Former SEGA of America president and Xbox head Peter Moore was a guest on the Xbox Pioneers: Creativity & Innovation panel earlier this week, and spoke a little bit about the legacy of the doomed SEGA Dreamcast.
Moore has always talked about his fondness for the console, and mentioned during the discussion that the SEGA team had already stablished a strong relationship with Microsoft at that time, as the Dreamcast utilised a Windows operating system (CE). This led to SEGA and Xbox developing a rapport pretty early on:
"We had started to build a rapport with [the Xbox team] and started to bring together the two consoles with the synergy of online being the real key, and this concept of social gaming, which — and no disrespect to the Nintendos and Sonys at that time — but they were still seeing it very much as you versus me, boys in the bedroom on the couch."
Moore went on to admit that the Dreamcast was ahead of its time and ultimately lost out to the PlayStation 2, but the "baton was passed to Xbox", with SEGA also choosing to collaborate with Microsoft as a third-party publisher.
And ultimately, Moore believes that the Dreamcast's legacy still lives on with Xbox today:
"The Dreamcast was ahead of its time and it sadly didn't quite make it in the face of the impending PlayStation FUDing — fear, uncertainty and doubt that came along — and they did it brilliantly. But as the Dreamcast unfortunately faded into the sunset, the baton was passed to Xbox. We started to collaborate... and we started to bring content to the Xbox."
"I think that the next few years, as we started to take off with Xbox Live and believed in this idea of online gaming together... there's still a little bit of a legacy of the SEGA Dreamcast in there somewhere."
Do you agree with Moore's comments? Let us know your thoughts down below.
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Sega Dreamcast was awesome
Dreamcast is the only console I'll never sell.
The interesting thing is Sega can kind of be associated with both Sony or Microsoft depending on who you ask. The Dreamcast connection works for Microsoft plus Shenmue 2 and Jet Set. But then last gen Sega was a huge developer partner for Sony with the Yakuza series finally getting the recognition it always deserved with 0 and in my opinion the best game of the generation Persona 5.
Sega has certainly had their problems but there's not denying that they also can put out some of the best software out there.
@Korgon over the last few gens I'd say atlus have been sega's saving grace (apart from valkyria chronicles)
Loved Dreamcast-Jet Set Radio, 2K sports, and Soulcaliber. My roommate had one at launch and it felt like a real leap from N64 and PS1.
@UltimateOtaku91 I’d say RGG has been Sega’s saving grace, but Atlus has been good too.
@UltimateOtaku91
They were definitely a great pickup for them. Valkyria Chronicles is great too. Yakuza has also become one of Segas biggest franchises too though
Dreamcast, what a legendary console.
I adored it and still do 😍
I love.the Dreamcast. I will admit I never owned one during its life cycle, but I was able to buy a couple from my local Goodwill and after buying a few games from my local retro gaming store I was hooked. Such a great console and was just ruined by poor marketing.
The dreamcast is still probably my favourite console ever. Powerstone, crazy talisman, sonic adventures sega rally, shenmue, skies of arcadia, jet set radio the list is endless
That’s actually what got me into Xbox was this. Dreamcast was my favorite system and I saw all these awesome sets exclusives headed to Xbox including shenmue 2 so I had to buy an Xbox. Been team green ever since.
One of the best (or THE best) consoles for fighting games and arcade ports ever. The "spirit" of the DC definitely went on in the Xbox and 360.
@Carck well that was just my view which is mainly impacted by the fact I love rpg/jrpg games, other than sonic (which I hate) and yakuza what else do sega do? Balan wonderland was awful as well
No, nobody? Ok, then: bring Persona to the Xbox, already X)
Now seriously, do you guys think this'll ever be possible?
@UltimateOtaku91 not counting Altus, they have older rpgs such as Shining Force, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star, Monster World, and Sakura Wars.
Valkyria Chronicles is their current JRPG series, which is really good.
confession: this is literally why i bought an Xbox in the first place 20 years ago. i LOVED my Dreamcast, probably more than i've ever loved a system outside of maybe the SNES, and it's damned close. i was devastated when it failed, but i bought the Xbox because some of Sega's games made their way there, and because i was still mad at Sony lol. Metropolis Street Racer, Panzer Dragoon, Jet Grind Radio, it really did feel like an extension of Sega's last system.
Now if we could get the Persona games, a new Panzer Dragoon, have them finally buy Sega and release a Dreamcast themed Series Controller, that would be just fine lol....
@Whybox drool Shining Force.....
@OldgamerDave i'm holding out hope. knowing Microsoft, there won't even be any big announcement, just a quick trailer lol
@Carck amazing just how well Sega adapted and recovered after Dreamcast sadly failed.
Would love them to get back in the hardware space one day but I do think they are better off where they are now and that game list proves it.
@UltimateOtaku91 hating Sonic is subjective though. Atlus certainly hasnt been their saving grace overall commercially, they have done so much more than JRPGs that have been successful.
@Carck ah i see I'm not a pc player so missed those games, didn't think they made that many games, only ones I've played are Persona, SMT, Valkyria Chronicles, Bayonetta (thought was platinum) and Yakuza.
