Xbox Reveals New 512GB & 2TB Seagate Expansion Cards For Xbox Series X|S

$400 is a joke lol. But when you don't have competition you can charge what you want I guess.

The best thing that will come out of this though, is getting two new NVMEs we'll be able to buy for a lot less and just use the third party adapter.

I have two 1 terabyte expansions. I should be good for awhile.

As much as I’d love the 2TB option and I spend heavy on tech, $400 is a big nope for me.

I’d be shocked if there is enough demand at that price to even be worth a production run for them.

I'm thinking of just not buying a Series S|X, getting the $400 expansion card and saving myself $100.

2TB, I'll be snapping one of those up. The 1TB internal drive really isn't big enough, and I'm too lazy to keep swapping games between internal and external USB drives.

I would love the 2tb (and will certainly need it, looking forward to the lifetime of the machine), but $400... Ouch! I just can't do it.
When it gets to 250 for 2tb, then maybe... But I'm guessing that won't be for a few years (and I'll need the storage much sooner).

I would love MS to make a commitment to future consoles (the future gen, not just any intermediate gen) having a port for these cards.

It's a lot of money, but it's also unnecessary. Are people really playing 10-30 games at a time?

The exorbitant cost of this proprietary storage has just taught me that shuffling things in and out of my SSD is really not that bad so now I will never buy an expansion even when prices drop. I can't be alone. They played themselves.

Ooo 2TB, nice. Will wait for 4tb at a 75% discount

What will the cost be in GBP?

@antstephenson that's a GREAT point. If Microsoft were able to assure us that the next Xbox will use these cards, that would be a huge plus.

They will probably not do that lol

Jeez - I am not spending $400.00 on an expansion card. That was nearly the price of the Series X itself. I've been meaning to pick up the 1TB expansion, but the price is still pretty steep. Hopefully, it'll go on sale with the release of these two new options.

I seriously do not need that amount of space. For me, the internal 1TB of Series X is more than enough. I always have around 300GB of free space. If I ever need one of these, the 512GB one (with a price drop, 99$) would be an attractive option for me. The prices of these SSD storages remind me of the absurd prices of Sony's PS Vita memory sticks.

There we go as predicted.
512gb and 2tb joining the 1tb
Options now available
Some will still moan 😂

The 1tb goes on sale, quite frequently at around $185. So probably grab one at a price cut, down the line

@themightyant yea that's why I don't think they will. I don't see myself paying this much for a glorified memory card lol

@RBRTMNZ the overall attach rate will be pretty close to 1 per console in the end, they'll be fine lol

@themightyant
Yep, the understanding would be that the Seagate port could run series X (and earlier) games... and whatever new port they add could play the future gen.
Unless they were able to make a port that could take the old card AND could pull off whatever the future standard is.

In terms of UK pricing, expect them to just change the $ sign to £.
The 1TB card retails for $219.99 in the US before tax. It's £220 RRP here in the UK, although regularly on offer here for less than that.
I managed to get the 1TB card a few weeks back from Amazon for £150, which to me is a fair price.

I'll stick with HDD's SSD's are too expensive for me

Thank goodness a 2TB!

Oh wait.?!? Same price as console?!? GTFO!

I like the idea of the 512. It's half way reasonably priced. The 2 TB one is insane at that price point, really should have been 300.

@armondo36 yes I know the trillion dollar company will be fine. They'll be fine if they never sell another Xbox. That doesn't mean that it is untrue that this could have turned people away from storage expansion by presenting an option so expensive that people learned to go without.

Looking at the price tag & storage availability, I'm glad Sony went with the 3rd party SSD expansion route. Yes Microsoft's implementation is simpler than Sony's but it is not like the upgrading the PS5's SSD is complicated in the first place. Wished Microsoft followed Sony but oh well, there is always next time.

2TB nice, nearly half a grand....yeah not so nice. The price we pay for nvme 4.0 being so new.

@Darylb88
Current exchange rate is £289

@everynowandben
Exactly this.
I’m fortunate in that I have 250mbps internet speed so download and delete/install regularly but even if I didn’t your point is bang on.

I avoided Sony Memory Stick products during their reign (cameras, Vita, PSP) and I will avoid this one as well. Takes a few minutes to transfer games from the external to the Series X SSD so that is the road I will take. Plus I can take the dog for a short walk while that is going on.

@leathco Seriously $300 would be perfect. It's a price that would get people thinking 'if I just pay $100 more I can get twice the memory!' But now it's pay twice as much to get twice as much.

Woof. That storage costs almost as much as a Series X, and significantly more than a whole Series S. That's just a terrible joke. Additional vendors when?!

Part of me guesses these are priced for "Black Friday Savings" at the start.

@themightyant "average consumers" don't buy $400 drones they use a few times. People spend wastefully, sure, but there's a threshold there that's "toys for rich boys", and as the world population keeps doubling every 10 years, there's ever more rich boys buying them, even if the percentage of the total population that qualifies remains static or shrinks. It's a distortion effect on statistics that shows high luxury purchases is accelerating, even when it reflects a shrinking percentage of the market total that's positioned to purchase.

Great feeling for the market MS! This is only 30% more expensive than it should be.

I remember that @themightyant told me on a thread that this wouldn't make sense because of price but since the beginning @Dezzy70 and I knew there would be two new options at the same time, 500GB and 2TB.

It's pointless to judge the price of the 2TB option, it's not necessary and only people willing to spend that money will pay but the choice needed to be there. I haven't bought the 1TB option because it is too little and the console only has one slot for memory cards but I will consider the 2TB card when I'm ready to pay the price or when I find a good deal, whatever happens first. 3TB is decent storage for the whole generation if you are willing to delete and download (I assume that the next console will use these cards, too). This kind of memory is top-notch so we can't compare it to having a cheap external 4TB HDD for Xbox One, something I decided to keep for my Series X.

