Psychological thriller Martha is Dead is heading to Xbox in a couple of weeks' time on February 24th, and it's now been confirmed that the Xbox and PC versions will be "unedited", while the PlayStation versions are getting some changes.
In a message posted on Twitter, the development team explained that the game "consists of potentially discomforting scenes and themes that may distress players", but insisted that they have "always been open and honest" about its content since the game was announced in 2019, and they're "regrettably" having to modify the experience on PlayStation. Here's a look at the full statement:
Since the announcement, a video clip has been doing the rounds on Twitter showing a particularly discomforting scene in which you're required to cut off the face of a dead person, which is certainly very violent and graphic.
The game itself isn't actually being described as a horror title but rather a "dark first-person psychological thriller" set in 1944 Italy, in which you set out to find out what happened to a woman called Martha who's desecrated body is found after being drowned. It's said to feature "a dark multi-layered narrative which blurs the lines between reality, superstition and the tragedy of war."
What are your thoughts about this? Let us know down in the comments section below.
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Not surprising. Nintendo even have a better record of censorship now compared to Sony. They also censored DMC5 a while back too. Crazy why people still support that company when it makes so many anti consumer moves time and time again.
@pip_muzz I've always said that Sony has the largest amount of, and the most brand loyal customers. It allows them to get away with all sorts of stuff.
@Royalblues I enjoyed SM:MM, though I think it being a shorter game probably worked in its favour.
Sony's £70 games, censorship and £10 upgrades all seem very consumer-friendly... They have also hidden the PS4 version of Horizon Forbidden West on the PS5 store so you can't get the free upgrade but the PS4 prequel is available on the same store.
@Royalblues I platted SM:MM in 2 evenings...
My intrigue went up a notch, so will be an Xbox purchase now.
@pip_muzz Nintendo learned their lesson from having 3rd party games censored.
But it seems Sony is following that footstep
@pip_muzz what company doesn't do anti consumer things & get away with it , square enix , konami , Activision , ubisoft , Nintendo , Microsoft , Sony , apple etc they'll all f*** over their customers to make a profit
@Banjo- That's strange as I can find it and on the mobile store, it's in the same listing with a seperate tab, one standard edition costing £59.99 and another standard edition costing £69.99 and a digital deluxe costing £79.99
I've played some games on playstation that included gore and debatable stuff such as Agony, the last of us 2, outlast 2 etc so I don't understand why this game is getting censored? I've seen the clip that they might be referring to which includes a woman's face being peeled off but the age rating is there for a reason.
@Medic_Alert well I suppose that they want to stop people ripping them off? It's obvious sony feel that if you have a a playstation 5 and going onto the PlayStation 5 store then you should buy the ps5 version instead of people abusing the system and getting it cheaper, even though I do 😋
As a business pint of view it makes sense, otherswise why even bother having a seperate playstation 5 version at all
Good on Xbox's part. Sony is hypocritical (TLoU2).
@pip_muzz So don't support Nintendo and Xbox with their $60 Gamecube ports and $120 xbox live attempt. Don't support any Publisher lol.
@Richnj Nope. That's Nintendo. No price drops, terrible online and full price ports (compared to $10 from Sony ps5 upgrade).
@UltimateOtaku91 I know you're a huge Sony fan but are you really going to argue for this?
https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/10/sony-is-hiding-a-cheaper-way-to-get-horizon-forbidden-west-on-ps5-16085442/amp/
UltimateOtaku91 wrote:
You are absolutely hilarious, hating everything Xbox and justifying anything Sony.
@UltimateOtaku91
Are you for real? I bought Horizon for $70 on purpose because I really loved HZD and wanted to support them (people buy Collection Editions for the same reason), but saying other people should also pay $70 it's insane and it's the other way around. Sony is being anti-consumer in this one.
@Medic_Alert I'm not saying it's worth £10 which is why they scrapped that upgrade cost, the ps5 version does have enhancements visually and controller wise though.
I'm just saying they should scrap having seperate lsitings and have one version with one listing that works on both the ps4 and ps5.
I mean if you bought the ps4 version physically then wanted the ps5 version physically later on you would need to pay way more than £10, and Sony aren't the only ones doing this as I believe EA and ubisoft are doing the same so Where's the equal backlash
@RevGaming I'm talking purely from a business point, Sony don't want playstation 5 owners to buy a playstation 4 version to save money but still get the better version, in sonys eyes the upgrade is for those who get it on ps4 and then get a ps5 later and still be able to play it
@RevGaming @Medic_Alert I'm not saying it's good that they do it and that I'm all for it, I'm just saying why Sony do it
@RevGaming Considering that Nintendo has had bad generations with the N64, GC, and Wii U, where the blind brand loyalty wasn't enough to carry through sales, but Sony can have the PS3 launch in the state that it did, and still sell extremely well, I stand by my assessment.
