The drama is getting stale over it at this point. As much as Jim Ryan has made some daft quotes and calls him doing this is completely not a surprise, doing what he can to protect what probably makes Playstation a lot of money.
I guarantee that if the boot was on the other foot and lets say, Sony had the cash and acquired EA. Microsoft would kick up the same amount of fuss over Fifa.
In summary with anything relating to Sony crying over this deal: nothing to see here.
Honestly the nostalgic in me just cant get past the Silent Cartographer level on the original Halo as being the best Halo piece of the series.
The warthog races with mates around the island edge on co-op. The (albeit slightly morbid) playing a prank on the marines joining you then the look of disbielief when you kamikazied it off the side of a cliff edge.
Given the update it may not be true. The skeptic in me cant help but think this rumour has been partially engineered by someone within EA to drive other parties to come forward with interest.
Similarly and ironically. I work in recruitment and Linkedin Recruiter licenses (vital to our business I might add as only viable network in the market) are going up further soon and rising costs was alluded to in the email we had . Who owns Linkedin?
They are all at it and capitalising on it in some way.
Sadly, all of this is going to get worse over the next 12 months before its better.
I voted MS will absorb it (they are raising costs elsewhere anyway) they dont need to protect their market presence in the US but do elsewhere so they will keep as is to give them more traction.
But you are right. 18th century here we come for a while.
Some tech companies have increased prices and blamed it on inflation/taken advantage of inflation depending on which way you want to look at it. Look at the occulus increase. Insane.
Its really not a trigger to start a Playstation vs Xbox battle again. Its a bigger issue with companies taking advantage of the issue in certain areas.
Microsoft paid for timed exclusivity on a next gen upgrade. That was on another level.
Sony are a bit out there with the length on some of theirs but it is a bit misleading to say its becoming less on Xbox. It really isnt. They are both at it, just in different ways.
@Techno92LFC Maybe that would be a funny read. For a short time.
Problem is it would incentivise all those trolls to start getting vocal and their antics do nothing more than bore the rest of us who just want to play games.
Unless you were being sarcastic. In that case #longdayatworkandmissedthepoint.
Console wars are dead in the water, or should be. This is a bit ironic though as at least in the 360 days especially Greenberg loved stoking the fire in the media.
That tweet is almost like him being a mouthpiece for Phil at this point.
@FuzzieGinge88 the risk with that thinking is while captialism is a hard pill to swallow competition isnt.
The one key business phrase still holds true to date "competition drives quality" if the industry was limited to two of the biggest players having a joint machine the risk of complacency goes up ten fold and quality would inevitably suffer.
While the whole acquisition thing is a different problem having a unified machine would create more problems than it solved.
@Banjo- Gotta give it to MS Sony has been reacting to things Xbox does a fair bit last few years but it has gone the other way in the past.
We all know Jim Ryan has a rep but im not writing off the value of Sonys scheme yet loyalty schemes are very adaptable. Even if some of Sonys offerings are not.
UK here and one supermarket has never had a points scheme while others have for years. Launches their own and id argue it surpasses the rest. Took what the others did and launched it with their own spin and paid off.
@Kooky_Daisuke that happened to me too mate compressed air did the job cleaning it out and it was all good. Was a fly with me rather than a wasp and it more or less got eaten up in the fan lol
@Banjo- you will still keep hearing it precisely because its subjective unfortunately so opinion which some will still be very vocal about regardless. Nature of the beast unfortunately!
I for one am very happy with this though. MS first party output so far is light years ahead of the latter part of last gen. No matter what console anyone owns (or multiple) in for a cracking 2022 and beyond.
Only downside is how big everyones backlog is going to get. Mines already insurmountable as it is lol.
I want to. The world is my type of thing but and what has put me off souls games is that insane difficulty. With so much in backlog im the type to get frustrated with that mechanic pretty quick. I like a challenging boss fight but its on another level for me that.
I am of course assuming this one is no more accessible in that regard than previous entries. Feel free to correct me!
@blinx01 Jim Ryan is just a corporate figure head. Its guys like Hermen Hulst, Shu and Mark Cerny that make Playstation tick. Their structure is different. They are missing Shawn Layden and Jack Tretton for being in the public eye.
