If you haven't been following the God of War Ragnarok drama over the past couple of days, you may be totally unaware that there's been quite a lot happening on social media, and Producer Cory Barlog has been getting involved.
Basically, it had been rumoured that a date for God of War Ragnarok would be revealed on June 30th, but this ended up not being the case, and Barlog asked fans to be patient. Then, a Cinematics Producer on the game was harassed with inappropriate pictures, with Barlog reacting angrily and demanding people to "show some respect".
Xbox's Phil Spencer then weighed in on the situation, praising Barlog for his comments in response to a Twitter user placing the blame on journalists and insiders, after Barlog stated that "the answer is not to find someone to blame or focus hate on," but rather "treat the people that make the things we love with some human decency and respect."
Here's what Spencer had to say in response:
It's been a crazy little period for Barlog and the entire God of War Ragnarok team, then, and it's nice to see Phil Spencer publicly showing some support amidst the drama. It's not the first time Spencer has praised Barlog on social media, having had kind words to say about his leadership last year when Ragnarok was delayed to 2022.
Will you be playing God of War Ragnarok when it finally arrives? Tell us down in the comments below.
[source twitter.com]
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I love gaming; but I hate the community. The entitlement is sickening.
I mean it’s still Schrier who could not accept that someone else might had gotten a scoop he didn’t have about a likely delay, and decided to double down on his bad info. That guy can’t ever accept being corrected, and love to throw his oddly rabid followers into a frenzy over nothing.
This whole drama is sad.
Sadly leaks are part of the business.
It's how they manage them that calms the tides of rapid fanboys.
Really sounds to me like Sony want GoW: Ragnarok out during 2022, but they clearly aren't fully confident to put a flag down on a release date just yet.
I don't blame they either after the buggy mess Horizon: FW ending up being at release.
@blinx01
HFW was not a buggy mess, it had its flaws on release which I played and I’m still playing now with all the updates. I like to take my time.
And yes it is a lot better after the updates.
A buggy mess was Cyberpunk not HFW.
I am looking forward to playing it aswell, not really bothered if it's this year or next to be honest
I can't understand how someone could get actively upset over a rumored release date reveal date. News Flash: Rumors can turn out to be untrue!
Some folks always say they don't want to know anything about a game until it's almost ready and then go and get upset when a dev essentially says "Hey. We aren't ready to talk yet but will get back to you when we are ready." And again it was just a rumor that it would be revealed that day, not fact.
You can't have it both ways. Just have some patience and let them work. There is no excuse to act so entitled.
@Dezzy70
I meant more from a Sony first party point of view rather than a Cyberpunk level.
Sony are normally extremely good like Nintendo in terms of day one bugs and performance.
If you played Horizon: FW on launch, it had loads of bugs and they've only recently sorted the 60FPS mode, which was an eye-soar with all the visual shimmering.
U don't have the time or spare cash to have multiple consoles so unfortunately i won't be playing GoW as i switched to team green. I know it's coming to PC but i really don't enjoy playing on the PC, I'm a console simpoltan. But it's good to see the key figures in the industry telling people it's okay to play games on all platforms and you don't have to hate the other's to enjoy one.
And let's be honest....High on Life is what everyone wants to play. Cory is delaying GoW so he doesn't get overshadowed by it.
@blinx01
Sadly, there are tons of games out and many of them are gems, but instead of playing the games that are available, gamers and game journalists focus on the things that are coming over the things that are there.
There's something really wrong about gaming culture. Like, more really wrong than any other consumer culture. And it sucks because we get sucked into that. But there's just no other industry or hobby that has the kinds of dramas and reactions that happen in gaming. Not TV or film, not music or books, not fashion or food or anything else I can think of. IDK what it is, but the stereotype of gamers as some sort of backward undesirable childish rejects.....appears valid. Which makes me wonder why we're here.
@NeoRatt Well, the focus on what's coming instead of what's there is what the publisher's marketing departments has programmed people to do, so that part is their own creation. They want you looking at their upcoming limited supply $100 thing everyone else is going to have, not the discounted $30 thing they put out last year. So they bred this to a point. But violent reactions when they don't tell you when you can pay them for it the date some rumor monger told you to expect it is a different thing.
@Krzzystuff I can legit say if GoW and High on Life released the same day.....I'd play High on Life first. Even if GoW released to Extra day 1. How is that a debate? One has an ultra srs axeman in a dark and brooding world. The other has talking guns that insult you.
