While it's true that Xbox often falls behind in Japan to native gaming brands like Nintendo and PlayStation, it hasn't stopped the American company from trying in the region. However, former Xbox exec Ed Fries wonders why Microsoft really bothers with its Japanese push at all.
In a recent appearance on the Xbox Expansion Pass podcast, Fries was asked about his opinion on "Xbox Failing In Japan". Fries is aware that Xbox is continuing to try and sell its platform there, but questions why.
"It's very tough to be successful in Japan with a foreign game machine, that's what I would say. Xbox has never been successful there, I don't think it ever will be, and the importance of the Japanese market isn't as big as it was back then... I think it's fine for Microsoft to focus on the rest of the world, I think they would have been better off if they did that sooner."
"Is something lost if you try and always fail? I mean, Microsoft just doesn't sell very many Xboxes in Japan. So, 'is the act of trying important' is kind of at the core of your question, is it important to just try? I'm not sure it is. If you're trying but nobody's buying what you're selling, maybe you should try something different."
"For me Elden Ring is the game of the year, it's incredible. I'm glad it's available on Xbox. But it isn't because we sold a lot of Xboxes in Japan that it's available on Xbox."
Ouch. We sort of understand Fries' angle here, Xbox is always going to struggle against Japanese gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo in that region. However, Xbox is gaining a bit of a foothold in Japan this generation — in part due to Xbox Series S — and the platform is faring better than it did for pretty much all of the Xbox One era.
How do you feel about Xbox in Japan? Should they continue to push there or focus elsewhere? Let us know your thoughts down below.
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I feel like this guy is still upset in a way with what went down and how he left.
Like Xbox has made headway in japan we have some game series that I never thought would hit Xbox
(I know there is still quite a few missing)
Not sure who this guy is but trying to gain marketshare in a key market for your business is kinda something one should be pursuing no? With the smaller series S and xcloud they clearly have their best chance at the moment. They are already going to be miles ahead of where they were last gen with hardware sales. But it's the Gamepass subscription that they are chasing, is GPU out on Japan/Asian markets already?
XB is doing better this gen then last gen in Japan (not saying that is great, because it isn't) by a few orders of magnitude. I think they should just keep slowly and steadily building there.
@Krzzystuff
The guy was the original person in charge of the Xbox platform like he did Phil's job before and for a bit after the launch of the original Xbox
And GPU, and gamepass PC or just console verison is available in quite a few Asian terriorties.
Xbox has been pushing GPU with a bunch of popular vtubers. That has been a pretty successful marketing campaign
He's right that xbox won't sell well in Japan, but at the same time Microsoft has to show interest in the Japanese market to get Japanese games on xbox, mainly for its western players.
Xbox will definitely never sell in Japan, but I think he's missing a key point that support for the Japanese market is important for buying support from Japanese developers and publishers, and Japanese games are an important component of the Western market. So even if they try and fail forever in the Japan market, they must always support sales in the Japanese market as a function of bolstering their Western market, against their primary competitors. Sony's softening to that market helps open that door, as well.
Plus, the news that Sony's new streaming subscription won't actually support PS5 games while Xbox's supports Series X games may be pivotal in Japan. The streaming market is going to become more and more critical there.
This guy, fries, has a loser mentality. "It's not gonna move the needle, so why bother." With his thought process and outlook, a lot of companies wouldn't have done anything, because what's the point.
I'm sorry Ed, but I just feel like you haven't been paying attention to Xbox or the industry at all.
Yes, he's a former Xbox exec and did a lot of great stuff for the brand when it was starting out, but holy hell he's clueless about everything going on right now.
Is Japan a place Xbox does super well in? No. Lifetime sales for the Xbox One in Japan were like 114,000. That's not very good. BUT! In less than two years, the Series S & X have sold more than 200,000 in Japan. That is an absolutely huge improvement! And, sure, stock availability has a lot to do with it but just last week we saw a report that for the first time since 2014 Xbox outsold PlayStation consoles sold for a week.
