@mousieone I cant say the fanboys really want to hear it but you are spot on with that.
Sony is reestablishing their indie side and some of the devs complaints were a bit OTT. Any of the big 3 would expect a platform specific trailer for example. Common sense.
Microsoft only really heavily promotes indies actually on Game Pass. Again understandable to a degree GP is their baby right now.
Nintendo if anything promotes them too much. Eshop is full of indie coverage and a lot of it is shovelware.
No way Insomniac acquisition was a retaliation. They had been working with Sony for years it was a natural fit. Same with Housemarque and Bluepoint. Natural fits.
Same time. Microsoft buying Bethesda was perfect for them. They needed a more immediate and significant boost to their portfolio of studios. It was a natural fit. They could in theory now start looking at devs working closely with them Moon Studios for example.
There was never an arms race. They took different directions.
To be honest. I see more articles talkong about it in the media than I see Sony fans crying about it.
Think its beating a dead horse at this point. Always made sense to lock the titles to the Xbox ecosystem. Only questionmark was whether anything contractual before the acquisition would make any future titles multiplat. E3 answered that question pretty much.
I dont get anyone knocking either Microsofts or Nintendos conferences. Both killed it.
Microsoft we knew would go pretty big and they did. Excited to see first party games on the horizon.
Nintendo dont deserve some of the criticism. They did exactly what they set out to do message was "Hey sorry we have been silent games are coming here is a taste" they will have other directs over the next few months.
Same with Microsoft. Not the last show of announcements we will see from them either.
For me E3 is pretty much a goner in a few years but its still nice to see some companies still trying to keep it alive.
I just hope it isnt all Bethesda games. Its a huge purchase so bound to be most of the showcase but want to see more from other studios too. Wonder what Moon Studios is up to.
I find this game an odd one. That tax clause with Sony relates to in game purchases I thought and Borderlands 3 has none.
This is likely 2k games taking a general stance against Sonys policy and if it is and they do it across their 2k sports series for example. Maybe just maybe it might provoke a change.
@Sol4ris perceived bias aside his point is a valid one.
Sony are being obnoxiously stubborn over it and its gonna take a big hitter ie GTA, Battlefield, CoD etc to get them to change their position. This one wont do it sadly.
@gingataisen I think the narrative went long before this gen. But I dont disagree getting back on top in their home region would be a bonus. Just that there isnt really that age old sales battle anymore.
@SegataSanshiro True point taken. I too am also a fan, Series X owner and a GP subscriber. I just think the whole sales and regional battle a bit of a dead horse.
Still some conquering there for the taking though. Keen to see how Japanese market looks once Xcloud grows out there.
Worrying. I know they are far more than just Halo and Forza but if the only big hitters this year are Halo and Forza big Phil is going to have to get on it with the messaging again.
@gingataisen @SegataSanshiro unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your view) its not the 90s/early 2000s anymore the console war narrative has gone. No one reigns supreme these days.
Playstation and Xbox are almost like Coca Cola and Pepsi at this point. One may have the edge in a region but ultimately they now do their own thing.
Proof will be in the pudding so to speak. Lets hope they do cultivate their studios. Buying ready made ones is great but I think studios built from the ground up like The Initiative will be key to success this gen.
Timed Exclusivity deals are no different than the whole release a film/tv show on one service then release it on demand elsewhere. Just business and they are all at it.
@JayJ its more that the Pushsquare reviewer feels it is their ideal Resi game. Every opinion will be different.
I do agree on the marketing and incentives bit . One thing I like more than anything about Pushsquare here and Nintendolife is the review quality. Always objective.
IGN and Gamespot on the other hand? Would be right on the money there 🤣
@Snake_V5 very rare for Sony and MS to make pure profit from hardware now. Not until at least mid to late through the gen. That said pandemic will factor in.
Subscriptions and Services are the big earner these days.
@UltimateOtaku91 I disagree. We have seen in tv/movie circles shows and films exlusively on streaming services creators have felt freedom to take risks due to guaranteed income. Some of those risks have paid off massively. So going pure subscription hasnt been a bad thing.
I think it will be the same on gaming. Devs will receive a lump sum guaranteed. Could breed complacency sure, but I think that freedom to take risks knowing money is coming in regardless will empower devs not hinder them or put pressure on to rush through meidocre products.
Them being enemies is just something being portrayed in the media to generate hits.
This is a win for both companies. Sony gets the benefit of Microsofts cloud infrastructure and expertise. And in turn Microsoft gets a massive client buying into Azure that would otherwise probably go to Amazons service.
I too wonder why Sony think theirs will be unique though. All I can think of they have some big plan to make their entire back catalogue streamable. Might be a licensing nightmare there though.