@Tharsman I still think of him as one of the Kotaku trouble stirrers and not actually someone from a real publication. After this I don't think that will change.
@GamingFan4Lyf In fairness it is not restricted to the gaming community, it's people on the Internet in general. I'm sure you've seen the meme of Mike Tyson saying that the Internet has made people way to comfortable about saying whatever they want and not getting punched in the face for it. Pretty sad when Mike Tyson is a voice of reason.
It's also the double-standard: gamers want games now, then bitch about incomplete products being released. I'm hoping Microsoft and others are changing things so that studios can complete their work before release.
@blinx01
I played day one and in quality mode so got away with the 60fps shimmering.
I play open world games very slow so got away with most bugs apart from one, which I had to go back to a previous save point and lost about 2 hours.
Now after updates the game and it’s structure is pure AAA gaming perfection and still surprises me as I continue to play through.
@Fenbops
The whole thing is really sad but so indicative of the world at the minute.
So much has gone on over the last few years it’s made the human race a worse race and showed some of the true colours of the human race.
Covid, Ukraine, cost of living crisis being the biggest 3 probably.
Most of us live a nice bubble and most survival qualities are good and there for us.
But as more of the human race full out of that nice bubble the more things get problematic.
An old saying, how long does it take to cause a mass riot?
About three good meals missed, then you have social unrest in your country and bang that’s it.
Both the gaming community and industry is to blame for this.
They spent years building up the hype marketing and console wars, to the point where releasing games wasn't just this collective event for the community, but a status symbol for the fanboys. There's also just the general push of FOMO for new content. Fans have been conditioned to feel a massive rush of excitement for releases, and massive wave of anxiety for delays. I think that anxiety manifests as anger towards developers.
Sony's entire business model is hinged on this. They wont put new games on their sub service because of the money that new releases generate. The PS fanbase is fully primed to drop £70 for every release to get that fix. Of course there's those that are feeling that anxiety now that their releases are slipping.
@Dezzy70 everything is worse. I wish media would stop making news stories using garbage Twitter as a source and reporting on what the likes of, Phil ‘I support the current thing’ Spencer, reply to. It’s become tiresome.
@Dezzy70 if your reasoning is that it wasn’t a buggy launch because there been buggier launches, then no game is buggy at all, because Big Rigs Over The Road Racing exists.
@Fenbops
The media or social media definitely fuel the fires of life at the moment.
@Tharsman
I think I said it was buggy but not a buggy mess.
And I said I found a bug and had go back to a save point. So definitely some bugs there.
But some make out it was terrible and it wasn’t.
I played day one and of course the patches for me have made the game and it’s structure perfect for me now.
@Dezzy70 I heard plenty of people claim they also beat Cyberpunk without any major bugs. Many reviewers even gave it perfect scores because of it.
There were quite a few “can’t continue the game” bugs fixed that made it impossible for players to resume, and these were reported on so it’s not just anecdotal.
I’m glad you had a great time and only met one progression blocking bug that forced you to only lose 2 hours.
@Tharsman
It was the only bug I came across but I played slow and it was early stages.
Then the patches started coming and I guess I’m about 40 percent through now and it all works like a dream now.
@uptownsoul
I know what you mean, like I put I did encounter one bug and of course the 60fps shimmering.
But I still only about 40 percent through and still playing. Of course with all the patches released now, it seems to be a perfect AAA.
Nice words from Phil. Next God of War in Game Pass?
@Dezzy70 what confounds me is that you are trying to tell us the game was not “a buggy mess at launch” because you “only” met a single preogresion-halting bug (not being able to finish a game is something many reviewers would use to flag a game as a zero, if it wasn’t pushed by a giant publisher,) and that was just somewhere within the first 40%th of the game.
@Tharsman
I can only say what I came across the one point bug where I had to go back to a save point and of course the 60fps shimmering.
Now I played slow and at about 40 percent now, but of course these patches have taken the bugs out.
So I have not experienced them.
That’s all I can say on my own bug experiences.
So maybe this is a result of my slow play through, which I do with open world games.
But definitely yes I agree there were bugs 🐞
@GamingFan4Lyf part of the issue is people/devs/companies respond which just encourages and perpetuates the community behavior. Which realistically is like, what, 0.1% of it anyway.
