@awp69 both sites do really good reviews sometimes differences are stark but that just shows they allow reviewers to be really independent and give their own review. I use both these sites to get a view on games I havent preordered.
Much more refreshing than the often scripted style of reviews on places like IGN and Gamespot, I think.
@Moonglow Xbox always had games. People focus too much on the back end of the Xbox One gen where first party output was genuinely rather poor. They were focussing dev teams on this and it is about to pay off.
Its going to be a competitive 2024 and ultimately gamers will benefit. Bring it on.
@Titntin I am in that camp but I hold faith that modern audience tropes aside, the fact it is Playground Games should hold well for the gameplay side of things.
@Banjo- The graphics do look great. And I am not dissapointed myself yet just worried.
Game has been ages in development and still no gameplay is a concern for me.
I really want to be proved wrong on it, its one of my favourite franchises. Its reasonable to expect a reboot after Fable 3 just hope it goes in the right direction.
As for Richard Ayoade Im not sure his involvement extends beyond being in the trailer but if it does yep he will probably be the narrator guiding the player through the timeline.
I just hope the staples stay and get expanded like jobs and property buying. After I lost the time needed to play things like the sims properly this was my go to.
@Banjo- whatever floats your boat. I have plenty of negative views on The Last of Us 2 for example. But this isnt the right thread for it.
I deleted my comment as it was going way off topic. Unfortunately no PM option for you to air the problem you have got with me.
I will repeat the end of my comment to end it. You do you and I will do me but comment histories are there and for those with multiple accounts also shows any posts from old usernames. I do have one old account but again nothing there to stack it up. Maybe you have the wrong person?
I can only go by me. I am over 60 and seen all of it including the old Amiga/Spectrum arguments. Console wars give me a headache want no part of it.
Staying on topic my concern with this as a long time Fable fan is it losing its charm for the sake of modernisation. I hope I end up being wrong.
@FenIsMightier for me it just didnt show enough. Richard Ayaode added a bit of grandiose to it but after the time in development was just hoping to see some gameplay.
@Banjo- do you really want to have a tit for tat battle here?
Own all 3 have done for years I love Fable followed since Project Ego. Molyneux's ambiton always outweighed the tech available sadly but well intentioned. I just worry about the direction it might be taking here but happy to be proved wrong.
If you can prove in my comment history I am a Sony "fan" as you put it I will happily clarify otherwise its a bit of an attack on me that and that is sad.
Your comment history tells me you come out swinging on anything negative with Xbox thinking anyone posting it is a Sony fanboy that needs putting back in their box, fair play there is a few of them on here but trust me that aint me. I just like to game.
@torne agree with you here. Its a short trailer but the biggest takeaway is it may have moved from the classic tongue in cheek humour to cheesy nonsense.
@antstephenson I don't do or care for culture wars do my head in, I get your point so I have edited my comment to remove the term that would maybe trigger a few people but my point still stands.
More often than not "redeveloped for the moden era and/or modern audiences" often removes the "culture" or "environment" of the original games or the franchise to avoid causing unneccessary offence.
Look at what happened with Saints Row. I really hope it does not happen with this.
Its the bit at the end of the showcase that worried me with Phil "we showcased Fable redeveloped for the modern era while staying true to the british style" Redeveloped for the modern area screams to me "We started it then went back to the drawing board to make sure we can make it 21st century friendly enough"
I honestly hope I am proved wrong and if I am I will come back to this thread and say I am full of rubbish.
Its kinda sad any article that comes out about this and any reference to Sony fans reaction is measured by the comment threads on one site that on the whole contains such a miniscule portion of the wider playstation fanbase. Similar on that site referencing the community here just as bad over there. Its a little bit toxic.
Anyway old fuddy duddy moaning aside. Its a common thing big corps trying to get politicians on side but they normally use lobbying firms to do it!
I look at the article then the comments and I swear blind Sony live rent free in some peoples heads on here. Im just glad to see another good looking Japanese game coming to Xbox.
The CMA pretty much dismissed Sonys concerns altogether and focussed on cloud gaming in their ruling. Whatever Sony say now be it nonsense they are pegging or otherwise isnt really relevant to it anymore as they arent involved much in that space (yet).
I imagine MS appeal will centre on data around the cloud market and not Sony talking fantasy land during an internal meeting.
If the boot was on the other foot MS would be saying the exact same thing. Its all big corp posturing and a load of drama. Be glad when its over.
Industry is in an exciting place so much quality coming from indie devs, crossovers into TV and Film that are actually entertaining but this saga gets way more coverage.
Call me an old fuddy duddy but the drama is getting stale really quick. Be glad when its all over.