@Banjo- I'm not hating everything on xbox lol I'm just painting out why I see Sony doing this, but if that's your view on my fine as tbh that's my view on you as well always attacking sony on here putting them down any chance you get, and it's not just sony either Ive seen your comments on nintendo life and have nothing but bad things to say about them.
Hey so I can't actually find this game on the console storefront (xbox). Am i doing something wrong or have Microsoft quietly hidden this game? Just thought it would be available for preorder but even a search turns up nothing.
Edit: lol i see I'm clearly off topic nevermind.
@Medic_Alert I've mentioned in on pushsqaure before that sony should just have one listing for all the games that have a cross ps4/ps5 version and also the same goes for physical copies, just have one game case for games like this that say its compatible with both ps4 and ps5 consoles.it note that on ps5 it gets enhancements
@UltimateOtaku91 The ps4 version gives the exact same ps5 game for $10 less and they hide it. It's anti-consumer.
It's bad, regardless of being an usual biz practice.
@Medic_Alert well that's the problem, what price would they charge, preferably £60 as at the moment I can't see why anyone would pay £70 if they can get it £60. They might learn that from this game as they will have the data and hopefully they will see more people buying the ps4 copy but more people actually playing on playstation 5
@UltimateOtaku91 Don't reply to Banjo. Look. You're making very fanboy-ish statements and Banjo is another fanboy, so just stop replying to each other honestly. You both are just making it worse for yourselves. You both look bad.
@RevGaming my original comment was meant to be how Sony see this not me, I didn't mean I see people ripping sony off I want to be clear on that as I myself do the same thing by buying the cheaper version, I'm just saying from sonys point of view they are think why bother having two seperate versions that will make us lose out on money so let's do what we can to limit the sales of the ps4 version which yes you are correct is ant consumer.
I even encourage people at work and online to buy the ps4 version physically for £51 online instead of paying £70 for the ps5 version digitally and save yourself £19, that's what I've done anyway
@UltimateOtaku91 Ok. My bad. Glad it's clear now.
Any game like this that Sony censor, I’ll play on Xbox instead. Simple really. Their loss.
Also this has been great publicity for the game, fair play devs even if that wasn’t your intention.
@thenewguy 😂 same pretty much. Completed it over a weekend then did the 2nd play through in a couple of hours one morning. Total playtime was like 11 hours.
Ratchet was pretty much the same. Returnal and Demons Souls have been the games really worth my time for the plats and I just got Deathloop finished last night, but that’ll be winging it’s way to Gamepass before long so I sort of regret that purchase!
A game like Martha Is Dead — and the overwhelming majority of games for that matter — should not be censored. Parents should be given the tools necessary to regulate their children's access to video games, and everyone else should be given the tools necessary to determine for themselves if the game is a good fit for them. And if that's not enough for a company — Sony in this case — they should foster discussion and critique of the game, not censorship.
@RevGaming MS had like 9 360 games with a Metacritic score above 90. Sony had 10. It's hardly the stark difference fanboys like to portray (and I don't care enough to count the games beyond that point). So I'd be careful about throwing out the blind fanboyism claim. A vast majority of high quality games were multiplatform games.
Not sure how them not making money is proof they didn't have 90m unit sales vs 85m, and a higher attach rate per console. If they didn't make money, it's because of how poor they ran their business at the time.
I remember way back When Mortal Kombat came to console. The SNES version looked the best but they removed blood an changed tha fatalities so i bought the Megadrive version.
It's funny how Sony just changed their censorship stance just out of the blue one day, it stared with anime games by censoring anime characters which showed too much cleavage and games like senran kagura which nobody asked them too and it's not the law to do so either since Nintendo don't censor their games, but then again xbox didn't allow the latest galgun game on their system at all so maybe its an American thing? Since sony is now more based in the states.
Its a strange one as sony pretty much own the western anime market and they dont censor those so why censor anime games?
So would like to hear from Sony themselves as to why they censor some games and not others and what's the point of age ratings
RevGaming wrote:
Says the guy that tried to convinced me 10 times in a row that Sony's games are great and that Xbox games suck not long ago🤣. At least, I don't hound you and force you to think like I do. That thread proved that not only you are the biggest fanboy around but you also are disrespectful.
So you came to Pure Xbox, tried to convinced me that PS games are great and Xbox games suck, I disagreed and I'm the fanboy. Tell me what do you want me to do next time and it will be quicker.
@UltimateOtaku91
UltimateOtake91 wrote:
I don't go to PushSquare to hate Sony but you come to PureXbox on a daily basis to hate Xbox and Phil. There are many things I dislike about Sony and because I have a PS4 and have bought their games, I feel free to say them, like anyone else. There are some times I praised first-party games made by them, I mean, by teams that they have acquired as the cruel entity eating smaller fish that they all are. Of course, you never reply to that. And if you mean that I go to Nintendo Life to only say bad things about Nintendo, you are lying.