Despite some opinions on here I am going to say something I am sure I will get it in the neck for.
I dont think for the average joe they would see Game Pass as essential until next gen first party games start to appear on there and Microsofts first party output on there increases.
What I wont get it in the neck for saying is when that does happen. That 23 million? Will double in a very short space of time. E3 will be big for that. The value is great as it is but with all the first party output on there too? Immense.
I think even racing game haters would agree Forza Horizon 4 sets itself apart from them. In a market almost saturated with racers its a one of a kind game.
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Re: Xbox Adds Another New Dynamic Background For Series X|S Owners
I completely forget about backgrounds still have the default on spend so little time in the dashboard 😅
Re: Dev Criticises Sony’s Handing Of Indie Games, Says He’d Love To Get His Titles On Xbox Game Pass
@Cherip-the-Ripper why would it? Only relevant to their article to discuss Playstation.
Similarly if Game Pass wasnt mentioned then this article wouldnt be on here.
Re: Dev Criticises Sony’s Handing Of Indie Games, Says He’d Love To Get His Titles On Xbox Game Pass
@mousieone I cant say the fanboys really want to hear it but you are spot on with that.
Sony is reestablishing their indie side and some of the devs complaints were a bit OTT. Any of the big 3 would expect a platform specific trailer for example. Common sense.
Microsoft only really heavily promotes indies actually on Game Pass. Again understandable to a degree GP is their baby right now.
Nintendo if anything promotes them too much. Eshop is full of indie coverage and a lot of it is shovelware.
None of their strategies are perfect really.
Re: Yes, You'll Be Able To Become A Storm Chaser In Forza Horizon 5
Still loads to do on FH4 😂 but cant wait for this.
Re: PlayStation Boss Claims Sony Is Not In An 'Arms Race' Against Xbox To Acquire Studios
No way Insomniac acquisition was a retaliation. They had been working with Sony for years it was a natural fit. Same with Housemarque and Bluepoint. Natural fits.
Same time. Microsoft buying Bethesda was perfect for them. They needed a more immediate and significant boost to their portfolio of studios. It was a natural fit. They could in theory now start looking at devs working closely with them Moon Studios for example.
There was never an arms race. They took different directions.
Re: Rlaxx TV Brings Free Movies, Sports & More To Xbox In Europe
Not for me but good to see some of the more niche channels getting exposure.
Re: Random: Of Course, Somebody Has Made UK Bakery Greggs In Far Cry 5
Just need to recreate the chavs queuing outside now.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Fable Fans Should 'Take Confidence' In Developer Playground Games
This is the one game im waiting on more than anything.
Re: Oh My, Lost Judgment Will Feature A Playable SEGA Master System
Thats me done. I will never complete it just spend playtime on Alex the Kidd 🤣
Re: Portal Designer Kim Swift Joins Xbox Game Studios Publishing
@somnambulance Abandoned is either one of his best trolling skits to date, or one of the biggest PR nightmares in recent times.
Re: Bethesda's Pete Hines Apologises To Fans Upset By Starfield Xbox Exclusivity
To be honest. I see more articles talkong about it in the media than I see Sony fans crying about it.
Think its beating a dead horse at this point. Always made sense to lock the titles to the Xbox ecosystem. Only questionmark was whether anything contractual before the acquisition would make any future titles multiplat. E3 answered that question pretty much.
Re: Ninja Theory Plans To Share An Update On Hellblade 2 Tomorrow
Think Rare will tell us what Everwild actually is or will it be a deep dive into the Sea of Thieves expansion?
Re: Reaction: This Year's Shaky E3 Was Held Up By Xbox And Nintendo
I dont get anyone knocking either Microsofts or Nintendos conferences. Both killed it.
Microsoft we knew would go pretty big and they did. Excited to see first party games on the horizon.
Nintendo dont deserve some of the criticism. They did exactly what they set out to do message was "Hey sorry we have been silent games are coming here is a taste" they will have other directs over the next few months.
Same with Microsoft. Not the last show of announcements we will see from them either.
For me E3 is pretty much a goner in a few years but its still nice to see some companies still trying to keep it alive.
Re: Former Chief Xbox Officer: Phil Spencer Has Put The Business In A Very Good Place
Nadella deserves some credit too. Between the two of them gaming division getting a tonne of investment and attention.
Bethesda purchase wouldnt have happened under Steve Ballmer's watch.
Re: Insider Lists IP We Shouldn't Expect To See At Xbox's E3 2021 Showcase
I just hope it isnt all Bethesda games. Its a huge purchase so bound to be most of the showcase but want to see more from other studios too. Wonder what Moon Studios is up to.
