Bethesda Artwork Reveals First Mention Of Ghostwire: Tokyo On Xbox Series X And S

In my opinion, much better than Deathloop. Well worth a try on GamePass.

Haven't played this yet as the gameplay put me off as it looked too repetitive, but will definitely give a try when it comes to gamepass.

@fatalbubbles I just finished deathloop last night. I HATED at 1st cause I wanted it to play like dishonored. Dishonored is more stealth 1st fps 2nd. This is more fps 1st and stealth 2nd. Once I finally realized that and played it that way, it’s one of my fav games this gen. Amazing story telling putting it all together. Looking forward to ghostwire as well.

@Gr81 You’re not alone, some people love it. I for the life of me can’t get why people like it because I didn’t think it did a single thing well but it just wasn’t a game for me I guess.

It’s sad that xbox doesn’t have haptic feedback and force feedback. Will definitilly play it on
Ps5 at a discount instead of gamepass.

Whilst I don't think the combat is going to win any awards, I'd urge you to try the game. If you'd just like exploring an excellent rendition of Tokyo and looking at crazy Jap stuff, then this game is full to the brim of places to explore, items to collect and weird cultural oddities to enjoy.
I loved this game for the above reasons and I'm looking forward to it finally being on Xbox so that those of you who like weird jap things can love it too!

To be honest, neither Deathloop or Ghostwire appealed to me enough to warrant buying at launch on PS before we even knew Xbox was intending to buy Zenimax. However, as soon as I knew that Xbox would acquire these studio's and these games would be on Game Pass, I knew I'd never buy the PS versions.

In most PS games, I end up turning off (or at least reducing the intensity) of the Adaptive Triggers etc and the sound from the controller too. Haptic feedback can be OK but it doesn't really add anything to the game for me and more often than not, its a distraction, an annoyance and can get 'tiring' fighting the tension for several hours in a game. In any case, its not enough of a 'benefit' to me to 'justify' spending money to play on PS5 when I can play these for 'nothing' on Xbox. Even if they reduced the price to £10, I wouldn't pay £10 to 'upgrade' to PS5 versions so not paying £10 just for PS5 haptics...

Glad to see that it’s coming to Xbox soon!

@FatalBubbles 100% agreed. I feel their ratings were reversed. Arguably my game of the year with the Platinum along with it

Played a bit of this recently since it was half off for Halloween digitally. Much better than Deathloop imo.

@darkswabber say you like blowing on your controller without saying you like blowing on your controller.

@BAMozzy haptic feedback is a fanboy buzzword. Anyone who plays both seldom misses the gimmicks. I know i sure dont.

@VokDaWiibSlayer haptic feedback most definitely isn’t a fanboy buzzword. Anyone playing both knows it’s missed on xbox. I know I sure make buying decisions based on how well games implement it.

@darkswabber Only if EVERYTHING else was the same - the same content, price etc and the 'only' difference was PS5 haptics or Xbox, it still wouldn't persuade me to buy on PS5 specifically. It really depends on how well its implemented which either adds a bit more 'feedback' or becomes distracting, tiring and/or annoying. As good as it is in Astro's Playroom for example initially, I found it got quite annoying after a while...

I do agree that it isn't a buzzword as it does actually work as they say, although I wouldn't say it makes any significant difference to the game-play. I don't want/need to 'blow' on controllers or feel triggers with lots of tension to 'simulate' 200lb+ Bows as that gets tedious and tiring. The awful tinny speaker was awful on PS4 and no better on PS5 and I detest six-axis controls too so its NOT a given that I would pick the Playstation over Xbox based purely on the Haptics of each controller.

As I stated, I often turn the Haptics off or at least down as they actually distract me from the game as opposed to immersing me further. It makes me aware of the Controller more than what's going on. It could lead to something 'unique' like some puzzles where 'feel' matters (lock picking?) but I'd rather have 'hair' trigger guns/bows etc if I'm constantly firing a weapon because I don't want/need to fighting the increased tension etc over and over and over again when I am taking on hundreds of enemies in a session...

It has its place and could lead to some interesting game-play but for the majority of games, it doesn't really add anything and sometimes actually detracts for me.

@darkswabber There are others here that say the exact opposite of you, so obviously the haptic feedback isn't something everyone misses at all. But what difference does the haptic feedback make, how does it affect the gameplay for you, seeing you seem to enjoy it a lot?

@heksesang @BAMozzy sorry my response was a bit emotional to give an opposite extreme to the original extreme that it’s a fanboy thing.

But yeah I agree it isn’t for everyone definitely. My brother turns it off too because it’s very distracting for him and he has chronic issues with his hands.

To me and many others it’s just a bit of fun immersion that can range from “the controller tiptoes when you use the spider drone in spider-man, isn’t that absolutely cute?!” To “oh wow how awesome is it that the controller can rumble from individual points so it can emulate from which side stuff happens ingame, isn’t that awesome?!”

It’s definitely not for anyone but to me acting like it isn’t something that xbox would benefit from having too is just silly. Options are always better to have instead of going “most people don’t care so it’s a gimmick that isn’t missed by anyone”. I rather see it in the next xbox controller as a togglable option than xbox missing out on something both Nintendo and Sony are doing well.

@darkswabber As I said, it has its place and I 100% agree that its better to have and not want/need, than to want/need and not have. Options are always going to be better than no option.

Those things you may find awesome, another can find distracting or even a gimmick. How does feeling a controller buzzing in your hands have anything to do with the Spider drone for example - if you control a drone, you don't tend to get 'feedback' and as for what side something is happening, there is always visual and audio clues. I never struggled to determine where 'enemies' were before haptics with decent audio and/or good visual design too.

Like I said, it could be used in more unique and/or game-play focussed situations, maybe trying to 'feel' the lock when trying to pick it it instead or maybe for visually impaired gamers to play more games.

But in general, its not going to make a difference in deciding whether I play specific multi-platform releases on PS5 or Xbox. It won't make me want to play Deathloop or Ghostwire on PS5 for example just because Sony has better Haptic Feedback. Even with 'equal' cost, my first thought would be that I hope its not distracting, annoying/irritating etc.

So I don't necessarily think it is 'missed' on Xbox which does offer a more 'basic' and more subtle use of Rumble/feedback as it has Rumble triggers as well as standard 'rumble' in the hand grips. It doesn't always 'enhance' a game and can sometimes detract so its not something that is going to affect which platform I buy for and as your Brother turns it off too, for whatever reasons, it shows that its not 'additive' and more detractive for some and therefore not missed by 'everyone' on Xbox at all.

All I was trying to say is that for some, it certainly isn't worth paying 'extra' for, certainly not worth 'buying' on PS5 when you can play the game for 'free' on Game Pass without the level of Haptics on PS5 and could actually be 'distracting, annoying etc' and [almost] a reason to pick the Xbox version - I say almost because you can turn it off/down so it doesn't detract. As you say, it isn't for 'everyone' so if its only for a 'selection' of people, is it worth the extra costs? Maybe for some yes, but for others no.

Again, to reiterate, It maybe better to offer 'choice' and perhaps offer 'equality' so that more devs implement it well. However, Xbox games are designed now to work with virtually any controller, K&M and/or touchscreen controls due to the vast variety of devices they release on through Console, PC and Cloud enabled devices. Sony are really only making games for Playstation and DS5 - even if they 'eventually' get ported to PC.

I'm one of those people that one of the first thing I did with my PS5 is turn the rumble and haptic feedback the hell off. Gimmicks like that annoy me more than anything, and with the pain in my right shoulder and wrist, it would just aggravate those.

Still a fantastic game without that stuff.