@UltimateOtaku91 agree the source is questionable. But given the trend with Deathloop and Ghostwhire. You cant deny there may be some element of truth to it. Why go for those and not the biggie?
One day we can all go back to just enjoying games without worrying about enjoyment being impacted by megacorp tit for tat... maybe.
Be glad when its all over, I think it will go through regardless the drama leading up to it just puts both companies in a bad light. Both are handling the whole thing pretty badly.
Microsoft: "We care about all gamers enjoying games regardless of what platform" - buys one of the biggest companies up. Its hilarious and perhaps understandable the only drama is around CoD when in reality there are so many massive franchises that will go exclusive. Crash, Spyro, Tony Hawk, Diablo to name a few.
Sony: "We think this will be bad for gaming" - moneyhats Square and god knows who else to keep games away from other platforms.
Both companies being hypocrits and hiding behind CoD to do it as its mass appeal will detract anyone and everyone from the real underlying issue.
The sad thing about this whole drama is whether this acquisition goes through or not its bringing out all the fanboys from both sides and turning it into dated console war nonsense.
Game Pass has been awesome for offering exposure to some fantastic indie games that the devs wouldnt have otherwise gained from going down the normal route.
Can agree though it needs to be value for money and avoid any kind of "shovelware" type scenario and have access to big games. Would argue all of Microsofts first party being on there day and date covers that though?
@Tharsman same license holder but Microsoft havent (or at least not publically) bought any rights to the Indy IP for use so may still be Disney's call at this point.
Dont get me wrong this is completely relevant and needs to be an article. I too am curious by the third title.
But to put my input in, maybe its my age but I keep thinking the drama over this is getting so old. Capitalism has taken over gaming far too much so much so I think the enjoyment of just gaming gets forgotten. Lol.
As for my theory on the third title. Mine is one not mentioned, the idea of being enjoyed by single players or small groups is telling as this lacked a massive multiplayer community, I would guess the next Wolfenstein as the third title.
I can envisage a lot of Switch owners who wanted a next gen machine alongside it having gone for the S at its friendly price point too, really smart move going with the two models that.
So much drama. We all know it will go through. Sony will have to accept an offer, stop whining and we can all go back to gaming and enjoying ourselves.
All a bit much of a muchness the big corp posturing. If the boot was on the other foot and Sony acquired EA (would never happen but hypothetical) MS would panic and moan the same way about Fifa.
I have mentioned this before. And I appreciate its in an unrelated industry to gaming. But all the talk of Sony monopolising - Microsoft absolutely do the exact same thing elsewhere.
The whole big corp vs big corp bickering gets really old.
These games are acquired tastes a little bit marmite so half expected this. Those who loved Inside and Limbo I would still think would get some enjoyment here even if not on the same level.
@Kaloudz Blockchain itself is hard googling its so open ended.
But in gaming terms. Essentially rather than just obtaining an item in a game and that item being limited to your use. You effictively own the item outright and can opt to sell/trade with other players and the game publisher takes a cut. Like an in-game ebay almost.
Its another way of forcing microtransactions on the basis it can actually make money for the player as well as the publisher, so understandably most gamers hate it, goes into NFT territory.
Over the drama at this point. Deal will go through, the posturing gets old.
MS arent wrong in what they are saying but they overcharge in their other business areas themselves because they have a monopoly there. All the big corps do it in some areas so it is a little bit pot and kettle.
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Re: Review: Layers Of Fear - A Gorgeous Take On A Pointless Remake
@awp69 both sites do really good reviews sometimes differences are stark but that just shows they allow reviewers to be really independent and give their own review. I use both these sites to get a view on games I havent preordered.
Much more refreshing than the often scripted style of reviews on places like IGN and Gamespot, I think.
Re: Forza Motorsport Campaign Gameplay Introduces RPG-Like Progression
@Stocksy unfortunate trend on most games on all formats now sadly.
Odd as some solo players prefer it entirely solo ie offline.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Seems Extremely Excited About id Software's Next Game
@Moonglow Xbox always had games. People focus too much on the back end of the Xbox One gen where first party output was genuinely rather poor. They were focussing dev teams on this and it is about to pay off.
Its going to be a competitive 2024 and ultimately gamers will benefit. Bring it on.
Re: This Week's New 'Fable' Trailer Was Captured On An Xbox Series X
@Titntin I am in that camp but I hold faith that modern audience tropes aside, the fact it is Playground Games should hold well for the gameplay side of things.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@Banjo- The graphics do look great. And I am not dissapointed myself yet just worried.
Game has been ages in development and still no gameplay is a concern for me.