Phil loves being out and about in the media. Its good to see.
Both companies could simply be looking at all the buyups Tencent have been making and reacting to that.
The comittment from both sides to make games multiplat makes me think while ultimately its about profits. Its also to some extent keeping companies like Tencent et al away from key developers.
Apple with hardware has always been about high end high price. In the laptop and mobile space they have success with that.
I just cant see traditional console buyers swallowing a premium price point for potentially similar hardware, nor could I see Apple launching hardware at low markup to drop the price either.
I could see them utilising experienced staff in the software space to beef up Apple Arcade though.
@HaggisNight I think either Sony or Ninty leaving the business would be bad. Competition creates quality.
Leave only one player in the market eventually that drive for quality will be compromised.
I still think all 3 can coexist in the same market. Microsoft are competing more against the major investors in the market like Tencent and to some extent maybe EA/Epic with this more than anything else.
I just hope with the deluge of IPs Microsoft are getting through these acquisitons we dont see the key ones lose any focus.
Crash, Spyro etc they have a massive opportunity to capitalise on the recent revivals of those games. MS said a while back they wanted more family friendly games on Xbox. They have a key opportunity for that now.
It just highlights how big a job Phil and his team had when they took over (I say his team too and stress that as I am sure there are a lot behind the scenes that helped with the turnaround) and with his leadership are in such a better place now.
@UltimateOtaku91 hating Sonic is subjective though. Atlus certainly hasnt been their saving grace overall commercially, they have done so much more than JRPGs that have been successful.
Comes down to the size of the forum community. Bigger the userbase the more nonsense you will see.
I see it more on PS and NL but I have seen certain users here do it too - look for any thread where they can turn it into and Xbox vs Playstation boxing match. I just hope as this sites userbase grows more again it does not go the same way.
@NEStalgia tbf even though I need coffee to read them all sometimes your comments make sense and I almost always agree with you. Wasnt really directed at you more to those who only seem to comment when they can compare xbox vs ps and take a pop. It gets old.
Honestly - I do think PS users spend way too much time on GamePass and profitability but I am sure you can agree with me too the whole tit for tat between console zealots doesnt half get old very quickly.
Making money and making profits are absolutely two different things but its definitely sustainable. The subscription numbers, the in game purchases by users who may not have dipped into those first party games paying full price, many factors that will make them their money back.
Its been a game changing service and will continue to be that way. They are on to a winner. MS being able to afford to take the risk with it helped, but no doubt eventually it will turn a profit for them.
All that aside I still cant understand how this post prompted all the playstation comments. Wasnt even mentioned in the article. Console wars are a dead horse stop beating it.
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Re: Rumour: Jim Ryan 'Flew To Brussels' To Voice Concerns Over Xbox's ActiBlizz Deal
The drama is getting stale over it at this point. As much as Jim Ryan has made some daft quotes and calls him doing this is completely not a surprise, doing what he can to protect what probably makes Playstation a lot of money.
I guarantee that if the boot was on the other foot and lets say, Sony had the cash and acquired EA. Microsoft would kick up the same amount of fuss over Fifa.
In summary with anything relating to Sony crying over this deal: nothing to see here.
Re: Talking Point: Is Halo 3 The Pinnacle Of The Franchise So Far?
Honestly the nostalgic in me just cant get past the Silent Cartographer level on the original Halo as being the best Halo piece of the series.
The warthog races with mates around the island edge on co-op. The (albeit slightly morbid) playing a prank on the marines joining you then the look of disbielief when you kamikazied it off the side of a cliff edge.
Those were the days.
Re: Disney Reportedly Aiming For New 'Star Wars' Titles Every 6 Months
Two titles a year split between devs maybe means no sacrifice on quality, but skeptical on that until I see it first hand.
Re: FIFA 23's EA Play Trial Is Currently Having Some Serious Problems On Xbox
EA....having problems? Well never saw that coming.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Runtime Revealed Ahead Of Xbox Game Pass Launch
Looking forward to this loved the first one.