None of that includes the fact that more Japanese games than ever before are available on Xbox now, plenty of Japanese developers have shown interest in Game Pass, and, for the first time, Xbox owns Tango Gameworks. A Japanese studio! It's not monumental, enormous, multi-trillion dollar success by any means, but they're growing in Japan. There is literally no reason to think that it's a bad idea.
Ed, love ya, but geez you've been out of the game for too long, man.
It's important to have a presence there to get more Japanese games than just something like Resident Evil. Would From Soft be making games for Xbox if it wasn't available in Japan? I'm not so sure. I'd also say, however, a company with less disposable income, it's probably not worth it to try. MS has the money to have a presence in Japan so it's better to be there than not.
I feel like it’s been common knowledge for decades now…Japanese support Japanese. They’ll never favour a western console. People should look into just how they actual view/treat non Japanese in Japan… it’s quite the eye opener.
Tbh I don’t know why MS bothers. Why they haven’t set their focus more on China…which would work out bad for us but probably potentially make them more money than Japan ever will.
It’s something you have to build up to get traction. The Xbox 360 laid humble groundwork, but the Xbox One launch ruined all of that.
@Gamer83 We would probably still get From Software games. Their games sell well world wide, so it wouldn't have mattered if Xbox didn't exist in Japan. Xbox would probably also still get a bunch of mainstream Japanese games like Final Fantasy, Dragon Ball, Naruto... etc
Their presence there is to try and get niche Japanese games on the platform.
Seriously, who f'king cares about Japan? No gamers care that Xbox doesn't sell well in Japan. Why even write articles about it? Japan is hardly even relevant anymore other than JRPGs, which many gamers have no desire for anymore. Game industry Japan from 20 year ago is not the same as today. Xbox doesn't need Japan. It shouldn't even be a talking point anymore. They can keep their silly off the wall (and weird) games. I don't even want them on the Xbox. Now I sound like nationalistic Japanese gamers ripping on Western gaming, haha. Some tides have turned a bit.
@SpacemanJupiter everyone but you apparently. You not caring about eastern games appearing on xbox is fine an all, you're a demographic who looks elsewhere but that market is a HUGE CHUNK of the gaming industry. To have next to no support from it will have the platform** struggle incredibly (if last gen wasn't enough to show that) because if the consumer isn't expecting one of the the things they want then obviously they will not buy into the ecosystem.
This is not something you want. You want the industry to make for your platform because it will make western companies look at the platform as a potential case to sell their games globally.
Losing that market will hurt you getting what you want from the market you do want it from.
@Krzzystuff yes its out in Japan and its only ¥1100 per month thats super cheap
@TheArCadeBot also sony are backing out of Japanese game’s development too.
Krzzystuff wrote:
He led the original Xbox team, without Ed Fries Xbox never would have happened.
Regardless I'm kinda split on this. I agree that Xbox is unlikely to gain much market share in Japan and they would do better purely in terms of sales and market share to concentrate on other territories. But I also think Xbox having a presence in Japan does help them get developers on side and interested in working with Microsoft and Game Pass, which ultimately benefits us in others territories.
BTW if anyone is interested in the history of Xbox I can recommend Dean Takahashi's book Opening the Xbox and the Xbox Power On documentary (linked below to Ed Fries part)
https://youtu.be/AJYsA1jXf60?t=918
His knowledge seems to stop in 2004.
If we are talking about the Japanese gaming industry, we should know that some Western games such as Apex Legends and OverWatch are growing in popularity.
I respect Fries and I don't necessarily think he's wrong - Xbox is a niche product in Japan and always has been. The OG Xbox and 360 sold a couple of million each over there and to my understanding that wasn't enough to make back Microsoft's spend on titles like Tales of Vesperia's timed exclusivity and the cost of porting FF XIII to Xbox.
But, it's still an important market sector, even if its importance is waning somewhat in comparison to the US and Europe. The infrastructure and the base are there, it would be silly to stop now.
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