforms hence they dont do that with Minecraft.
Editors on Pushsquare actually trying to be realistic with the userbase. Is Pushscariers really the way you wanna go with that?
Re: God Of War Producer Joins The Initiative's Perfect Dark Team
Ohhh fanboyism is getting rife here. I dont like it dont want this place going down the road of other sites!
Its not an MS win over Sony. Its a dev making a career change. Enough searches on Linkedin reveal some significant switches between devs/publishers.
Good to see The Initiative getting further talent though. I just hope the new Perfect Dark doesnt get overhyped. This dev team need a good start.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think About Certain Bethesda Games Being Xbox Exclusives?
Some will certainly be exclusive but I dont see any games announced before the acquisition being exclusive like Starfield etc. Anything well into development will go multiplat.
License holders will have a massive say there too. If Indy game already in development no way Disney will let that not be multiplat unless MS pay up money for some some separate rights to the license as Sony did with Spiderman.
I definitely can see anything unannounced before the approval this week staying exclusive to the Xbox platform and services.
Re: Ori Director Slams Fable And Cyberpunk 2077 Creators, Says They're 'Snake Oil Salesmen'
@Reyren when Fable was Project Ego one of Peter Molyneux's biggest selling points of the game was things like "see a mountain in the distance you can walk to it" he visioned it as an open world experience which back in that era would have been massive. Instead it was more of a hub world and it didnt sit well with many.
Re: Ori Director Slams Fable And Cyberpunk 2077 Creators, Says They're 'Snake Oil Salesmen'
Peter Molyneux was one of those. More of a thinker than practical. He had the passion in bucketloads just didnt have the practicality to make his ideas work.
Comparing him to a snake oil salesman? Harsh.
Re: Review: The Medium - A Stunning Xbox Series X Showpiece, Let Down By Uninspired Gameplay
How on earth did we get from digesting a game review to politics.
Only in gaming eh 🤣