Re: It's 2022 And GTA 5 Outsold 'Saints Row' In Europe Last Month
Some of those sales are probably buyers of the new Saints Row who said sod it I need me some GTA. Hadnt bought the next gen remaster and jumped on it.
Re: Xbox's Latest Insider Update Adds Ability To Mute Console Startup Sounds
My cats will be very grateful for the ability to mute the splash screen. Makes them jump every time!
As for the chime turned that off ages ago due to them as well they would hear it and jump on it and use the top vent as a seat..
Re: Hogwarts Legacy To Include 'PlayStation Exclusive Quest'
@SplooshDmg exaxctly this part of a marketing deal. Would be the same the other way.
Usual suspects will build it up into an argument though. Same stuff, different day.
Re: Rumour: CNBC Suggests Amazon Isn't Planning To Acquire EA
Given the update it may not be true. The skeptic in me cant help but think this rumour has been partially engineered by someone within EA to drive other parties to come forward with interest.
Re: Xbox Series X & Series S Will Not Follow PlayStation 5 Price Increase
Why is every thread lately ending up with the same few people coming in and arguing with each other (on both sides I might add)
Just crack on and enjoy the games on your box of choice.
Re: Reaction: Will Xbox Follow PlayStation In Raising Console Prices?
@NEStalgia yep totally agree.
Similarly and ironically. I work in recruitment and Linkedin Recruiter licenses (vital to our business I might add as only viable network in the market) are going up further soon and rising costs was alluded to in the email we had . Who owns Linkedin?
They are all at it and capitalising on it in some way.
Sadly, all of this is going to get worse over the next 12 months before its better.
I voted MS will absorb it (they are raising costs elsewhere anyway) they dont need to protect their market presence in the US but do elsewhere so they will keep as is to give them more traction.
But you are right. 18th century here we come for a while.
Re: Reaction: Will Xbox Follow PlayStation In Raising Console Prices?
Some tech companies have increased prices and blamed it on inflation/taken advantage of inflation depending on which way you want to look at it. Look at the occulus increase. Insane.
Its really not a trigger to start a Playstation vs Xbox battle again. Its a bigger issue with companies taking advantage of the issue in certain areas.
Capitalism is gross sometimes.
Re: Talking Point: How Often Do You Use Your Xbox To Watch TV In 2022?
I use my Fire TV. If i didnt I may use the Xbox as the LG C1 webOS apps arent the fastest.
Re: Xbox 'Encouraged' Console Wars During The 360 Era, Says Former Exec
I remember his GTA IV tattoo reveal. Priceless at the time.
Re: Xbox Games With Gold For August 2022 Announced
Can only stream it on PS5 so might dl on Xbox to give Saints Row 2 another bash. Best game in the series imo.
Re: Xbox Series X And S Have Been Next-Gen 'Market Leaders' In The US
@Skedaddle "Stop worrying about whose plastic box is selling more and enjoy gaming."
You literally just made case and point there mate. The amount of whinging that goes on I dont know how they find time to game..
Just crack on and enjoy.
Re: 'Forspoken' PS5 Delay Means It Won't Come To Xbox Until 2025
Microsoft paid for timed exclusivity on a next gen upgrade. That was on another level.
Sony are a bit out there with the length on some of theirs but it is a bit misleading to say its becoming less on Xbox. It really isnt. They are both at it, just in different ways.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Celebrate' Other Console Platforms More
@Techno92LFC Maybe that would be a funny read. For a short time.
Problem is it would incentivise all those trolls to start getting vocal and their antics do nothing more than bore the rest of us who just want to play games.
Unless you were being sarcastic. In that case #longdayatworkandmissedthepoint.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Celebrate' Other Console Platforms More
Console wars are dead in the water, or should be. This is a bit ironic though as at least in the 360 days especially Greenberg loved stoking the fire in the media.
That tweet is almost like him being a mouthpiece for Phil at this point.
Re: Xbox Exec Wants To 'Celebrate' Other Console Platforms More
@FuzzieGinge88 the risk with that thinking is while captialism is a hard pill to swallow competition isnt.
The one key business phrase still holds true to date "competition drives quality" if the industry was limited to two of the biggest players having a joint machine the risk of complacency goes up ten fold and quality would inevitably suffer.