Sega also has Puyo Puyo, which is still going strong.
Maybe it could live on in the form of a Dreamcast classic mini ? I'd buy one , just saying
Please make Sega's many Xbox exclusive titles compatible.
That’s pretty much why I went from Dreamcast to Xbox instead of PS2. It just felt like a Dreamcast sequel. Love that thing.
Dreamcast was amazing, playing chu chu rocket on line. Games were great just too expensive to create games for developers. Some amazing games in it
The strange thing is, I don't associate Sega with either Xbox or Playstation. I see Sega more closely tied to Nintendo now than the others.
How's about some back-compat Dreamcast and Saturn eh Sega?
Can't imagine no one would buy 10$ versions of:
-Panzer Dragoon Saga
-Burning Rangers
-Virtua Fighter
-Power Stone
-Skies of Arcadia
-Soul Calibur
Definitely forgetting a few, but you get my drift.
I think this explains a lot on why I became such a big fan of Xbox. I was a Sega gamer growing up and Sega games really shaped my taste in video games. Xbox always felt like the spiritual successor to them.
In fact you could say Gamepass is simply an evolution of Sega Channel, Microsoft bringing that concept back. It's what I grew up on!
I always felt this way too, so much so that the recent approach to buy Nintendo baffles me, why would they not instead attempt to buy Sega? They were already working so close together, with Windows CE as the OS for the Dreamcast and, eventually, exclusives like Shemune 2, and Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Ortha and Otogi.
There is also a lot of parallel in the controllers, even if accidental.
Still feel MS could had gotten away with murder if they managed to make some deal to call the next Xbox something like The XBox Dreamcast or the Sega XBox.
Yeah are Soul Of Dreamcast inside Xbox
Shemune 2, Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Ortha and Otogi 1/2 House Of The Dead 3 Crazy Taxi 3... that's why We Love XBOX
100% agree, I have always viewed the OG xbox as the sequel console to the Dreamcast.
I think that Nintendo should become third party like Sega and focus on software development.
@BlueOcean I think the 92 million Switch consoles sold is a reason Nintendo doesn't need to go software only.
@Hordak Sure but I'm not talking as a stockholder but as a gamer. If Nintendo focused on software they'll have more time for software development, the software would run better because it would not be hampered by the dated hardware and we would save a lot of money not having to buy dated and overpriced hardware and expensive low-quality controllers.
@BlueOcean I see your point, however I have personally never once had an issue with Nintendo hardware. I have had complete system hardware failures from Sega (once), Sony (once), and Microsoft (four times) in the 37 years I’ve been gaming, so by that logic, they are the ones who should focus on software, right? Also, the Series X and PS5 are already running outdated hardware so technically their software is being hampered by it as well.
We need to all stop drinking the “more powerful systems = better games” koolaid. I was stuck in that camp for years before I realized it was dumb and fun games are fun games. A brand new system does nothing to keep me from enjoying Pac-Man every time I see it in an arcade because the power of that Arcade board is meaningless.
Always remember when I picked up my Dreamcast, that was a great day. Got it mid 2001 when the writing was already on the wall for the system. I purchased Sonic Adventure, Crazy Taxi, House of the Dead 2 and Soul Calibur with it. I was utterly amazed with it, and couldn't fathom that the system was on the way out. I made the most of it and quickly built up a library of 30+ games. I've slowly added to it over the years to have 67 games for it now, I still plan to pick up a few more.
A console I will never sell!!
@Hordak I can't say I agree with anything you said, especially defining Series X as dated hardware ("Also, the Series X and PS5 are already running outdated hardware so technically their software is being hampered by it as well") like the Switch certainly is. But it's fine, we don't need to agree.
@BANJO My friend got mine, the first games I played were Resident Evil Code Veronica and Jet Set Radio. Now that I think about it, I played a lot of Sega and Sony games because of my friends, I only had Nintendo.
Even though objectively there are consoles with an overall better, more solid library of games, the Dreamcast is still probably my favourite console ever. Certainly the one I have the most fond memories of, along with the N64.
As a teenager I remember being astounded by suddenly having arcade perfect games in my bedroom. DC games looked amazing with the VGA adapter, and still do tbh.
It probably helps that Shenmue is my favourite game ever
Even though it was quite flawed, I was blown away by Sonic Adventure too, and really enjoyed playing it at the time. It was a great launch title.
As someone else said above, it seemed like a massive step up from the PS1 and N64, arguably more than any other generation since.
@BlueOcean It's interesting to know. My first console was a Master System with Sonic The Hedgehog installed..I got Ecco The Dolphin and Strider shortly after...
@BANJO I loved the Sonic games on Mega Drive and Master System as well! I mean, 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles and 1 and 2 (MS).
"Silver" for the Dreamcast was the reason I pushed to get the system after the rentable one at our local grocery store video department was never returned.
Still one of my favorite RPGs, I wish my Dreamcast and games hadn't been stolen.
@BlueOcean Same here, the Master System was my first console. I remember it having Sonic installed with it. Sonic 1, 2, 3 all great games.
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