I really want to be proved wrong on it, its one of my favourite franchises. Its reasonable to expect a reboot after Fable 3 just hope it goes in the right direction.
As for Richard Ayoade Im not sure his involvement extends beyond being in the trailer but if it does yep he will probably be the narrator guiding the player through the timeline.
I just hope the staples stay and get expanded like jobs and property buying. After I lost the time needed to play things like the sims properly this was my go to.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@Banjo- whatever floats your boat. I have plenty of negative views on The Last of Us 2 for example. But this isnt the right thread for it.
I deleted my comment as it was going way off topic. Unfortunately no PM option for you to air the problem you have got with me.
I will repeat the end of my comment to end it. You do you and I will do me but comment histories are there and for those with multiple accounts also shows any posts from old usernames. I do have one old account but again nothing there to stack it up. Maybe you have the wrong person?
I can only go by me. I am over 60 and seen all of it including the old Amiga/Spectrum arguments. Console wars give me a headache want no part of it.
Staying on topic my concern with this as a long time Fable fan is it losing its charm for the sake of modernisation. I hope I end up being wrong.
Re: Poll: How Would You Grade The Xbox Games Showcase 2023?
Voted B. It was better than Playsstations. Loved the Starfield deep dive after. Looking forward to it.
Did hope to see more gameplay of Fable and Forza Motorsport and Hellbade 2. Maybe Tuesdays extended showcase will show a bit more.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@FenIsMightier for me it just didnt show enough. Richard Ayaode added a bit of grandiose to it but after the time in development was just hoping to see some gameplay.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@Banjo- do you really want to have a tit for tat battle here?
Own all 3 have done for years I love Fable followed since Project Ego. Molyneux's ambiton always outweighed the tech available sadly but well intentioned. I just worry about the direction it might be taking here but happy to be proved wrong.
If you can prove in my comment history I am a Sony "fan" as you put it I will happily clarify otherwise its a bit of an attack on me that and that is sad.
Your comment history tells me you come out swinging on anything negative with Xbox thinking anyone posting it is a Sony fanboy that needs putting back in their box, fair play there is a few of them on here but trust me that aint me. I just like to game.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@torne agree with you here. Its a short trailer but the biggest takeaway is it may have moved from the classic tongue in cheek humour to cheesy nonsense.
I hope that does not end up being the case.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
@antstephenson I don't do or care for culture wars do my head in, I get your point so I have edited my comment to remove the term that would maybe trigger a few people but my point still stands.
More often than not "redeveloped for the moden era and/or modern audiences" often removes the "culture" or "environment" of the original games or the franchise to avoid causing unneccessary offence.
Look at what happened with Saints Row. I really hope it does not happen with this.
Re: Fable Looks Jaw-Dropping With First In-Game Trailer
Its the bit at the end of the showcase that worried me with Phil "we showcased Fable redeveloped for the modern era while staying true to the british style" Redeveloped for the modern area screams to me "We started it then went back to the drawing board to make sure we can make it 21st century friendly enough"
I honestly hope I am proved wrong and if I am I will come back to this thread and say I am full of rubbish.
Re: Report: Microsoft President To Discuss Activision Blizzard Deal With UK Chancellor This Week
Its kinda sad any article that comes out about this and any reference to Sony fans reaction is measured by the comment threads on one site that on the whole contains such a miniscule portion of the wider playstation fanbase. Similar on that site referencing the community here just as bad over there. Its a little bit toxic.
Anyway old fuddy duddy moaning aside. Its a common thing big corps trying to get politicians on side but they normally use lobbying firms to do it!
Re: Stop The Presses, Square Enix Just Announced A New Game For Xbox
I look at the article then the comments and I swear blind Sony live rent free in some peoples heads on here. Im just glad to see another good looking Japanese game coming to Xbox.
Re: Rockstar Is Seeking 'Nothing Short Of Perfection' With GTA 6
And to think someone wrote to his mother to ban it. This brings back memories
https://www.wired.com/2008/04/jack-thompson-p/#:~:text=%22Train%20up%20a%20child%20in,IV%20with%20no%20age%20verification.
Re: Rockstar Is Seeking 'Nothing Short Of Perfection' With GTA 6
@Exerion76 I dont think they will do a Saints Row. GTA makes too much money for them to risk messing it up.
Re: Xbox Has Much Weaker Brand Momentum Than PlayStation, Claims New Sony Document
The CMA pretty much dismissed Sonys concerns altogether and focussed on cloud gaming in their ruling. Whatever Sony say now be it nonsense they are pegging or otherwise isnt really relevant to it anymore as they arent involved much in that space (yet).