EDIT: Sorry to everyone else.
I see these sony x censorship articles pop up from time to time and can't help but think it's a bit overblown lol. I agree with everyone saying they shouldn't because there's already an age rating (though some publishers do sneakily get past that on the other hand). Maybe I'm don't play enough of those anime games 👀
@Banjo- been an interesting read tbf so thanks for that. Do wanna point out it's Horizon Forbidden West and not Forest, though you probably know that.
@Banjo- woah careful mate you’re arguing with 2 of the greatest minds that PS have to offer. I’m afraid you’re out of your depth 🤣
Sonys censorship is all over the place, if you’re a smaller Japanese Dev showing a bit of anime side boob then god help you. Sony are coming to cover them up.
Before I even clicked on this I knew the fanboys would be out. As boring as you are predictable.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this is a publicity stunt as people are talking about a game they otherwise wouldn’t be.
When you have a closed and controlled platform, such as Sony and their Playstation platform, then they have a right to determine what they (Hypocritically and commercially) for their own benefit - want to Release on their own platform, what they want their audience to see etc.
It's Hypocritical though that if you want to come and play some of the most violent and horrific games - they'll sell you the Last of Us 2 but censor their competition's creative 'right' to 'disturb' its target audience as it clearly 'intended' for a horror game but go all out for Naughty Dog's right to depict shocking violence and disturb its target audience...
Still my PS5 has some 'good' exclusives to blow out the cobwebs every now and then...
@Cherip-the-Ripper That reminds me of other games I type wrong sometimes even ones I play often like Forza "Horizontal". Sometimes it's the auto-correction on the phone but this time it was my fault. I'm glad that you enjoyed by self defence mechanism 🤣.
@Fenbops tbf I play pretty much 90% of jrpgs that come to playstation and most are anime styled games and they still contain bikinis and side boob clothing etc, it's just when characters are subject to sexual behaviour like in senran kagura games you can touch girls parts etc this is mainly because sony believe anime characters are portrayed as 14-16 years olds and believe its morally wrong, to which there is a big debate between gamers on that for different reasons.
But in no way should sony be censoring gore or violence especially in a 18 rated game, cinema and TV series don't cut gore from 18 rated films so neither should it happen in games
@Fenbops That's right 😁. I don't have problem with fanboys per se and I might be one in a positive way (as Ioving Xbox) but it's hilarious when they call you fanboy in a negative way and suggesting that it's impossible trying to talk with you after hounding you and trying to convince you on an Xbox site that you are wrong because Xbox sucks and PS games are infinitely better, or after lying about what you do on other sites, respectively.
EDIT:
From another thread... as context and for your entertainment:
Banjo- wrote:
RevGaming wrote:
@Banjo- I don't come here on a daily basis to hate on xbox either, I enjoy my series S and have nothing against xbox games and I don't think I've said a bad word about xbox exclusives apart from halo infinite.
I will admit the only things I've "hated" on is Phil for his hypocrisy (which I won't go through again) and the way Microsofts operates in the gaming industry which again I'm not going to talk about that again.
In terms of the actual xbox brand and its games I have no problem with, I have never come here saying X game is crap and the console is crap, or bashed its controller and so on.
Sony outNintendo's Nintendo 🤦🏻♂️
That seems predictable based on console demographics.
Ick not a good look for Sony. Especially after TLOU2 has some scenes of equal violence on display. Ratings boards are there for a reason Sony let them do their job.
I could do without a game that includes cutting off a dead person's face; that sounds grotesque. Shame it's happened so close to release though, but I guess getting approval is the last step on a multi-platform release.
Not usually up for censorship, but I feel without the context of exactly WHAT is being censored it's difficult to have a good take here. There's always some things that shouldn't be allowed.
The studio can talk about being "always open and honest" but that is in itself vague. We're none the wiser.
That face slicing clip is there for shock value, does it add to the experience or is it just twisted gore porn?
@themightyant "does it add to the experience or is it just twisted gore porn?"
The problem here is Sony's hypocrisy as The Last of Us II is gore porn.
Personally, I'm not a fan of extreme violence in video games.
@Banjo- I've not played TLOU2 yet so can't judge. But that face slicing clip was the most extreme thing i've seen in a video game.
While I don't like censorship I think one of the considerations is we know that MANY kids play these games and parents often don't adhere to ESRB or other ratings as much as they should.
Personally I don't think kids should be watching something that extreme, it normalises it. But that's just my view, room for other opinions.
@themightyant Same can be said about anything in this brutal society. Parents are responsible for them. I wouldn't let my children do whatever they want... if I had them.
@Banjo- Sure but I don't think it should be 'anything goes' just because there is an ESRB rating. E.g. there were games on Steam about shooting in a high school, I think most would agree that was over the line. And for me that face slicing video is also.
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