Re: Phil Spencer Says Xbox 'Doesn't Want To Take Away' Physical Games
@StonyKL bound to be an "In Phil we trust" comment coming up soon.
Re: Microsoft Denies Dolby Vision & Atmos Will Be Two Year Exclusives For Xbox
@mousieone @uptownsoul put the weapons down and take a breath.
Re: Random: PlayStation's Days Gone Is Now Technically Playable On Xbox
Must be a slow news day. Used to be possible to run OG Xbox emulator through a fat PS3s Linux OS with enough savvy.
These types of workarounds been existing for years but far too much time on ones hands needed.
Re: Borderlands 3 Is Getting Crossplay On Xbox, But Not With PlayStation
I find this game an odd one. That tax clause with Sony relates to in game purchases I thought and Borderlands 3 has none.
This is likely 2k games taking a general stance against Sonys policy and if it is and they do it across their 2k sports series for example. Maybe just maybe it might provoke a change.
Sad it would take that to do it though.
Re: Borderlands 3 Is Getting Crossplay On Xbox, But Not With PlayStation
@Sol4ris perceived bias aside his point is a valid one.
Sony are being obnoxiously stubborn over it and its gonna take a big hitter ie GTA, Battlefield, CoD etc to get them to change their position. This one wont do it sadly.
Re: Xbox's E3 2021 Conference Will Reportedly Take Place On June 13
Id like to see a few announced then drop this year but expectations in check on that front.
Psyched to see all the first party stuff in pipeline though. Hopefully see a lot of gameplay.
Re: Netflix Is Reportedly Looking To Expand Into Video Games
If Sony were partnering with them in some way it would create an interesting scenario but I dont see it happening.
It could be a threat to Stadia etc but on its own I dont think its a direct competitor to Game Pass.
Re: Interesting, Obsidian Is Hiring For An 'Unannounced' RPG
@gingataisen I think the narrative went long before this gen. But I dont disagree getting back on top in their home region would be a bonus. Just that there isnt really that age old sales battle anymore.
Re: Interesting, Obsidian Is Hiring For An 'Unannounced' RPG
@SegataSanshiro True point taken. I too am also a fan, Series X owner and a GP subscriber. I just think the whole sales and regional battle a bit of a dead horse.
Still some conquering there for the taking though. Keen to see how Japanese market looks once Xcloud grows out there.
Re: Industry Insiders Reiterate Starfield Will Not Be Releasing This Year
Worrying. I know they are far more than just Halo and Forza but if the only big hitters this year are Halo and Forza big Phil is going to have to get on it with the messaging again.
Re: Interesting, Obsidian Is Hiring For An 'Unannounced' RPG
@gingataisen @SegataSanshiro unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your view) its not the 90s/early 2000s anymore the console war narrative has gone. No one reigns supreme these days.
Playstation and Xbox are almost like Coca Cola and Pepsi at this point. One may have the edge in a region but ultimately they now do their own thing.
Re: Xbox Doesn't Want Their First Party Studios To 'Change Their Creative Process'
Proof will be in the pudding so to speak. Lets hope they do cultivate their studios. Buying ready made ones is great but I think studios built from the ground up like The Initiative will be key to success this gen.
Re: Surprise! Free Radical Is Making A New TimeSplitters Game
I look forward to smashing out kills as a duck, gingerbread man or giant moose.
Re: Yes, Bethesda's Starfield Reportedly Will Be An Xbox And PC Exclusive
Kinda glad I own all 3 for this. For those that dont hopefully can enjoy it on Xcloud somehow.
Re: Yes, Bethesda's Starfield Reportedly Will Be An Xbox And PC Exclusive
@blinx01 I have not seen anyone question it recently on social networks etc.
Just the media that seem to keep talking about it now. Lol.
Re: Talking Point: Looking Back, What's Your First Memory Of The Original Xbox?
Project Gotham Racing. The novelty of being able to use custom music in it as well.
Re: Talking Point: Do You Want More 'Narrative-Adventure' Games Like The Last Of Us 2 On Xbox?
What is all the drama about either console having a genre diversity problem 😆 neither do.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Will Also Be A Timed Sony Exclusive
Its all a lot of melodrama. Its not an ideal business practice but it happens and they all do it.
Everyone forgets Rise of the Tomb Raider. All the big 3 have been at it before. Nothing really new just Sony pushing it harder these days.
Re: Stalker 2 Will Seemingly Be An Xbox Console Exclusive For 3 Months
Timed Exclusivity deals are no different than the whole release a film/tv show on one service then release it on demand elsewhere. Just business and they are all at it.
Re: Hold Up, Why Is Psychonauts 2 Already Available To Pre-Load On Xbox?