@Dezzy70 I'm with you on this one, I got HFW on release day and didn't counter any bugs, glitches or slowdowns, there was oroba ly a minority that did which people have overblown to attack the game.
Game is tied with elden ring for game of the year for me
@UltimateOtaku91
Not played Elden Ring so can’t comment on that one.
But so far HFW is game of the year for me.
Not much of a story, but im glad he will enjoy gow, im certa8nly looking forward to it.
Not sure why the debate turned into how buggy hfw was at launch? I played from launch and platinumed well before all the updates were rolled out. Like most games on release there were a few glitches that required patches, but nothing game breaking and it certainly wasnt a bug filled mess. It was maybe 10% as buggy as a typical bethusda game. 😀
I hope Starfield will break that trend, I really do..
@Titntin
Thank you and coming from you that means something.
I know you probably also see my negative comments towards Microsoft, but I just simply want them to do and be better AAA game wise.
Would I love a Halo campaign as big and beautiful and graphically diverse biome wise etc etc as HFW in the Halo Universe.
DAM hell I would and play it death and love every minute of it and praise Xbox to heaven.
It’s like they are sort of trying but not sort of trying
FH5 yes great effort and results produced.
Why can’t all their other AAA or when the new AAA games come out be at that level?
That’s what grinds my gears Xbox.
@MiGke
I have never played Elden ring so how can I comment on it, I don’t like the toughness.
I played blood bourne and demon souls remake and don’t get on with that type of game. Which is cool but they can still be amazing games that’s for sure.
I am saying HFW for me with all the updates now seems perfect for me, but not on release as it had bugs etc.
As for Xbox series s and x, in my local area Greater London there are plenty and sales seem very stagnant, so yes I’m still counting and for sure no they still not selling that well at all.
Then I’m not surprised, a year with no top AAA exclusives whilst the competition are a least trying will result in lack of interest and sales.
In the uk in my region any way.
Boxes are gathering dust on those shop shelf’s for sure 😂
@Dezzy70 I also played H:FW at launch and have no clue where this “buggy mess” stuff is coming from. Sounds like the vast majority of commentators here never had a problem on day 1; I’m wondering if the people claiming it was broken even played it at all, let alone at launch.
@EvenStephen7
There is probably some truth in that, just haters that don’t like PlayStation because they have big no new AAA games of their own to play.
I have all three consoles so I have no major fan boy preference.
If I had to rank since launch and including the switch, which is a bit awkward as been out a while.
But based on games released and quality.
PS5, sack boy, miles morales, returnal, ratchet and clank, HFW. G of T dlc. Not a gt7 fan or track racer fan.
Switch overall a close first to PS5, switch first year amazing but dropped big AAA in-house games for far to long now.
Xbox third, a very good FH5 and half hearted Halo campaign made for a generation or two ago looks wise, but good fps combat for sure.
@MiGke
I never said it was perfect at launch.
Yes it should have been delayed two months and become the game it now is, no disagreement there.
But now the state the game is in today it is perfect to me after all the patches.
Xbox console sales are at an almost stop in my region in the UK Greater London and they sit there for weeks on end not selling. Not new stock that takes a day or two sell, I mean a month and counting and not shifting off the shop shelf’s. My nearest local in a very built up area big population has sold one series s and one series x in about three weeks.
They need new AAA exclusive games some dam good advertising and PR and something to capture the general publics must have factor.
I would say they are even slightly now going backwards on pure gaming console situation acknowledgement and front of public mind in the game console world in the UK.
My nephews and nieces, general gaming public are Switch, phone for simple games and two are saving and wanting PS5.
Microsoft have not really made any roads forward in the UK, the only thing that has helped them is not themselves, a chip shortage and some luck.
And the luck is running out now.
Why is there so much opposition to this game? The community has done nothing but pressure it to be delayed constantly from the moment it was announced.
@NEStalgia
I like to think people have their own minds and can avoid being "programmed". Personally, until there is a firm launch date within 6 months of the launch date itself I don't take it seriously. Anything farther out is wishful thinking.
@NeoRatt I, also, like to believe unicorns exist.
Would be nice if they had a rule where you don't announce anything unless it's six months from release. Would save a lot of hassle.
@Dezzy70 HFW ran really well for me and I enjoyed it alot.
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