I imagine MS appeal will centre on data around the cloud market and not Sony talking fantasy land during an internal meeting.
Re: Sony Blasts CMA's Xbox Verdict As 'Surprising, Unprecedented And Irrational'
If the boot was on the other foot MS would be saying the exact same thing. Its all big corp posturing and a load of drama. Be glad when its over.
Industry is in an exciting place so much quality coming from indie devs, crossovers into TV and Film that are actually entertaining but this saga gets way more coverage.
Call me an old fuddy duddy but the drama is getting stale really quick. Be glad when its all over.
Re: Redfall Dubbed 'Serious GOTY Contender' As Hands-On Previews Go Live
As long as its good to play solo I am looking forward to this.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Discusses The Importance Of Platform Exclusives
@UltimateOtaku91 agree the source is questionable. But given the trend with Deathloop and Ghostwhire. You cant deny there may be some element of truth to it. Why go for those and not the biggie?
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Discusses The Importance Of Platform Exclusives
@Chaudy completely agree on this but some won't move on sadly. Always something to complain about.
Re: Microsoft Defends ActiBlizz Acquisition By Highlighting PlayStation's Dominance Over Xbox
One day we can all go back to just enjoying games without worrying about enjoyment being impacted by megacorp tit for tat... maybe.
Be glad when its all over, I think it will go through regardless the drama leading up to it just puts both companies in a bad light. Both are handling the whole thing pretty badly.
Re: Microsoft Agrees Deal With Nvidia To Bring Xbox & ActiBlizz Games To GeForce Now
Microsoft: "We care about all gamers enjoying games regardless of what platform" - buys one of the biggest companies up. Its hilarious and perhaps understandable the only drama is around CoD when in reality there are so many massive franchises that will go exclusive. Crash, Spyro, Tony Hawk, Diablo to name a few.
Sony: "We think this will be bad for gaming" - moneyhats Square and god knows who else to keep games away from other platforms.
Both companies being hypocrits and hiding behind CoD to do it as its mass appeal will detract anyone and everyone from the real underlying issue.
It is all getting just a little bit daft now.
Re: Sony Feels Microsoft Is Committing 'Obvious Harassment' In Relation To ActiBlizz Deal
The sad thing about this whole drama is whether this acquisition goes through or not its bringing out all the fanboys from both sides and turning it into dated console war nonsense.
Whatever happened to just enjoying gaming?
Re: UK Authority Proposes Excluding Call Of Duty From Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal
@Savage_Joe every time a newsbite comes out on this sale it triggers some.
Re: 'Lies Of P' Gameplay Trailer Shows Upcoming Xbox Game Pass RPG Running In 8K, On PC
@Cyberpsycho both claimed 8k hdr output but safe assumption it applied to media content and not gaming.
Re: Tunic Publisher 'Concerned' About Subscription Services Like Xbox Game Pass
@Cyberpsycho Agree and disagree there.
Game Pass has been awesome for offering exposure to some fantastic indie games that the devs wouldnt have otherwise gained from going down the normal route.
Can agree though it needs to be value for money and avoid any kind of "shovelware" type scenario and have access to big games. Would argue all of Microsofts first party being on there day and date covers that though?
Re: Xbox Games With Gold For January 2023 Announced
It is almost as if it is deliberate putting out poor monthly games on Gold to push people to Game Pass who havent done it already.
If anything it would waste less resource to remove Gold completely. The number of Xbox gamers not on GP already must be small enough surely.
Re: Xbox Confirms Exclusivity Plans For Three Upcoming Bethesda Games
@Tharsman same license holder but Microsoft havent (or at least not publically) bought any rights to the Indy IP for use so may still be Disney's call at this point.
Re: Xbox Confirms Exclusivity Plans For Three Upcoming Bethesda Games
Dont get me wrong this is completely relevant and needs to be an article. I too am curious by the third title.
But to put my input in, maybe its my age but I keep thinking the drama over this is getting so old. Capitalism has taken over gaming far too much so much so I think the enjoyment of just gaming gets forgotten. Lol.
As for my theory on the third title. Mine is one not mentioned, the idea of being enjoyed by single players or small groups is telling as this lacked a massive multiplayer community, I would guess the next Wolfenstein as the third title.
Re: Xbox Series X|S Passes 20 Million Sales According To Latest Estimates
I can envisage a lot of Switch owners who wanted a next gen machine alongside it having gone for the S at its friendly price point too, really smart move going with the two models that.
Re: Microsoft Shows Frustration As Sony Fails To Respond To 10-Year Call Of Duty Offer
So much drama. We all know it will go through. Sony will have to accept an offer, stop whining and we can all go back to gaming and enjoying ourselves.