@blinx01 sorry I posted my comment about E3 before I saw yours. If it happens you can take the credit 😁
Re: Review: Resident Evil Village - An Action-Centric Follow-Up That Can't Quite Hit The Highs Of Its Predecessor
@JayJ its more that the Pushsquare reviewer feels it is their ideal Resi game. Every opinion will be different.
I do agree on the marketing and incentives bit . One thing I like more than anything about Pushsquare here and Nintendolife is the review quality. Always objective.
IGN and Gamespot on the other hand? Would be right on the money there 🤣
Re: Review: Resident Evil Village - An Action-Centric Follow-Up That Can't Quite Hit The Highs Of Its Predecessor
@PJOReilly cracking review. I like a review that goes against the grain somewhat without looking like its a ploy to get clicks.
Was always going to be difficult to blend Resi 7 and 4 together. Sounds like they did a good job of that overall though.
Re: Hold Up, Why Is Psychonauts 2 Already Available To Pre-Load On Xbox?
I am quite willing to bet this is an error....right now. But they are ballsy enough to shadow drop this at E3.
Re: Talking Point: Will Activision Ever Get On Board With Xbox Game Pass?
Bobby Kotick still in charge over there? Would explain a lot if he is.
Re: Microsoft Confirms It Never Earns A Profit On Xbox Console Sales
@Snake_V5 very rare for Sony and MS to make pure profit from hardware now. Not until at least mid to late through the gen. That said pandemic will factor in.
Subscriptions and Services are the big earner these days.
Re: Roundup: Here’s What The Critics Are Saying About Resident Evil Village
@Bmartin001 not surprised with IGNs though 🤣
Re: Rumour: Starfield Will Be An Xbox Exclusive, Could Release This Holiday
@LtSarge Not naive thinking. Some on here do oversell it slightly but thinking about it.
The Xbox One first party output late in its cycle was relatively low particularly during the year before next gen dropped.
Those devs have been busy beavering away on next gen titles. Not without possibility some of them could drop this year in quick succession.
First party will increase on Xbox exponentially over the next couple of years and I also like you think a few could drop close together this winter.
Re: Rumour: It Looks Like We Know When Elden Ring Is Getting Revealed
@ThanosReXXX the same population from other sites dragging threads down creeping in here now. Sad really.
Re: NieR Replicant's Console Version Reportedly Runs Best On Series X
Xcloud for PC will form part of the announcements here I reckon
Re: Dirt 5's Player Numbers Have Been 'Shockingly Huge' On Xbox Game Pass, Says Dev
@UltimateOtaku91 I disagree. We have seen in tv/movie circles shows and films exlusively on streaming services creators have felt freedom to take risks due to guaranteed income. Some of those risks have paid off massively. So going pure subscription hasnt been a bad thing.
I think it will be the same on gaming. Devs will receive a lump sum guaranteed. Could breed complacency sure, but I think that freedom to take risks knowing money is coming in regardless will empower devs not hinder them or put pressure on to rush through meidocre products.
Re: The New Internet Browser On Xbox Is Adding Keyboard & Mouse Support
@Senua if they add Microsoft Teams app to Xbox would be perfect. I can take all.my work calls while playing Forza.
Re: PlayStation Is 'Exchanging Ideas' With Xbox For Its Cloud Gaming Strategy
Them being enemies is just something being portrayed in the media to generate hits.
This is a win for both companies. Sony gets the benefit of Microsofts cloud infrastructure and expertise. And in turn Microsoft gets a massive client buying into Azure that would otherwise probably go to Amazons service.
I too wonder why Sony think theirs will be unique though. All I can think of they have some big plan to make their entire back catalogue streamable. Might be a licensing nightmare there though.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Still Buy An Xbox Without Game Pass In 2021?
For me I would buy one either way and have.
Despite some opinions on here I am going to say something I am sure I will get it in the neck for.
I dont think for the average joe they would see Game Pass as essential until next gen first party games start to appear on there and Microsofts first party output on there increases.
What I wont get it in the neck for saying is when that does happen. That 23 million? Will double in a very short space of time. E3 will be big for that. The value is great as it is but with all the first party output on there too? Immense.
Re: Pick One: If You Could Only Play One Of These, Which Would It Be?
Ori and Halo are amazing games.
I think even racing game haters would agree Forza Horizon 4 sets itself apart from them. In a market almost saturated with racers its a one of a kind game.
Re: Video: Here's The PlayStation Intro To MLB The Show 21 On Xbox Series X
I own all 3 so maybe Im biased to the hype but I honestly dont get the big deal.
MLB published it on Xbox but Sony developed it so their logo was bound to feature.
@TheFrenchiestFry probably not as I think Bethesda will still show as the publisher. But nothing would surprise me after this past year.