TL; DR:
Yes, it's expensive but not necessary. Having the option is wonderful and it might be cheaper in the future 😉.

I'll be waiting for at least a 50% drop in our ce before i consider getting the men card. The cost benefit isn't there for me, i have unlimited internet so I'll just delete and install as necessary. They did say that lore suppliers would be coming so I'm hoping that next Christmas we will see some more competition and price drops.

I know the tech is expensive but the lack of competition isn't helping. I imagine that the semiconductor shortages are effecting SSD memory supply chains? That a thing?

@RBRTMNZ You aren't alone, I like the ease of use of these cards but I'm not paying that much just for storage. Would rather use my external hdd

I can redownload and delete for €399 no problem! In fact, every time I do I'll remember how much cash I'm saving haha. It's all on GamePass not my storage drive

im perfectly fine with a 5tb usb drive and just moving my current games to internal to play them and keeping everything else stored on the 5tb usb

I see an adapter coming in the near future. There are already ones that have been mentioned. However the prices are actually competitive. It isn't the cheapest possible option. But, if you actually get a NVME card for PS5 with a heatsink (which is recommended, and especially considering how hot PS5 runs with it's factory overclocked CPU), it's still comparable. This isn't an issue yet for me as I use a standard SSD for all the current gen/previous gen games that are compatible with it. But, I hope, with all the games coming next year, that I can see more options available by next fall.

@themightyant Slightly misleading. The growing proportion of people is coming from different markets with new found upper/middle classes. The number is quite shrinking in formerly wealthy countries as costs for non-luxuries soar and consume ever greater portions of permanently stagnant incomes. A hundred million out of a billion Chinese can skew how much of an expensive thing you can sell to newly minted rich folks from a business perspective, but in the US, UK, Canada, excluding those newly minted rich Chinese, etc. that moved there, the number is really receding heavily.

The US market in particular is dramatically bifurcated, with the top third gaining more disposable income than ever before and accounting for almost 100% of retail growth, the middle third receeding slowly backward as costs consume stagnant wages more and more, and the bottom third for the first time (post 2008) with negative disposable income. And that was BEFORE the pandemic butchered it further. The real pain from that is just coming ahead soon.

It's really split into "people that make six figures, and everyone else" with two incompatible societies like a true caste system. Even ignoring the bottom third and lumping it all together with the middle. That's all unfolded in the past decade or so. So I wince when I see the statements of how much luxuries people are affording. It's a very skewed view representing really only the top third of the marketplace. It's also why I think xCloud has a far brighter future than the average game enthusiast gives it credit for. The premium games are missing 66% of the market.

Likely a 512gb for me, depending on UK price
That'll be enough to keep me ticking over and make me feel I've done enough without paying too much (hopefully 99 gbp?)

@Trmn8r Yes, it's roughly the same as PS5 SSDs with heatsink but simpler and more compact. I guess this is a moment when both technologies are expensive and people have to decide if it's time to buy or not. The expansion cards are a better idea than removing the PS5 plates and install yourself but for now I can wait and use fibre internet and a 4TB HDD that I bought for the Xbox One. Also as @NEStalgia said, even if we are not poor we might want to reconsider some luxuries after what has happened recently. Or spend that money on games or Game Pass.

@everynowandben Since you have to download most of a lot of games on an Xbox for some unknown reason, people wanting to keep games in "storage" rather than delete and then re-download when you want to play it again isn't ridiculous. It's definitely a must for me given that I have to have DSL internet.

Also, since Microsoft is incredibly lazy with their compression in comparison to Sony and the PS5, some games are larger than they really need to be. Then updates sometimes being 3 or 4 times the size of

Before anybody jumps on me for the Sony/Xbox compression comparisons, I'm just stating a fact and not looking to start an argument. Say what you will about Sony, but the Kraken compression for the PS5 is a borderline marvel, with some updates being well over two times smaller on there. That's really nice. In other words, if their compression was better and games were smaller, you could get by with a smaller amount of storage.

Comparing the PS5 options to the 500GB you get twice the storage for same price (512g here at $140 while found £130 for 1TB PS5 on amazon) but did notice a 4TB drive for £780!!! That's just crazy but can only imagine what the Xbox 4TB storage will cost! Like others have said it reminds me of the Vita days when those storage cards were rediculously priced and never really came down in price.

@KilloWertz I have read that it's not thanks to Kraken nor Sony because Xbox have an equivalent (that it's up to developers and not "lazy" Microsoft to implement) but I don't remember who explained this really well. Basically, optimised games for Series X/S are not "updated" but the new-gen version replaces the last-gen version. It's not a huge patch, it's a new version. Many games on PS5 run as patched PS4 games. If I find the article/comment I'll paste it here.

@Xiovanni The issues you and others have downloading games and that kind of stuff, I have realised recently that it's when your storage is almost full. When it's almost full, an error often occurs (in between all those "install anyway" dialogues) and you have to re-download things manually. The best solution is to free the required space for a game before downloading it. In short, if you want to download a 50GB Series X/S game, make sure you have 50GB free on your internal storage/expansion card. I have never had an issue this way.

@BlueOcean Honestly, it has to be because of Sony and their technology because a lot of games are smaller and patches that get released are sometimes significantly smaller on the PS5. I was referring to actual patches, like for Assassin's Creed Valhalla (frequently under 10 GB on PS5 and well over 20 on Series X), not new game versions.

So, it seems there was just a misunderstanding there.