All a bit much of a muchness the big corp posturing. If the boot was on the other foot and Sony acquired EA (would never happen but hypothetical) MS would panic and moan the same way about Fifa.
Bottom line. Its all about money.
Re: Sony Reveals Xbox Game Pass Has 29 Million Subscribers, Admits New PS Plus Tiers 'Substantially' Behind
Nintendo meanwhile are just looking at the drama and shaking their heads.
Re: Jim Ryan Denies Sony Is Misleading Regulators Over Xbox's Activision Blizzard Deal
I have mentioned this before. And I appreciate its in an unrelated industry to gaming. But all the talk of Sony monopolising - Microsoft absolutely do the exact same thing elsewhere.
The whole big corp vs big corp bickering gets really old.
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Cinematic Horror Title 'The Devil In Me'
@pip_muzz to be fair I had to do a double take when I read it the first time!
Re: Roundup: Here's What The Critics Think Of Cinematic Horror Title 'The Devil In Me'
@pip_muzz Gamespot havent reviewed it yet.
While it would be hilarious if Ben was taking a dig by renaming them. Gamespew is a different site. Lol.
Re: 'Evil West' Runs At 1080P & 30FPS On Xbox Series S, 4K On Xbox One X
Puzzles me how it can hit 4k on One X and not Series S. Poor optimisation surely?
Re: Xbox Boss On Keystone Price Point: $99 - $129 USD Would 'Make Sense'
Would make more sense to partner with Amazon and get them on Fire Sticks.
Most who buy streaming sticks like that prefer AIO devices.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Adamant Call Of Duty Will Remain On PlayStation 'Longer Term'
Oh man, this will never end until it goes through will it? Getting so old now.
Re: Review: Somerville (Xbox Series X|S) An Engaging Sci-Fi Story Let Down By Dull Gameplay
These games are acquired tastes a little bit marmite so half expected this. Those who loved Inside and Limbo I would still think would get some enjoyment here even if not on the same level.
Re: Xbox Learnt From 'Shipping Games Too Early' When Delaying Starfield
@Kaloudz lazy response on my part but you have covered it all and agree so ill just say, second that.
Re: Microsoft Invests In Korean Blockchain Game Developer
@Kaloudz in a nutshell yep.
Re: Microsoft Invests In Korean Blockchain Game Developer
@Kaloudz Blockchain itself is hard googling its so open ended.
But in gaming terms. Essentially rather than just obtaining an item in a game and that item being limited to your use. You effictively own the item outright and can opt to sell/trade with other players and the game publisher takes a cut. Like an in-game ebay almost.
Its another way of forcing microtransactions on the basis it can actually make money for the player as well as the publisher, so understandably most gamers hate it, goes into NFT territory.
Re: Xbox Insists It's 'Not Taking Call Of Duty From PlayStation'
@redd214 agree. Both companies for different reasons have made this a drama we would rather forget.
We all know its going to go through in the end. Posturing just makes both parties look pretty stupid.
Re: Sony Could 'Respond' To ActiBlizz Deal By Improving PS Plus, Suggests Microsoft
Over the drama at this point. Deal will go through, the posturing gets old.
MS arent wrong in what they are saying but they overcharge in their other business areas themselves because they have a monopoly there. All the big corps do it in some areas so it is a little bit pot and kettle.
Re: 'Yakuza' Director Says Xbox Game Pass Helped The Series Grow
@Sakisa why would you want to open that can of worms? Haha.
Re: Don't Worry, The Callisto Protocol Will Have A 60FPS Performance Mode
Maybe I am being a bit too old school but all the obsession with resolution and FPS really drains me.
If the gameplay is good I will enjoy it. End of.
And yes. My happiest days were when blowing into a cartridge and putting it back in fixed everything!
Re: The Sims 4 Is Now Entirely Free-To-Play On Xbox
@bpomber I remember the old Sims console exclusive games. That were for the most part a disaster.
Sims 2 Unleashed felt like fun at the start. That fun lasted about 30 mins lol.
Re: Call Of Duty Will Be 'Restricted' On Xbox Game Pass, Confirms Microsoft
Its all a load of drama be glad when its all over and dust has settled.
Re: Xbox Activision Blizzard Deal Officially Approved In Brazil
I think this will go through regardless but the FTC, EU and CMA are the key ones to sign off on this as they are the biggest markets.
I think they will all approve it in the end and this is just a massive drama the media thrive off of.
Sony raising concerns is natural. Boot was on the other foot same thing would happen. But ultimately it will go through.