While the whole acquisition thing is a different problem having a unified machine would create more problems than it solved.
Re: PlayStation Is Adding Its Own Version Of Microsoft Rewards This Year
@Banjo- Gotta give it to MS Sony has been reacting to things Xbox does a fair bit last few years but it has gone the other way in the past.
We all know Jim Ryan has a rep but im not writing off the value of Sonys scheme yet loyalty schemes are very adaptable. Even if some of Sonys offerings are not.
UK here and one supermarket has never had a points scheme while others have for years. Launches their own and id argue it surpasses the rest. Took what the others did and launched it with their own spin and paid off.
Re: PlayStation Is Adding Its Own Version Of Microsoft Rewards This Year
"The rewards dont sound as good though" not saying I disagree @FraserG but bit baity no? You know how easily a few get wound up in here lol.
Re: Reaction: Credit Where Credit's Due, We Got Plenty Of Gameplay At The Xbox Showcase
In agreement here. While there were no megaton announcements was great to almost see pure gameplay.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (May 7-8)
@Kooky_Daisuke that happened to me too mate compressed air did the job cleaning it out and it was all good. Was a fly with me rather than a wasp and it more or less got eaten up in the fan lol
Re: Microsoft Named Metacritic's Best Publisher In 2021
@Banjo- easier to not respond to them. Fanboys spend more time rabbitting on than actually playing the games they pretend to be so loyal to.
Re: Microsoft Named Metacritic's Best Publisher In 2021
@Banjo- you will still keep hearing it precisely because its subjective unfortunately so opinion which some will still be very vocal about regardless. Nature of the beast unfortunately!
I for one am very happy with this though. MS first party output so far is light years ahead of the latter part of last gen. No matter what console anyone owns (or multiple) in for a cracking 2022 and beyond.
Only downside is how big everyones backlog is going to get. Mines already insurmountable as it is lol.
Re: These Seven Games Are Coming To Xbox Game Pass (March 1-10)
@DreamlandGem I still have 2020 games in my backlog will never get through it all!
Re: Poll: Have You Bought Elden Ring?
I want to. The world is my type of thing but and what has put me off souls games is that insane difficulty. With so much in backlog im the type to get frustrated with that mechanic pretty quick. I like a challenging boss fight but its on another level for me that.
I am of course assuming this one is no more accessible in that regard than previous entries. Feel free to correct me!
Re: Xbox Fan Shares Their Experience Playing Game Pass With Phil Spencer
@blinx01 Jim Ryan is just a corporate figure head. Its guys like Hermen Hulst, Shu and Mark Cerny that make Playstation tick. Their structure is different. They are missing Shawn Layden and Jack Tretton for being in the public eye.
Phil loves being out and about in the media. Its good to see.
Re: Xbox Fan Shares Their Experience Playing Game Pass With Phil Spencer
@JON22 Shu Yoshida is a pretty avid gamer on Playstation side too
Re: It's Officially Dying Light 2 Launch Week! Here Are The Worldwide Release Times
@themightyant go by the AM or PM.
AM is midnight PM is midday.
Re: Sony Boss Tells PlayStation Owners To 'Expect More Acquisitions'
Both companies could simply be looking at all the buyups Tencent have been making and reacting to that.
The comittment from both sides to make games multiplat makes me think while ultimately its about profits. Its also to some extent keeping companies like Tencent et al away from key developers.
Re: SEGA's Two Point Campus Launches With Xbox Game Pass This May
I just hope the control scheme is well suited to console.
It will run on my laptop im sure but would rather game on my Series X
Re: Shredders Xbox Game Pass Release Date Leaked On MS Store
I miss SSX Tricky needs a remaster! Lol. But will check this out.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@Medic_Alert Sonic needs his day in lights again. Not been a great Sonic game for me since Generations.
Re: Xbox Exec Responds To Being Criticised For 'Trolling' PlayStation Fans On Twitter
@GADG3Tx87 couldnt agree more with this.
Re: Rumour: Another Xbox Franchise Is Getting A Remastered Collection
@Chaudy second this. Fable collection in 4k would be awesome.
