Xbox Lockhart Spotted Again In Official Dev Documentation

I really hope the 4 teraflop doesn’t turn out to be accurate. A 8 teraflop console with the same number of computer units at the PS5 but running at Xbox Series X clocks and the CPU running at the same lower frequency as that in the PS5 would probably be an attractive cost saving. But if they cut too far it will affect the scope of what is possible and hold the whole platform back.

@Ryall I don't think that after creating the most powerful console and willing to undercut Sony's console, something made by Microsoft would hold Series X back, whatever Lockhart is. Lockhart is very intriguing, anyway. I can't wait to see what the heck it is.

@Ryall While I hope lockheart doesn't exist, if it's just a lower spec version of the same hardware, it might not affect too much.

For example, the same CPU just running slower clock speeds and a GPU with lower clockspeeds or CUs. Not low enough to force design changes. Think of it this way, both would be powerful enough to run next gen games, but the lockheart would be at low settings while the X would be high settings. All with the same game design intact.

@Menchi Something like current-generation games running on Switch but much easier to do because Switch is based on a technology (Nvidia mobile) that is different from Xbox One and PS4 (x86).

Since Xbox games are Windows games, Xbox One and Series X are Windows devices, the same game is able to run on PC, Xbox One, Lockhart and Series X but only Series X and PC will be able to run games in the optimal way.

In short, Lockhart won't hold Series X back.

I've heard the saying there's no smoke without fire but this is more a smouldering volcano you can see for miles.

It also remains to be seen if this will hold series x back. There's potentially a danger that it will. Sony was rumoured last year to be doing the same thing but axed it for that very reason (if that rumour was true).

I still hope whatever the Lockhart is, it’s not marketed as a “Series ?” But instead as a final revision of the One. I said this before but think 360 E, the final revision to that gen launched months before the baseline One came out. I would imagine an XBox One E would not necessarily run XSX exclusive games like Scorn.

Another thought/possibility: Lockhart is not a consumer product but the upgraded server rack for XCloud?

I think lockhart (xbox serie s) is a 1080p console for those who don't have a 4k tv the 4 teraflop would be on par with last 2 gen architecture 6 teraflop the xbox one x uses so basicly lokhart is an xbox one x without a junk cpu as well as been targeting 1080p instead so the one x probably has more ram and bandwith but those aren't needed for 1080p

@experTiger would it be able to play the current xbox one library in 4k like an Xbox one x?

@sixrings I'm not sure nothing is confirmed and my comment is just a speculation on what lockhart might be wish I hope so it makes the more sense releasing a 1080p for those who are still in 1080p and won't change their tv anytime soon imaging being a parent and you buy xbox series x for your son only to play fortnite and minecraft isn't this a waste of money

@Tharsman I think that it's a good idea and I find myself agreeing with you quite often. If Lockhart is not Series S but Xbox One E (or whatever) it will be better and makes sense because Microsoft said that Series X games will run on Xbox One for a while. When Lockhart starts running Series X games like Switch running Doom or Wolfenstein 2, nobody will complain because it was marketed as Xbox One. If it's marketed as Series S, people might wonder "Why doesn't it run games as well as Series X?" You know, people that don't read Purexbox.

@experTiger Yeah that's true, next-gen 4TFLOPs could equal to current-gen 6TFLOPS so basically Lockhart would be Xbox One X's successor with modern components. Instead of outputting 1080p, however, I think it's more likely to output 1080p or 4K with checker-boarding, what PS4 Pro does.

@zane547 That's why I like Tharsman's idea, market it as Xbox One E like the last Xbox 360 E which actually looked like the Xbox One.

@BlueOcean I think the xbox 360 E only existed as an offline console compared to xbox one originaly been always online as well as trying to lower the red ring of death chances in the new model

@experTiger

You can check it here.

https://xbox.fandom.com/wiki/Xbox_360_E#:~:text=The%20Xbox%20360%20E%20is%20a%20console%20developed,the%20it%27s%20successor%2C%20the%20Xbox%20One%20was%20released.

"...we're still don't know much about the system itself."

That doesn't read quite right to me.

@zane547
"Next gen Tflops vs Current Gen Tflops is spin. Average consumer sees just the number so the messaging. In my view at least would be wrong."

Go and watch this. It'll knock your socks off.

Digital Foundry - Can a 4TF Navi GPU Deliver a Next-Gen Console Experience?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=buUFvV9I-pA

Oh, and the average consumer doesn't see the numbers, but the price.