Re: Rumour: Apple 'Poaching' Xbox Engineers To Potentially Make A Video Game Console
I cant see them releasing a traditional console.
Apple with hardware has always been about high end high price. In the laptop and mobile space they have success with that.
I just cant see traditional console buyers swallowing a premium price point for potentially similar hardware, nor could I see Apple launching hardware at low markup to drop the price either.
I could see them utilising experienced staff in the software space to beef up Apple Arcade though.
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
@HaggisNight I think either Sony or Ninty leaving the business would be bad. Competition creates quality.
Leave only one player in the market eventually that drive for quality will be compromised.
I still think all 3 can coexist in the same market. Microsoft are competing more against the major investors in the market like Tencent and to some extent maybe EA/Epic with this more than anything else.
Re: Microsoft Is Buying Activision Blizzard, Reportedly For $70 Billion
I just hope with the deluge of IPs Microsoft are getting through these acquisitons we dont see the key ones lose any focus.
Crash, Spyro etc they have a massive opportunity to capitalise on the recent revivals of those games. MS said a while back they wanted more family friendly games on Xbox. They have a key opportunity for that now.
Re: Ubisoft Announces Splinter Cell Remake, 'Built From The Ground Up'
Shame its not entirely new but ill take it.
Re: Xbox Admits 'Big Missteps' With The Handling Of Lionhead Studios
Fable 3 was handled pretty badly as well. Not enough of an evolution on what Fable 2 laid a foundation for.
Confident in Playground Games nailing the reboot though. Cant wait.
Re: Xbox Documentary Addresses PlayStation's Infamous 'Used Game Instructional Video'
It just highlights how big a job Phil and his team had when they took over (I say his team too and stress that as I am sure there are a lot behind the scenes that helped with the turnaround) and with his leadership are in such a better place now.
Re: Phil Spencer: Xbox Is 'Refilling The Pipe' With Ambitious New Ideas For The Future
@Rmg0731 you will catch a few tempers in here for that one lol
Re: The Dreamcast's Legacy Lives On With Xbox, Says Former SEGA America President
@UltimateOtaku91 hating Sonic is subjective though. Atlus certainly hasnt been their saving grace overall commercially, they have done so much more than JRPGs that have been successful.
Re: The Dreamcast's Legacy Lives On With Xbox, Says Former SEGA America President
@Carck amazing just how well Sega adapted and recovered after Dreamcast sadly failed.
Would love them to get back in the hardware space one day but I do think they are better off where they are now and that game list proves it.
Re: PlayStation Team Celebrates 20th Anniversary Of Xbox On Twitter
Comes down to the size of the forum community. Bigger the userbase the more nonsense you will see.
I see it more on PS and NL but I have seen certain users here do it too - look for any thread where they can turn it into and Xbox vs Playstation boxing match. I just hope as this sites userbase grows more again it does not go the same way.
Re: Phil Spencer: Xbox Game Pass Isn't 'Burning Cash', It's Very Sustainable
@NEStalgia tbf even though I need coffee to read them all sometimes your comments make sense and I almost always agree with you. Wasnt really directed at you more to those who only seem to comment when they can compare xbox vs ps and take a pop. It gets old.
Honestly - I do think PS users spend way too much time on GamePass and profitability but I am sure you can agree with me too the whole tit for tat between console zealots doesnt half get old very quickly.
Re: Phil Spencer: Xbox Game Pass Isn't 'Burning Cash', It's Very Sustainable
Making money and making profits are absolutely two different things but its definitely sustainable. The subscription numbers, the in game purchases by users who may not have dipped into those first party games paying full price, many factors that will make them their money back.
Its been a game changing service and will continue to be that way. They are on to a winner. MS being able to afford to take the risk with it helped, but no doubt eventually it will turn a profit for them.
All that aside I still cant understand how this post prompted all the playstation comments. Wasnt even mentioned in the article. Console wars are a dead horse stop beating it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 13-14)
My weekend is mirroring Fraser. GTA Trilogy and FH5 for me.
Bugs aside with GTA I am enjoying the nostalgia kick.
Edit: all the best for the future as well Daniel